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Cool Just picked up the Klipsch R-28F's.....review in progress.....

So far they are awesome, very dynamic, solid bass performance, Stunning clarity and very smooth, much smoother than my old klipsch f3's i had back in the day. So far I'm very impressed with these for $450. The build quality also seems to be a step up over the old f3's i had and I love the new brushed black polymer veneer cabinet. One thing I have noticed about these is they seem to be alot less bright than my old f3's were, with a much more neutral sound balance. Got about 5 hours on them so. Great speakers. To anyone out there on the fence about these, don't hesitate they are a absolute steal at this price. I will have a full review soon.......

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They look like a rebadged Icon to me. The center channel looks IDENTICAL to the KC-25. Heck, the new one is called the R-25C or something like that isn't it? Klipsch said there are new design elements in this 'reference' line (lol), but you have to wonder what is just marketing talk. I can't find pictures of the drivers or x-over of each, but to me it looks like they just took the Icon and made the drivers copper colored and put on a different veneer. Marketing genius as it's making people go nuts over a product they couldn't sell in the first place most likely. I could be wrong and these could be somewhat different, but it makes sense from a business standpoint to call them 'reference' like their higher line and make the cones the same color. If the Icon's are cheaper, that might be the real deal

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They look like a rebadged Icon to me. The center channel looks IDENTICAL to the KC-25. Heck, the new one is called the R-25C or something like that isn't it? Klipsch said there are new design elements in this 'reference' line (lol), but you have to wonder what is just marketing talk. I can't find pictures of the drivers or x-over of each, but to me it looks like they just took the Icon and made the drivers copper colored and put on a different veneer. Marketing genius as it's making people go nuts over a product they couldn't sell in the first place most likely. I could be wrong and these could be somewhat different, but it makes sense from a business standpoint to call them 'reference' like their higher line and make the cones the same color. If the Icon's are cheaper, that might be the real deal
They do look alot like he icons, unfortunately, I have not heard the icon's so I can't make a direct comparison. However I can say for sure they are a big step up over my older Klipsch f3's and they sound flat out awesome, i can't wait to put these up against the R55ti's when they get shipped to me in a couple weeks.........
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Picked up R-28F's too with R15M book shelf

I also picked up R-28F's with R15M bookshelfs. Waiting for Sub 10-SW and Center R-25C.
So far loving the towers! Building my first home theater!
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I also picked up R-28F's with R15M bookshelfs. Waiting for Sub 10-SW and Center R-25C.
So far loving the towers! Building my first home theater!
Good to hear man.....yeah i wished the would of put the whole set on sale lol
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I have a pair of mint RF3 ii I paid $150.00 for both from a coworker. Do you guys think the R28's from BestBuy would be a worthy upgrade? They are half price now which is tempting! THX
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I have a pair of mint RF3 ii I paid $150.00 for both from a coworker. Do you guys think the R28's from BestBuy would be a worthy upgrade? They are half price now which is tempting! THX

Yes as a owner of the F3 & i heard the R28 it's a step up but in my opinion not a giant step....But for the price it's a great deal.
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I have a pair of mint RF3 ii I paid $150.00 for both from a coworker. Do you guys think the R28's from BestBuy would be a worthy upgrade? They are half price now which is tempting! THX
Yes they would be. They are going to be alot less bright and perform better across the board. At this price i would pull the trigger, the worst thing that could happen is you don't like them which then you could return them and get a full refund. However if you do buy them, you won't be returning them. Not only have i been very impressed with them every one that has stopped for a listen has been also.
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Yea, the brightness has always bugged me with my older ears. I'll be driving them with my Yamaha RX-V673 receiver. I'm using a Klipsch RC-42ii Reference Center with a pair of Fluance Bi-Polar surrounds. I'm in a medium sized bedroom aka, Man-Cave! I think you guys helped me make up my mind, after all I can return them within 45 days if need be, not likely tho! Thx again, Bill.


Update: I picked up a pair of these bad boys today! So far, they sound lovely without the harshness I was hearing from my 10year old RF3 ii's (still great speakers). Not sure if there is a break in period so I'm playing lite rock/pop thru them at low-medium volume. I think I will name them Cheech & Chong!

