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Need Help: Monitor Audio Silver 10 or Gold GX200 or GX300

So going to upgrade from my BX5 speakers. I am considering the Monitor Audio Silver 10 or perhaps the gold series, the GX200 or GX300. This will be an entirely a 2.1 setup. I am wondering if there is such a huge difference between the GX and RX series and if it justifies the price. I plan to hear them, but I really want to get other people's opinions, especially those who own Monitor Audio.

Power will not be an issue as I will be powering them using a McIntosh.

Also I have no interest in considering other speakers. I want to stay with Monitor Audio, and I have no plan to make my own or have a different company make me custom speakers. So please leave that particular caveat alone.

Anyone who had both or has silver or gold series, especially the Silver 10 or Gold GX200 or GX300 can I get your opinions?

I will be using these for mostly music and movies occasionally. Thanks for the input in advance.

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I heard RX8 and GX200 side by side not long ago, and let's say my conclusion is that the GX is well worth the price difference, the whole spectrum is even more precise and balanced than the RX which is already very good

Your McIntosh deserves the GX

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You might get more responses in the Monitor Audio Owner's thread.

There is no "RX10." It's called the Silver 10. The RX series is old and has been replaced by the "Silver" line. Silver 1, Silver 2, Silver 6, Silver 8, Silver 10.

If you have a subwoofer, there is no need to get the Silver 10 over the Silver 8. So it should be the Silver 8, or even the Silver 1, that you consider from that range.

In the Gold range, I think the same could be said: With a sub, there's not much advantage of the GX300 over the GX200.

With the money you save by considering the GX200 or the Silver 8 instead of the GX300 or the Silver 10, you could get a second subwoofer or upgrade the one you have, if appropriate.

The Gold range sounds better by most accounts, and certainly has nicer looks, but whether that's worth the extra cost is something only you can decide.
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So going to upgrade from my BX5 speakers. I am considering the Monitor Audio RX10 or perhaps the gold series, the GX200 or GX300. This will be an entirely a 2.1 setup. I am wondering if there is such a huge difference between the GX and RX series and if it justifies the price. I plan to hear them, but I really want to get other people's opinions, especially those who own Monitor Audio.

Power will not be an issue as I will be powering them using a McIntosh.

Also I have no interest in considering other speakers. I want to stay with Monitor Audio, and I have no plan to make my own or have a different company make me custom speakers. So please leave that particular caveat alone.

Anyone who had both or has silver or gold series, especially the RX10 or GX200 or GX300 can I get your opinions?

I will be using these for mostly music and movies occasionally. Thanks for the input in advance.
I have a 2 chnl setup & a Denon AVR 1913 7.1 that I have used The silver9is in. I find them a bit to close to bright IMHO, I have a neutral amp & preamp, the AVR adjust itself & is much more enjoyable with the 9i's because of the Audyssey. I found them very Improved with either of the 3 tube buffer/amps I have. I don't know the sonic signature of the McI, but the reviews say monitor are Very Revealing/ slightly bright. Mine are on a mart. to bright for me.
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You might get more responses in the Monitor Audio Owner's thread.

There is no "RX10." It's called the Silver 10. The RX series is old and has been replaced by the "Silver" line. Silver 1, Silver 2, Silver 6, Silver 8, Silver 10.

If you have a subwoofer, there is no need to get the Silver 10 over the Silver 8. So it should be the Silver 8, or even the Silver 1, that you consider from that range.

In the Gold range, I think the same could be said: With a sub, there's not much advantage of the GX300 over the GX200.

With the money you save by considering the GX200 or the Silver 8 instead of the GX300 or the Silver 10, you could get a second subwoofer or upgrade the one you have, if appropriate.

The Gold range sounds better by most accounts, and certainly has nicer looks, but whether that's worth the extra cost is something only you can decide.
Thank you. Fixed.

I actually like the fact that the silver 10 and gx 300 are taller (about 43in compared to 37). I am also using a HSU sub VF1- Mark 1, so it is an older sub but works quite well, but it does take up a bit of space, so another option is ditch the sub and go for the bigger cabinets.

