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Need advise on budget speakers for small home theather.

Hey guys,

I'm brand new here at the forum so would like to say hello first. My name is Kenny and i live in Belgium, Europe.
I've been bitten by the home entertainment virus recently and am in the process of learning and researching.
I'm building my first small home theather on a budget, in a small spare room of our house. Searching advise on the web got me ending up at this great forum time after time.

So the question i came here to ask is:
I've been looking into upgrading to some decent speakers. I allready got a klipsch sw 350 sub.
Going off of much online research and the local availability, i've narrowed my choice for some home cinema speakers to go along with it down to a set of klipsch quintet 5's or q acoustics 2020i's. They are both the same price for a 5.0 set, so i was wondering wich one would the experts recommend?

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Any chance you can listen to the
Speakers? I know a lot of folks like
Klipsch speakers...generally they can
Play pretty loud with a small amount of
Power. But...I find them to be very harsh
In the upper frequencies. If your room
Has carpet and heavy drapes with thick
Furniture that will help with the high frequencies.

Now if you have wood floors,lots of glass and
Minimal furniture they may be too bright for you.

Haven't heard of the other speakers you mentioned.
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Hey guys,

I'm brand new here at the forum so would like to say hello first. My name is Kenny and i live in Belgium, Europe.
I've been bitten by the home entertainment virus recently and am in the process of learning and researching.
I'm building my first small home theather on a budget, in a small spare room of our house. Searching advise on the web got me ending up at this great forum time after time.

So the question i came here to ask is:
I've been looking into upgrading to some decent speakers. I allready got a klipsch sw 350 sub.
Going off of much online research and the local availability, i've narrowed my choice for some home cinema speakers to go along with it down to a set of klipsch quintet 5's or q acoustics 2020i's. They are both the same price for a 5.0 set, so i was wondering wich one would the experts recommend?

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Q Acoustics by a wide margin.
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Yeah they seem to be getting some great reviews everywhere i look :-)

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But then again, so do the quintet's... :-)

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I guess the ideal situation would indeed be to hear the two playing in real life. But i'm affraid that's not an option. I'll have to buy them online.
The reviews for both sets are great too, so that doesn't tell me much either. That's why i decided to ask some insight here. But now i have one person telling me klipsch and one q acoustics... :-)

My home theather room is pretty small. So any speaker will have enough punch to fill it. Being small it doesn't have much furniture in it. But i could provide some extra acoustics dampening in the form of carpets and curtains.

Since both sets are about the same price, i'd rather buy the better of the two ofcourse :-)

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But now i have one person telling me klipsch and one q acoustics... :-)

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Just to be clear...I wasn't recommending the Klipsch speakers..
I would never own their offerings for the reason I
Described in my post!!

Just trying to give you an idea of how they "sound"
To me.
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Ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was very early in the morning when i read that post :-) i interpreted it as if you were saying they are really good but they are not for you.
So that's one loud and clear vote for the q acoustics then :-)

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Ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was very early in the morning when i read that post :-) i interpreted it as if you were saying they are really good but they are not for you.
So that's one loud and clear vote for the q acoustics then :-)

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Newegg has a deal today
F-20's for $99 each
CS1 for $99

Maybe it might help you, maybe it wont...either way good luck with your setup!
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Thanks, but i would like to order inside europe. Belgian customs would be more than happy to put an end to any good overseas deal :-)
Also i don't know the website nor the speakers :-) sorry, newb...

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The only advise I can give you is to go out and audition speakers in your price range. Only you know what is the right speaker for you and speakers will carry their own sound signatures. Buying in the blind (on a recommendation) is not a wise thing to do. Now you can narrow your search by reading professional reviews and input on sites such as AVS, but no one will know what kind of sound will make you happy or make you run for the hills.
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You may have a point there. I don't even know what kind of 'sounds' there are out there... I do like my sound punchy and dynamic though. I like to 'feel' the sound aswell as hear it.
The only problem is that there are no local shops that carry the brands i read the best things about. If i were to go to a local shop i would have the feeling i'm missing out.