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So far they are awesome, very dynamic, solid bass performance, Stunning clarity and very smooth, much smoother than my old klipsch f3's i had back in the day. So far I'm very impressed with these for $450. The build quality also seems to be a step up over the old f3's i had and I love the new brushed black polymer veneer cabinet. One thing I have noticed about these is they seem to be alot less bright than my old f3's were, with a much more neutral sound balance. Got about 5 hours on them so. Great speakers. To anyone out there on the fence about these, don't hesitate they are a absolute steal at this price. I will have a full review soon.......
Are your old speakers the synergy f-3's or the reference rf-3II's? Do you think the new R-25C center that goes with the R-28F's is big enough? Would I be able to use the RC-62II center with the R-28F's? Not sure about the voice or timbre matching.
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Yea, the brightness has always bugged me with my older ears. I'll be driving them with my Yamaha RX-V673 receiver. I'm using a Klipsch RC-42ii Reference Center with a pair of Fluance Bi-Polar surrounds. I'm in a medium sized bedroom aka, Man-Cave! I think you guys helped me make up my mind, after all I can return them within 45 days if need be, not likely tho! Thx again, Bill.


Update: I picked up a pair of these bad boys today! So far, they sound lovely without the harshness I was hearing from my 10year old RF3 ii's (still great speakers). Not sure if there is a break in period so I'm playing lite rock/pop thru them at low-medium volume. I think I will name them Cheech & Chong!
How do the R-28F's sound with the RC-42ii center you have? I was wondering if the voice or timbre is matched with these? I'm thinking about getting the RC-62ii with those.
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Are your old speakers the synergy f-3's or the reference rf-3II's? Do you think the new R-25C center that goes with the R-28F's is big enough? Would I be able to use the RC-62II center with the R-28F's? Not sure about the voice or timbre matching.
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They were the synergy f3's, I don't own the R-25C but i have heard it and i do think it does a good job of blending with the towers. As far as the RC-62II is concerned, I'm not sure if it is a good match....you would have to buy the 28's and test for your self........
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Yea, the brightness has always bugged me with my older ears. I'll be driving them with my Yamaha RX-V673 receiver. I'm using a Klipsch RC-42ii Reference Center with a pair of Fluance Bi-Polar surrounds. I'm in a medium sized bedroom aka, Man-Cave! I think you guys helped me make up my mind, after all I can return them within 45 days if need be, not likely tho! Thx again, Bill.


Update: I picked up a pair of these bad boys today! So far, they sound lovely without the harshness I was hearing from my 10year old RF3 ii's (still great speakers). Not sure if there is a break in period so I'm playing lite rock/pop thru them at low-medium volume. I think I will name them Cheech & Chong!
Glad to hear man. Yeah that was the big thing that struck me was how much more neutral and less bright these were compared to the older F3/RF3's. These speakers at half price are an amazing value..........
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A buddy that's stays out of town and own's the RF-82's stopped by and said this yesterday......... "The R-28F's sounds smoother, less bright and more pleasant to my ears than my RF-82 II's"
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We'll never know until someone gets some measurements...

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We'll never know until someone gets some measurements...
Or until more people actually start listening to the speaker...................
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Or until more people actually start listening to the speaker...................
Agree 100%!!! Everybody is so quick to say how the RF-82II's are so much better and these are junk without listening to them. Guess they don't want to believe that speakers costing alot less than what they paid sound just as good. It's almost like the whole "Look what I got" thing is more important. I'm going to put the 500 bucks I saved on the towers toward an SVS PB-2000!!
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A buddy that's stays out of town and own's the RF-82's stopped by and said this yesterday......... "The R-28F's sounds smoother, less bright and more pleasant to my ears than my RF-82 II's"


Well i will know more by this weekend because i just upgraded to the RF-82 II(order them Monday) & I owned a pair of the R-28 but took them back. Because i thought they wasn't that big of a step up from my F30....

