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Having speakers on the sides are an improvement no doubt. But knowing me and my OCD I prefer all bed layers to match so its same timbre when it pans all around the room. Some people don't care or may not notice it but that is just me. Just get some tall boxes or ladder and temporarily move the rears to the side and see how it sounds. I will tell you one thing though....going from 5.1 to 7.1 isn't that much noticeable as in going from 3.1 to 5.1. There are much more content coming from the side surrounds vs the rear surrounds in 7.1 setup.


Yeah. For me it looks the real improvement may be from just moving the speakers to the sides rather than just going form 5.1 to 7.1.


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Little video of Oblivion intro at -5mv. PSA's sounding incredible as always!
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Guys, I need some input please. I have a 5.2.4 set up now and am looking to go to a 7.2.4 set up. However I have some challenges for speaker placement relative to the seating and I am not sure if the MT-110SR off axis response would be wide enough for this application. I am attaching some pics of the right and left side of the room as well as the rear of the room. Once the rear seats are reclined they are very close to rear wall. My choices seem to be if the MT-110SR are the right speaker for this application:

1. Do nothing as the 5.2.4 sounds really good. The surrounds are in the back of the room and not side walls

2. Add another pair of MT-110SR for the side walls and leave the existing ones to be used as surround back

2. Move the PSA to the side walls and add SVS prime elevations for surround back duty. Cheapest option

So the question really is what kind of off-axis response does the 110SR have as my angle is likely 90-120 degrees and is the right speaker for this application or should I look at something like a SVS ultra with dual baffles pointed to the front and back rows?

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Bipole or Omnipolar speakers would work the best as the sound is diffuse and will have more area coverage.
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Bipole or Omnipolar speakers would work the best as the sound is diffuse and will have more area coverage.


Thanks Mike. That is what I learning too now. Tom seem to have suggested something similar. The SVS ultra surrounds sound like a good choice. I can try them out and see and perhaps compare to the PSA if I can dismount the the PSA from the rear which I don’t really want to.
@Mike Butny . I was worried about the timbre match and difference in sensitivity, but I think the proper dispersion is more important, the timbre probably not as important outside of the front three and the sensitivity is compensated for by trim levels.


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Thanks Mike. That is what I learning too now. Tom seem to have suggested something similar. The SVS ultra surrounds sound like a good choice. I can try them out and see and perhaps compare to the PSA if I can dismount the the PSA from the rear which I don’t really want to.
@Mike Butny . I was worried about the timbre match and difference in sensitivity, but I think the proper dispersion is more important, the timbre probably not as important outside of the front three and the sensitivity is compensated for by trim levels.


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I don't think you will notice the timbre match difference. You are correct the dispersion range is more important.
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I don't think you will notice the timbre match difference. You are correct the dispersion range is more important.


Thank you for the input Mike. Had been talking to Ed Mullen as well and he thinks in the situation I am with the placement and seating the ultra surrounds are a perfect solution.


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Sweet! What are you getting again?

I guess there’s some new PSA subwoofer type bass makers eclipsing the horizon. It’s been a little quiet here lately.

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2)mtm-210t's 1)mtm-210c 2)mtm-110's
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2)mtm-210t's 1)mtm-210c 2)mtm-110's

Nice, I thought it was a big package! You take the day off?
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LOL I wish! Went straight into my truck. Working until 5
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F'n awesome, are these your first PSA speakers or your first Horn tweeter speaker? I have 3 210T, 2 110's and they were my first Horn driven speaker and have been 100% satisfied.
These things are able to combine the quality of ribbon tweeter for music and the dome for movies into one amazing speaker.
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F'n awesome, are these your first PSA speakers or your first Horn tweeter speaker? I have 3 210T, 2 110's and they were my first Horn driven speaker and have been 100% satisfied.
These things are able to combine the quality of ribbon tweeter for music and the dome for movies into one amazing speaker.
First PSA and horn. Coming from Paradigm monitor set up. Going to be driving them with my Denon AVR3808CI for now. About to grab a Denon AVR-X4500 or x6500 soon.
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F'n awesome, are these your first PSA speakers or your first Horn tweeter speaker? I have 3 210T, 2 110's and they were my first Horn driven speaker and have been 100% satisfied.
These things are able to combine the quality of ribbon tweeter for music and the dome for movies into one amazing speaker.

