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PSA does indeed offer a return customer discount to be determined by Tom, best advice would be to email him at [email protected] and let him work out a deal for you................
Good to know! Thanks for confirming. Once Im ready to buy my surrounds Ill reach out to Tom. I just wasn't sure if it was the same discount for everyone or not. Unless he can give them to me for half price now, I gotta wait haha

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Hey Guys,

I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance.
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Hey Guys,

I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance.
BEQ isn’t going to help much with the V1811’s. Build a boss platform and then use BEQ to get the most out of it.

BEQ doesn’t do anything for chest slam, that is in the 50-80hz range. BEQ is for under 20hz - the V1811 doesn’t play much below that but a BOSS platform will.
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Hi guys, been awhile, life got in the way.

Anyhow I'm looking for suggestions for ceiling speakers.

Have a Denon 4300, currently running 7.2 setup (210t's, 210C, 110's surrounds) and 1800/1801 for the low end.

What ceiling speakers would compliment the PSA's?

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Might try taking a look at Revel, KEF, or JBL synthesis.
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Hi guys, been awhile, life got in the way.

Anyhow I'm looking for suggestions for ceiling speakers.

Have a Denon 4300, currently running 7.2 setup (210t's, 210C, 110's surrounds) and 1800/1801 for the low end.

What ceiling speakers would compliment the PSA's?
Are you looking for on or in ceiling Atmos speakers?

A lot of folks are using these in ceiling speakers, effective and inexpensive:
https://rslspeakers.com/c34e-ceiling-speaker/

If on ceiling the closest match to the PSAs are the DIYSG Volt 6 v2 if you have any skills even minimal these are the speakers I reco. https://www.diysoundgroup.com/volt-6-v2.html

Maybe someone else could reco a built speaker instead of DIY, good luck, I don't know if Tom is coming out with some small speakers built overseas.
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Are you looking for on or in ceiling Atmos speakers?

A lot of folks are using these in ceiling speakers, effective and inexpensive:
https://rslspeakers.com/c34e-ceiling-speaker/

If on ceiling the closest match to the PSAs are the DIYSG Volt 6 v2 if you have any skills even minimal these are the speakers I reco. https://www.diysoundgroup.com/volt-6-v2.html

Maybe someone else could reco a built speaker instead of DIY, good luck, I don't know if Tom is coming out with some small speakers built overseas.
Thanks for the response, I should have been clearer.

The system is in the basement, its a tile / drop ceiling, so I'd be looking to mount the speakers "in ceiling"

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Thanks for the response, I should have been clearer.

The system is in the basement, its a tile / drop ceiling, so I'd be looking to mount the speakers "in ceiling"
I'd go with the RSLs if I were you, Jim, @Hop inator uses them with his PSA 210Ts and SR110s, he could chime in and give you more insight as to how they blend with his PSAs..............

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Thanks for the response, I should have been clearer.



The system is in the basement, its a tile / drop ceiling, so I'd be looking to mount the speakers "in ceiling"


I am using SVS prime elevations for Atmos duty and they work just fine. I turn them up a couple of db post Audyssey. The angled baffle also helps direct sound. I did not want to make holes in the ceiling so mounted on ceiling


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I'd go with the RSLs if I were you, Jim, @Hop inator uses them with his PSA 210Ts and SR110s, he could chime in and give you more insight as to how they blend with his PSAs..............

Hopinator
Yep, I'm using the RSL C34E speakers and they work great. I do the same thing Imureh does with his Elevations and turn them up 3dB post Audyssey because the PSA are more efficient. But these speakers work wonderful and they visually disappear on the ceiling. The down side... they are in ceiling so that means putting holes in the ceiling.

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I'd go with the RSLs if I were you, Jim, @Hop inator uses them with his PSA 210Ts and SR110s, he could chime in and give you more insight as to how they blend with his PSAs..............

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Thanks, I'm sold, going to order the RSL's!

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Hey Guys,

I have dual Psa v1811s on a concrete floor. I get some tactile response at a high spl (near reference) but not nearly as much as I would like. I currently do not have BEQ. Do you think BEQ would be a game changer for tactile response or would it be better to get something like crowsons or the new BOSS design? I would like to try the BEQ first if you guys think that would make a big difference in tactile response and especially with chest slam. Otherwise, i’ll Look to get the crowsons or build a BOSS platform. Just want to know how much tactile difference i’ll get with BEQ first as maybe that will give me what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance.
If you don't get the TR you are looking for now with full-bandwidth movies (War of the Worlds, Incredible Hulk, Blade Runner 2049, etc), then BEQ is not going to help you one single bit. BEQ only restores filtered movies to the level of full-bandwidth movies, it doesn't increase your overall output. Also, as has been said, BEQ boosts mostly under 20hz where your subs are already dropping off, so......

You need a TR device (or two!). BOSS if your funds are limited and you have basic DIY skills...Crowson if you prefer plug-n-play.
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Thanks, I'm sold, going to order the RSL's!
RSL's are solid. There are probably " better " speakers but for the job assigned ( ceiling ) " better " speakers are going down that long road of diminishing returns.
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Thanks for the response, I should have been clearer.