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Well i will know more by this weekend because i just upgraded to the RF-82 II(order them Monday) & I owned a pair of the R-28 but took them back. Because i thought they wasn't that big of a step up from my F30....
Should the R-28F's be a big step up from the F30's? Let's face it, all these speakers are very similar, not too much of a price difference unless they are on sale, and made by the same company and in China. I'll be shocked if you say the RF-82 II's are a big step up from the R-28F's.
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Should the R-28F's be a big step up from the F30's? Let's face it, all these speakers are very similar, not too much of a price difference unless they are on sale, and made by the same company and in China. I'll be shocked if you say the RF-82 II's are a big step up from the R-28F's.
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You guys aren't as fun as some other forums....but all joking aside I am actually a klipsch owner and I've rebuilt/copied several heritage series models from the mid to late 70's including but not limited to the klipschorns. That being said, I do give a thumbs up recommendation for the new r-28f and the the r-12sw subwoofer. I actually got a chance to compare the r-28f/r-12sw combo side by side with a set of 76' la scalas and a pair of 90' klipschorns in a very small playhouse auditorium in highlands,nc. All pairs were bi amped with qsc amplifiers for the horns and crown amps for the woofers. I was actually surprised at how little the difference was, sound stage wise, between the new reference combo and the ol heritage sluggers. Even the chamber quarter that plays there every week could tell only subtle differences. I think that is a lot to be said about them, for what it's worth.
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Should the R-28F's be a big step up from the F30's? Let's face it, all these speakers are very similar, not too much of a price difference unless they are on sale, and made by the same company and in China. I'll be shocked if you say the RF-82 II's are a big step up from the R-28F's.

No the R-28F shouldn't be a big step up because they are Klipsch synergy speakers just made to look like Reference speakers..So i took them back.....But when you talking about Klipsch Reference vs Synergy it not even close.... Not all speakers are made the same just visit the Klipsch speakers tread.....When it comes to speakers you buy what you pay for.

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i had klipsche reference RF3II's and they were like glass stabbing you in the eardrum...
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i had klipsche reference RF3II's and they were like glass stabbing you in the eardrum...

I had RF-3s/RC-3 as a front soundstage and they sounded nice and then used the towers as side surrounds with RF-7s/RC-7 up front and it became sublime.

That said, I understand that a few folks don't seem to like their sound, but of course many do so it definitely is a preference thing coupled with environmental factors (i.e., room and settings).
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i can't wait to put these up against the R55ti's when they get shipped to me in a couple weeks.........
That's going to be a BIG difference in sound. One has a soundstage that's in your face, a lot of top and bottom end (the dreaded boom and sizzle) and likely less(er) midrange performance. The r55's are very neutral, wide soundstage also, don't dig deep on the low end, but do it cleanly instead of bloated and exaggerated. Midrange is spot on. If you like a slightly hotter treble and you have decent DSP in your AVR or stand-alone (MultEQ XT/XT32, etc) then run the r55's with it on. Unless your room is treated or an echo chamber, you might get a little boost on the top end

Different strokes for different folks. One might be better for what you prefer to listen to and that's okay! That's a great thing about this hobby. There's usually something for everyone Take your time in auditioning though

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That's going to be a BIG difference in sound. One has a soundstage that's in your face, a lot of top and bottom end (the dreaded boom and sizzle) and likely less(er) midrange performance. The r55's are very neutral, wide soundstage also, don't dig deep on the low end, but do it cleanly instead of bloated and exaggerated. Midrange is spot on. If you like a slightly hotter treble and you have decent DSP in your AVR or stand-alone (MultEQ XT/XT32, etc) then run the r55's with it on. Unless your room is treated or an echo chamber, you might get a little boost on the top end

Different strokes for different folks. One might be better for what you prefer to listen to and that's okay! That's a great thing about this hobby. There's usually something for everyone Take your time in auditioning though
Yes i am aware, I own the r5bi bookshelfs so i know it's a big sound difference. Thanks for the EQ advice, I appreciate it. I look forward to the comparison.
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I'm not even going to claim one way or the other the sound difference between the R-28F and the RF-82 II's. If you think about it from a simple marketing standpoint, Klipsch wouldn't allow the rebranded reference line to be discounted half off if they believed they sounded the same if not better than the reference II line. That would basically kill their market base for the II line and ruin their profits. Somehow I don't think Klipsch is that dumb.


The reference II line has nicer crossovers, titanium instead of aluminum tweeters, and they are typically heavier which is nearly always a good sign when comparing apples to apples. The woofers are also cerametallic instead of the inferior IMG composite.


I don't want to make any assumptions, but I'm willing to guess that the people who truly believe the R-28F is superior to the RF-82 II aren't listening in ideal conditions, i.e. volume, signal quality, room acoustics. YMMV, just my .02
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