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Sources! You start listening to the same music and movies because they sound so good. Throw the movie 9 in, to me one of the best recorded movies as fidelity is concerned. I never pay attention to surround effects except sounds are all around.
Yea, I have 9

I actually have really tried to branch out when it comes to sound. I have fallen in love with this hobby, I actually enjoy the experience and not just researching and building the experience like some do. As a result I have acquired some diverse music. I even bought a Kenny G CD. Go ahead anyone and make fun of me, I don't care at all. It sounds amazing!
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Yea, I have 9

I actually have really tried to branch out when it comes to sound. I have fallen in love with this hobby, I actually enjoy the experience and not just researching and building the experience like some do. As a result I have acquired some diverse music. I even bought a Kenny G CD. Go ahead anyone and make fun of me, I don't care at all. It sounds amazing!
How can we make fun of that? That would be like pointing and laughing as you drive by a fatal accident.

(j/k)

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How can we make fun of that? That would be like pointing and laughing as you drive by a fatal accident.

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Doc, I men seriously, try it on those M2's! Get past the macho, "I'm a man that can't listen to that girly guy!" I know, I was the football/basketball jock mans man. Appreciate the sound of an instrument making music! There actually is a cool stint where Stevie Wonder listens to Kenny G play a rift on his flute and plays it back note for note on his harmonica. Gives me chills thinking about that kind of musical talent! Some other fun stuff is bass guitar solos, Hans Zimmer, whatever! Sure certain types don't like certain things and that I understand. I have an older friend who loves Joni Mitchell, and CSN (Crosby, Stills & Nash). I really can't stand much of either of them. A guitar solo but thats about it. Now when he plays some Roger Waters stuff we can find common ground.
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^^^Haha! Hey, trust me, I've got no hangups. My wife walked in the room last night and I was listening to Rhianna . She just shook her head in apparent disappointment and walked out of the room. I think my man card is officially revoked

Edit: And I'm no Rhianna fan, but man she sounds good on the M2's
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Edit: And I'm no Rhianna fan, but man she sounds good on the M2's
How about playing it on your 708i?
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^^^Haha! Hey, trust me, I've got no hangups. My wife walked in the room last night and I was listening to Rhianna . She just shook her head in apparent disappointment and walked out of the room. I think my man card is officially revoked

Edit: And I'm no Rhianna fan, but man she sounds good on the M2's
I'll step up and admit it...Taylor Swift "Style" sounds incredible on the M2's.
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How about playing it on your 708i?
Haha! I'll admit, I'm one lazy SOB. I have to actually do stuff to listen to them! Run wires, cables, buy mounts, figure out where I'm putting them, etc., etc.. I'm exhausted just thinking about it

On top of that, I really should be buying the Crown 8|300 to run them active and be able to use the JBL presets, but I want to sell my LG FP10000Q first and nobody's biting in the classifieds. The Crown I can put in my rack and use short little XLR's, to use my LG I need to run 50 ft. XLR's and that goes back to the whole lazy thing I started with.

So yeah, I want to hear them too, I just wish someone else could do all that crap for me .
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I'll step up and admit it...Taylor Swift "Style" sounds incredible on the M2's.
Well, it's another late night in front of the M2's and thanks for the suggestion, so I think I'll cue that up right now and have a listen
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^^^Haha! Hey, trust me, I've got no hangups. My wife walked in the room last night and I was listening to Rhianna . She just shook her head in apparent disappointment and walked out of the room. I think my man card is officially revoked

Edit: And I'm no Rhianna fan, but man she sounds good on the M2's
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iirc @Wrager swapped in the 2450 in his active rig (same horn as 4722) with good results.
zilch, r.i.p., experimented with and posted results for both these horns. so with all that taken together, i don't see any reason why it wouldn't work...well.

Right, John! It was precisely the work that Zilch did that lead me to the 2450-SL. I can always upgrade to Be later.

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Sure you can't fit something like JBL AM7215. They use same CD as 4722 with 1 15" woofer (same or very similar to one in 4722). These are more expensive though. JBL recommended these to me as side surrounds since I couldn't fit 4722's there either.
I have been espousing the virtues of the AM 6215/95 for a couple of years. I have one I use outdoors. The 7215 is just newer, much like the 4622 versus 4722.

I just bought two of the little brothers, AC 18/26 (https://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttach...AC18_26.v1.pdf) to use as surrounds in my columns. They are amazing for an 8" based speaker.
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Well, it's another late night in front of the M2's and thanks for the suggestion, so I think I'll cue that up right now and have a listen
Most newer recordings that a big name, (think pop, country, etc) sound excellent on excellent speakers because I think it's mostly true today that the set up's used to mix on are better across the industry- and more standardized.

This was not always the case in the past, so you got a varied level of mix quality- where some mixes where good, some not so good. Buying a speaker based on poor mixes and poorly made songs seems erroneous to me. But I think some do that, or make judgments without realizing this.