The system is in the basement, its a tile / drop ceiling, so I'd be looking to mount the speakers "in ceiling"
I cut 4 pieces of birch plywood the exact size as my drop ceiling tiles, painted them and cut holes for the Volt 10 speakers. Dropped them in and they are amazing!

They can be used without any backing box (free air). Audyssey sets them to 60hz.

I used the 10’a vs the 8’s or 6’s because Eric of DIY Soundgroup said the others will struggle to get to 80hz when used open baffle.
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I cut 4 pieces of birch plywood the exact size as my drop ceiling tiles, painted them and cut holes for the Volt 10 speakers. Dropped them in and they are amazing!



They can be used without any backing box (free air). Audyssey sets them to 60hz.



I used the 10’a vs the 8’s or 6’s because Eric of DIY Soundgroup said the others will struggle to get to 80hz when used open baffle.


Are you saying you put just the speaker in the ply wood you cut? Like no box?


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Are you saying you put just the speaker in the ply wood you cut? Like no box?


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Correct. The Volt 10’s do not need a box behind them. They can run free air down to below 70hz.

Just mounted the 10’s in the plywood and ready to go. Just need to make sure you have enough space behind them - 5 inches if I remember correctly once mounted in the plywood.
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Correct. The Volt 10’s do not need a box behind them. They can run free air down to below 70hz.



Just mounted the 10’s in the plywood and ready to go. Just need to make sure you have enough space behind them - 5 inches if I remember correctly once mounted in the plywood.


That's awesome, think I may have to look into this, thanks


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I was looking at drop ceiling speakers that replace a whole 2x2 panel and then thought why not make my own. I bought a nicer plywood (Baltic birch) for the better finish and lighter weight.
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I was looking at drop ceiling speakers that replace a whole 2x2 panel and then thought why not make my own. I bought a nicer plywood (Baltic birch) for the better finish and lighter weight.
Ray, did you make the crossovers and did you mount them on the Baltic Birch, I know the XOs are designed for an enclosure (box) or at least a backing box, I didn't realize they could be used that way and still extend down to 60-70Hz, good job. You may have started a trend here my friend, so do you have four front baffles or were you able to purchase just the drivers and XO parts?
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Ray, did you make the crossovers and did you mount them on the Baltic Birch, I know the XOs are designed for an enclosure (box) or at least a backing box, I didn't realize they could be used that way and still extend down to 60-70Hz, good job. You may have started a trend here my friend, so do you have four front baffles or were you able to purchase just the drivers and XO parts?
Im surprised someone hasn’t done this before. I built the crossovers also. I talked with Eric and he said either the 10 or the 8 could be used this way. He said the 8 would barely make it down to 80hz this way but the 10 would extend easily. I did get the baffles but didn’t use them.

All 4 10’s are being used as atmos speakers and are mounted directly to the Baltic birch. I mounted the crossovers to the birch also.

Here is a picture with a volt 8 in the slanted box in the back (rear left surround).
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Im surprised someone hasn’t done this before. I built the crossovers also. I talked with Eric and he said either the 10 or the 8 could be used this way. He said the 8 would barely make it down to 80hz this way but the 10 would extend easily. I did get the baffles but didn’t use them.

All 4 10’s are being used as atmos speakers and are mounted directly to the Baltic birch. I mounted the crossovers to the birch also.

Here is a picture with a volt 8 in the slanted box in the back (rear left surround).
Like I said you may have just started a new trend, no flat packs or backing box, I'm really impressed and like the slant V8 box as well, great job my friend, I have a feeling more people will be doing this. This would be really easy to do at my place, I have 1" thick plaster board ceiling with 11" clearance behind it, may be a little dusty to do this but would save a lot of hassle building boxes and mounting to ceiling. I have four heavy duty ceiling mounts sitting in boxes in the work shop I bought for mounting the Volt 6s on ceiling, never did build the V6s, sold them. The V10s in ceiling is the way to go, thanks for the suggestion.
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Maybe I will start a thread about this in case it would help anyone else.

What forum do you think it would be best in?
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So, uhhh... any plans for Black Friday speaker sales??
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I wouldn't count on it. I think PSA has only done one or two sales in the past 8 years.
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Maybe I will start a thread about this in case it would help anyone else.

What forum do you think it would be best in?
Ray you may want to start with the Dolby Atmos thread:
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Thanks.

I did post this in the DIY speaker/sub forum. A few other people have done similar builds.
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Thanks.

I did post this in the DIY speaker/sub forum. A few other people have done similar builds.
Folks are always asking for reco's for different speakers in the Atmos thread and since you did this with the V10s this is a very viable option with minimal effort especially if they don't have to build (DIY) the speakers.
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Black Friday sales are a good indication of product mark ups. PSA works on a small margin and doesn't have much room to move. Also sales are more than enough to keep the PSA team very busy.


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