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I have a 2 chnl setup & a Denon AVR 1913 7.1 that I have used The silver9is in. I find them a bit to close to bright IMHO, I have a neutral amp & preamp, the AVR adjust itself & is much more enjoyable with the 9i's because of the Audyssey. I found them very Improved with either of the 3 tube buffer/amps I have. I don't know the sonic signature of the McI, but the reviews say monitor are Very Revealing/ slightly bright. Mine are on a mart. to bright for me.
McIntosh tends to be a little warm. I'm using separates. The BX I had is a little dark. I heard about the RX series being a little bright, don't know if that was changed with the new Silver 10.

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I heard RX8 and GX200 side by side not long ago, and let's say my conclusion is that the GX is well worth the price difference, the whole spectrum is even more precise and balanced than the RX which is already very good

Your McIntosh deserves the GX

GX 200 should make it into my room in 2015, hopefully ...
How was the sound of the GX? I heard that the Silver series (former RX) is a little bright. How does the GX compare in that regard?

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Thank you. Fixed.

I actually like the fact that the silver 10 and gx 300 are taller (about 43in compared to 37). I am also using a HSU sub VF1- Mark 1, so it is an older sub but works quite well, but it does take up a bit of space, so another option is ditch the sub and go for the bigger cabinets.
FWIW, I agree 100% with beaveav's logic. A well integrated sub (or two) will do much more for your overall SQ than going from GX200 > GX300 or Silver 8 > Silver 10. (I personally wouldn't go below the Silver 8 because you loose the dedicated 4" mid.)

I recommend not ditching the sub. It's a pretty rare room where the best positions for mains for optimum soundstage and imaging are also the best positions for reasonably smooth lower bass response. Running subs gives you the opportunity for the best of both worlds. If space is an issue, look to compact sealed subs, like the Rythmik E15HP.
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I have a 2 chnl setup & a Denon AVR 1913 7.1that I have used The silver9is in. I find them a bit to close to bright IMHO, Ihave a neutral amp & preamp, the AVR adjust itself & is much moreenjoyable with the 9i's because of the Audyssey. I found them very Improvedwith either of the 3 tube buffer/amps I have. I don't know the sonic signatureof the McI, but the reviews say monitor are Very Revealing/ slightly bright.Mine are on a mart. to bright for me.
I would hope with the level of engineering effort that goes into McIntosh products, they'd have no "sonic signature" at all.
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I would hope with the level of engineering effort that goes into McIntosh products, they'd have no "sonic signature" at all.
In the past 2yrs I have had Crown, emotiva, parasound, Denon,Music Hall, Dunlop Clarke, & Cambridge Audio.
While I cannot Comment on McIntosh specifically, I'm Very sure it has a Sonic signature!
Power supplies, Capacitors, electrolytics, & a great deal of what goes into Amplifiers makes the Signature.
Now let's Really get Complicated & Talk about Audyssey????? "Sonic Accuracy"?????
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McIntosh tends to be a little warm. I'm using separates. The BX I had is a little dark. I heard about the RX series being a little bright, don't know if that was changed with the new Silver 10.
Have you tried using a fan on the McIntosh?

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Have you tried using a fan on the McIntosh?
I tried using a fanboy on it.

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Okay so it looks like it will be between the GX200 and the GX300.

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Useful review. Thank you.

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Smile Significant or bull crap??

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Wondering what you might think of this Comment from a specialist.
Most of us are so busy trying to pay our bills & take care of our family we cannot indulge in this type of detail.
for those of us retired after having worked for 30+yrs we are well, lucky!


Hi Gary,

I have looked through some internal pictures of the Denon X3000 and I see a number of improvements that be had. The power supply input IEC can be upgraded to the furutech iec, replace the ac power wiring inside with thick cryo treated copper wire, hard soldered everywhere. There would be some power supply parts such as rectifiers and capacitors that could be improved. The inner/outter chassis shell casing can be EMI/RFI shielded with this special shielding tape I am using now on all mods. certain parts inside can be C37 lacquer coated (vibration/resonance). There is most likely a clock that could be replaced. A number of bybee music rails could be installed. signal opamps, capacitors improvements. Possible transformer coupled stage depending on usage. replace all binding posts with eichmann cablepods. (the whole unit will need to be stripped apart as it is all sandwiched together like most AV processors and integrated.) There is probably much more as
well. I can design a mod package around how you would use the unit, such as specific inputs and outputs.
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Wondering what you might think of this Comment from a specialist.
Most of us are so busy trying to pay our bills & take care of our family we cannot indulge in this type of detail.
for those of us retired after having worked for 30+yrs we are well, lucky!