First PSA and horn. Coming from Paradigm monitor set up. Going to be driving them with my Denon AVR3808CI for now. About to grab a Denon AVR-X4500 or x6500 soon.
Nice pickup. Be sure to post your initial thoughts and after they have been used some. I too have Paradigm monitor series (9se mk2) and been thing of going with same LCR as you did.
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First PSA and horn. Coming from Paradigm monitor set up. Going to be driving them with my Denon AVR3808CI for now. About to grab a Denon AVR-X4500 or x6500 soon.
I had the Paradigm Studio 100's v.5 a few years ago and the 210T's can blow those away when it comes to volume.
Also really love the finish on these, was getting tired of paying for a fancy wood finish that I didn't really need not to mention the reflection off then from the TV. These speakers are dead solid.
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Can any 110 owners share speaker stands they are using for a carpeted surface? I am moving my 110's to my basement and would love to see examples that existing 110 owners own but... feedback is always welcomed by anyone here.
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Tom has recommended these to me. I have yet to purchase as my S3611’s make great stands.

TransDeco TD24B Speaker Stands, 24", Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CQCIRTG..._wsf5CbWB37NB7


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[QUOTE=D.Rowe;58079824]Can any 110 owners share speaker stands they are using for a carpeted surface? I am moving my 110's to my basement and would love to see examples that existing 110 owners own but... feedback is always welcomed by anyone here.[/QUOT

If you have anybody that can do woodwork I would get them to make you a stand, my brother built a nice solid stand with a base the same size as the top and he put a molding about a 1/2 inch high around the top plat so the speaker sits right inside.
Makes it look like it was made to fit the speaker and for less than $100 materials.
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Can anyone tell me where the support screws for the MTM-210T’s are located? I found some felt in the boxes, no screws to attach supports.Thanks
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Damn this center is huge looking for a new tv stand or a way of raising my tv off the current one.
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Damn this center is huge looking for a new tv stand or a way of raising my tv off the current one.

Get any listening sessions in yet?

If your TV stand will sit on the center speaker, go for it, or you could add little risers under the feet.

It’s definitely beefy and does make even big TV’s appear smaller. I went from a Klipsch center to the 210C and was surprised how big it it up close before I got a PJ and 106” screen that helps put it in perspective. Now, it blends right in with the towers; but whenever I have new company over, I sometimes get asked what the big black box is on the console.
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Get any listening sessions in yet?

If your TV stand will sit on the center speaker, go for it, or you could add little risers under the feet.

It’s definitely beefy and does make even big TV’s appear smaller. I went from a Klipsch center to the 210C and was surprised how big it it up close before I got a PJ and 106” screen that helps put it in perspective. Now, it blends right in with the towers; but whenever I have new company over, I sometimes get asked what the big black box is on the console.
Been really busy, have only watched some tv so far. Still need to run Audyssey. I have a long weekend coming up, will do some extended listening. Love the build quality and looks. Clarity is the first impression I have
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I have an inquiry in to Tom, but I’m thought I’d see if anyone here had any thoughts: when moving my 210T’s, I accidentally stripped one of the screw holes in the base, so the feet don’t properly attach on that side. What would be the best fix for this?


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I have an inquiry in to Tom, but I’m thought I’d see if anyone here had any thoughts: when moving my 210T’s, I accidentally stripped one of the screw holes in the base, so the feet don’t properly attach on that side. What would be the best fix for this?


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I sent a reply on the 21st at 853pm.

But the gist of it was---I need to see a few pictures. If the internal t-nut has been damaged and you need to replace that it is going to be a PIA.

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I sent a reply on the 21st at 853pm.



But the gist of it was---I need to see a few pictures. If the internal t-nut has been damaged and you need to replace that it is going to be a PIA.



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I found your reply: in junk mail! Anyway, it’s the wood part where the screw screws in, leaving a hole too big for the screw to properly attach, if that’s helpful. I was thinking of using wood putty or maybe a wider screw.


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I found your reply: in junk mail! Anyway, it’s the wood part where the screw screws in, leaving a hole too big for the screw to properly attach, if that’s helpful. I was thinking of using wood putty or maybe a wider screw.


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There has to be a threaded wood insert under the base of speaker, probably four of them to mount the brackets with bolts or screws that go into the inserts, something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Z-Threaded-He...gateway&sr=8-5

Is it still there or did it come out of base, let me know what's going on, I may be able to help as I had a similar situation happen and I needed a wider insert with the same thread, it's more than likely a .250" threaded insert, Tom could verify.....
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I found your reply: in junk mail! Anyway, it’s the wood part where the screw screws in, leaving a hole too big for the screw to properly attach, if that’s helpful. I was thinking of using wood putty or maybe a wider screw.


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That’s what I was going to suggest, except I was going to say auto filler and pre-drill the hole.


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Originally Posted by healthnut View Post
I found your reply: in junk mail! Anyway, it’s the wood part where the screw screws in, leaving a hole too big for the screw to properly attach, if that’s helpful. I was thinking of using wood putty or maybe a wider screw.


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A very simple solutions is to use wood glue to glue a couple of broken toothpicks into the hole. Once dried, this should give the screw something to bite in to.

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