Originally Posted by NWCgrad
I hope my 53's are on the way.
Where did you order from?
Originally Posted by carp
Ok, so I swapped out the center and right channel and left the stock CD in the left channel for now.
Gritty. That's how I would describe the sound of the stock CD compared to the larger one. It reminds me of when we compared the brand new Noesis from JTR at the first park GTG vs my then Elemental Designs Cinema 12. It's not as drastic of a difference as that was but it's obvious for sure. When you walk up to one speaker and put your head by the horn (low volume at the main LP, not trying to go deaf here) I could keep my head there all day on the new CD, but on the stock CD my gut instinct is to move because it's a bit harsh and gravelly in comparison.
In fact that's what this CD reminds me of, the BMS CD that the higher end JTR's use.
Anyone on the fence shouldn't hesitate to upgrade. It's so easy to hear the difference. I'll add my thanks to the list of people that are grateful to Rob for doing all the work on this, thanks man!
jlpowell, other than that it's tough for me to compare to the JTR's - audio memory being what it is. I won't know right away anyway, I'll see if over time I get addicted to listening to music like I did with the 212's and 215's.
this is amazing! Funny how subjective opinions can excite me more than all of Robs work. I do give thanks where it is due (I imagine Rob is tired of hearing it over and over!) and our enjoyment may not have happened without his work so it's the foundation! I am grateful because it's now multiples who have changed to the 2453H-SL and commented on EXACTLY what I have been looking for in a speaker my whole "Toilet acoustics journey." That is a sweeter upper end CD (all the qualities that come from a compression driver) that simply doesn't ask for me to grab the remote when peaks hit and has a drawing quality for music. I came to value your subjective opinions over last 3-4 years dreaming of that sweet 212 Noesis BMS 4593 CD. I had went to Bsoko2's place in Washington in which he had LCR JTR Quintuplets (five 8" driver with middle being a coaxial setup with Eminence woofer and BMS CD), then he had four Triple8's in surround duty and quad Submersives with a full GIK acoustics treated room. I don't know what BMS CD
used in those old Quintuplets but it captivated me as we watched Oblivion at -5 sitting 8.5ft from LCR! The best way to describe it was polar opposite of harsh! Never a single moment of "eeekness!" And it had a quality that drew me in! I then listened to you describe my experience as your own as you owned your 212's. I was love drunk after JTR's since that moment! The next day we traveled to Kris Deerings place in Seattle in which he had a 5 channel Legacy Focus SE setup with Submersives and Mark Seaton there to calibrate the system. It was pretty nice yes but there where harsh moments and comparing to Bsoko2's JTR system it was night and day for me subjectively I emphasize!
All this to say your audio adjectives literally feel stolen from my mind! 'Gritty' & 'Gravelly' may be number one term I would use for the 2432 ONLY WHEN THOSE HARSH MOMENTS COME UPON my ears or near horn which I have done. Otherwise they sound good, not trashing on them!
This made my day
"In fact that's what this CD reminds me of, the BMS CD that the higher end JTR's use."
And I will be paying close attention to this
"I'll see if over time I get addicted to listening to music like I did with the 212's and 215's"
And the massive bonus over had I got JTR's (besides 215's and 210RT's) is the to die for mid bass! So if this CD grabs me I may have the closest to best speaker for me for 1400 ish! Another thing I am interested is bass comparison of the 4722 vs 215RT. I know who wins extension but I mean the general articulation and 'hugging' of notes
I watched the accountant tonight with my fridges left off and 4722's running Large. Wife never knew subs were off, they dominate and IMO a "NON BASS HEAD" building a theater could get away without subs. Crazies like us no way but dad looking for "general good sound and bass" a stock 4722 could suffice.
Yes to others who read I am well aware setup, placement and organic EQ aka room treatments can really take a speaker to another level like the stock CD as well as upgraded. I place tremendous value on that and am aware in my imperfect living room setup I will not get optimal performance out of them. Hmmm, as I type I see me and a stereo setup outside with the new CD's