Hi Gary,

I have looked through some internal pictures of the Denon X3000 and I see a number of improvements that be had. The power supply input IEC can be upgraded to the furutech iec, replace the ac power wiring inside with thick cryo treated copper wire, hard soldered everywhere. There would be some power supply parts such as rectifiers and capacitors that could be improved. The inner/outter chassis shell casing can be EMI/RFI shielded with this special shielding tape I am using now on all mods. certain parts inside can be C37 lacquer coated (vibration/resonance). There is most likely a clock that could be replaced. A number of bybee music rails could be installed. signal opamps, capacitors improvements. Possible transformer coupled stage depending on usage. replace all binding posts with eichmann cablepods. (the whole unit will need to be stripped apart as it is all sandwiched together like most AV processors and integrated.) There is probably much more as
well. I can design a mod package around how you would use the unit, such as specific inputs and outputs.
Well that's a mighty impressive cocktail of snake oil he's proposing there! If you enjoy snake oil cocktails, go for it.

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I was a previous MA Bronze owner, and was keen to upgrade to the MA Silver or Gold.

For me, the Kef R Series was a little better to me overall. In Australia it was also a fair bit cheaper than the GX200 setup I was considering.
Well worth a listen, same with the new B&W CM Series.
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Go with GX300 ( or the NEW GOLD 300 ) and you will never think of upgrade latter.
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Well that's a mighty impressive cocktail of snake oil he's proposing there! If you enjoy snake oil cocktails, go for it.
This is a response from a well known modder with 20+ yrs of doing successful mods. & a well known Company.
But I totally understand your response, there are 3 modders out there that have similar sales info.
I really want to give him, or the others, a try but just cannot spend 900+ on a "chance" I came across the info searching for an oppo bd instead of modding my new X-3000. brings to mind the high-end car tuners & the associated issues.


Would Love to hear from others as to the general consensus? These are Very expensive Mods taking normal gear from
say 500+ your unit on up to 3000+.
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This is a response from a well known modder with 20+ yrs of doing successful mods. & a well known Company.
But I totally understand your response, there are 3 modders out there that have similar sales info.
I really want to give him, or the others, a try but just cannot spend 900+ on a "chance" I came across the info searching for an oppo bd instead of modding my new X-3000. brings to mind the high-end car tuners & the associated issues.


Would Love to hear from others as to the general consensus? These are Very expensive Mods taking normal gear from
say 500+ your unit on up to 3000+.
If you want opinions from other posters, you should probably start a new thread in the section for receivers and amplifiers. This thread is about Monitor Audio GX speakers and probably isn't being viewed by very many people.

As for my opinion, as I said, it's snake oil. None of those changes are going to result in audible or worthwhile improvements. And even if they did, how would you know? You send your gear in, wait a month or more to get it back, and then what? Hey, it sounds great now. Compared to what? In the time it takes to wait for it to come back, there's no way you remember what it was like before the mods were done. That's what they're banking on: that people expect it to sound better, and therefore it does to them. But to know for sure you'd have to compare it side-by-side, level-matched, with one that hasn't been modded. And I bet they'd sound the same.

The mods they suggested are all fixing problems that don't exist.

If you want a better system, spend more money on speakers and room acoustics. If you specifically feel your amp/receiver is insufficient, buy a more powerful amp.

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I was a previous MA Bronze owner, and was keen to upgrade to the MA Silver or Gold.

For me, the Kef R Series was a little better to me overall. In Australia it was also a fair bit cheaper than the GX200 setup I was considering.
Well worth a listen, same with the new B&W CM Series.
I've listened to the KEF R500/R700 in a dealer's shop before and I was quite impressed. Couldn't tell if it was better than MA Golds as I wasn't able to compare side by side.

Actually, I went to the MA shop planning to get a Silver 5.1 set as I think it sounded well and the finish seemed higher than similar price level of other brands (e.g. KEF Q, B&W 600, etc). But I actually ended up with the Gold GX after the audition
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