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I think Klipsch gets a bad rap. I have several of their earlier models and never felt the high end was too harsh or overbearing. I've worked for both CBS AND Sony. At CBS I was responsible for setting up their A/B, QC and mastering rooms providing equalization on a substantial number of various player to beflat within .3db, so my ears are used to good sound. At Sony one of my responsibilities was to setup surround systems is their Media Test Center.

At home I have multiple systems including a Legacy Focus based system, B&W, Scandyna Minipod and a Klipsch Kg4, KV3 and RS-3 based system. My Legacy system costs around $10,000.00 and the Klipsch around $1300.00. Both are very nice soundings systems.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a Klipsch B2, C-2, RS-3 system. The B2 sound well balanced, image very well and fill my 12.5'x25' very well without straining. The Kg4 system sounds a little warmer and full bodied, but for the money the B2 system should suit your needs. I'm not sure where the Klipsch' get their high-end harshness reputation, unless it's from their more current lines. I've never experienced it. I really enjoy my Klipsch speakers and recommend them without them without reservation.

The B2s can be found used for about $125-$150/pr, the C-3 for around $100. I tried several surrounds with these including the RS-3s, a pair of Emotiva ERDs and even another pair of B2s. I found the RS-3s to be the best match, but the others do an adequate job. I don't think you'll find the system to be lacking. Buying used will same some money and you won't have to worry about break-in. If you don't like them you can always resell. They hold their value very well. I paid $530/pair for my Kg4s. I still see them on eBay going for $350+.
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Wow that's a detailed explanation :-) i think i'll be deciding in the next week.
No matter wich one i choose, it'll be a huge step up over my current set. Yamaha ns-p40 lol

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Wow that's a detailed explanation :-) i think i'll be deciding in the next week.
No matter wich one i choose, it'll be a huge step up over my current set. Yamaha ns-p40 lol

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Q Acoustics has a very neutral frequency response, which will not be as "impressive" in a ten minute listening session, but will ultimately be a much better experience when listening for hours (to music or to a movie).

Bottom line, the more neutral Q Acoustics speaker will appeal to many more people than the treble-strong Klipsch. If you can't listen to these speakers before buying, odds are much higher you will be happy with Q Acoustics.

That said, I always recommend that folks go out and listen to all the available speakers in their area. Once you have heard a wide variety of speakers, you will know what is appealing to you and what isn't. Consequently, you will end up making a better decision. Doing it via the internet, well, just be sure to budget for the return shipping!
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Look what showed up on my doorstep :-)

These things kick some serious butt! So tight, so precise. Makes my previous set sound like tin cans with a speaker in them :-)

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Look what showed up on my doorstep :-)

These things kick some serious butt! So tight, so precise. Makes my previous set sound like tin cans with a speaker in them :-)
Good choice - continue to enjoy the adventure.

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Did the first dial in with skyfall, king kong and transformers 2. They pack some punch for their size. The sound is much more detailed now too. I'm hearing things i never heard before :-)
My klipsch sw-350 blends in a lot better too.

I did set the front speakers to "large" though. You think that's ok? The bass from the front speakers in combination with sub seemed to blend better.
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I did set the front speakers to "large" though. You think that's ok? The bass from the front speakers in combination
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I would set them to small, and crossover at 80 hz - this would put less stress on the speakers

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I'll try out some more tomorow :-)

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Can't mount them in there definitive positions because the wallmounts are still on their way here. So i'll tweak some more when the speakers are in place.
What if i leave the fronts set to large, but set the crossover a little higher, say 100 or so. Wouldn't that spare the fronts a little more too?

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Look what showed up on my doorstep :-)

These things kick some serious butt! So tight, so precise. Makes my previous set sound like tin cans with a speaker in them :-)

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Ain't they purdy! Congrats!

Now that you have them, spend some time experimenting with speaker and sub positioning (before final mounting), and the receiver settings, until you are happy with the result. Much can be gained by spending time "tuning" the system.

As to crossover, 60 and 80 are most likely the better solution. Try both. 100 will lead to sub localization effects.


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Yeah i've noticed that :-) since being bitten by the home cinema virus i started reading up some. I've been playing with the settings in the receiver and the sound that comes out has really transformed.
Here's a side by side pic with my previous speakers :-P i was kind of shocked when i unpacked the q acoustics center speaker. What a giant :-)



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