That is why if you really want to use a subjective opinion to make a choice you should use your own opinion, not someone else. And you should demo and audition the speakers over a longer period of time like a 30 day in home trial, and run a large variety of music and media over them in that time. You'll form a more accurate opinion than if you listened quickly, or only with a few select tracks. The exception being, if you use the same tracks all the time, test speakers all the time, and are very familiar with both good speakers and how the tracks should sound. A lot of pro's can do that easily.
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Yea, I have 9

I actually have really tried to branch out when it comes to sound. I have fallen in love with this hobby, I actually enjoy the experience and not just researching and building the experience like some do. As a result I have acquired some diverse music. I even bought a Kenny G CD. Go ahead anyone and make fun of me, I don't care at all. It sounds amazing!
I felt that way quite a few times when running through all of dgage's BD's he sent me to peruse through and find the best tracks. Some classical, some random weird world music type stuff. My wife thought someone else was in the house one night when she came home and heard Adele coming from the HT. She knows I can't STAND her music but I suffered through it nonetheless... haha. It still sounded incredible.
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What do you guys think about this for a DIY rack solution. I love the look of a MA rack but I won't pay $1,500 or more all said and done for a glorified shelf. I have been searching and found this one. I thought I could use a bare bones rack like the Amazon link and secure it in between the framing where rack will go. Mount components and make my faceplates like he did. I just need to figure out how much air space i need behind gear, what kind of cooling solutions behind it all. Basically I will be making a knotch/cubby in the framing to host rack space. Sides and back will be heavily treated for keeping in with my attempt to soundproof the room as much as possible. I can go up to a few feet behind if necessary. I thought racks were pretty standardized as far as width being the same. That other than "normal" were for special applications. I guess I need the width of my Crown DSi's and go from there?

I found this for DSi mounting info. Looks like that rack could work!
Dimensions: EIA Standard 19-in. rack mount
width (EIA RS-310-B), 3.5 in. (8.9 cm) high and
12.25 in. (31.11 cm) deep behind mounting
surface. DSi 6000 is 16.2 in. (41.15 cm) deep.

here is amazon link. I was thinking use this and then follow his faceplate method.
http://www.amazon.com/ER-1-19-Inch-H...t+rack+71+inch

I found original site for product, looks like they make an 84" one.
http://www.videomount.com/pages/Equi...ories/Racks/14

This is thiers too, this is the exactly what I want. Not as much as MA, hmm...
http://www.videomount.com/pages/Equi...s/EREN-42E/336
Dang I found it for good percentage off!
https://www.elvessupply.com/Video-Mo...FVSSfgod-kAP5w
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Here I "fixed" your prescription....yep I was bored at work on a Friday afternoon.
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Here I "fixed" your prescription....yep I was bored at work on a Friday afternoon.
9 out of 10 doctors agree, this will cure your audio disease.
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What do you guys think about this for a DIY rack solution. I love the look of a MA rack but I won't pay $1,500 or more all said and done for a glorified shelf. I have been searching and found this one. I thought I could use a bare bones rack like the Amazon link and secure it in between the framing where rack will go. Mount components and make my faceplates like he did. I just need to figure out how much air space i need behind gear, what kind of cooling solutions behind it all. Basically I will be making a knotch/cubby in the framing to host rack space. Sides and back will be heavily treated for keeping in with my attempt to soundproof the room as much as possible. I can go up to a few feet behind if necessary. I thought racks were pretty standardized as far as width being the same. That other than "normal" were for special applications. I guess I need the width of my Crown DSi's and go from there?

I found this for DSi mounting info. Looks like that rack could work!
Dimensions: EIA Standard 19-in. rack mount
width (EIA RS-310-B), 3.5 in. (8.9 cm) high and
12.25 in. (31.11 cm) deep behind mounting
surface. DSi 6000 is 16.2 in. (41.15 cm) deep.

here is amazon link. I was thinking use this and then follow his faceplate method.
http://www.amazon.com/ER-1-19-Inch-H...t+rack+71+inch

I found original site for product, looks like they make an 84" one.
http://www.videomount.com/pages/Equi...ories/Racks/14

This is thiers too, this is the exactly what I want. Not as much as MA, hmm...
http://www.videomount.com/pages/Equi...s/EREN-42E/336
Dang I found it for good percentage off!
https://www.elvessupply.com/Video-Mo...FVSSfgod-kAP5w

$1500?!?!?! Dude, This is what I have, and it's a TON of space. Your amps dont need shelves, or anything else to mount into the rack, so get you a quad set $100 worth of shelves for xbox/cable box etc and you are done, probably in under $500 total and you have a REAL rack that you know is dependable.

http://www.bswusa.com/Equipment-Rack...-29-P3598.aspx

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$1500?!?!?! Dude, This is what I have, and it's a TON of space. Your amps dont need shelves, or anything else to mount into the rack, so get you a quad set $100 worth of shelves for xbox/cable box etc and you are done, probably in under $500 total and you have a REAL rack that you know is dependable.

http://www.bswusa.com/Equipment-Rack...-29-P3598.aspx
Yea...$1500 bucks...I did my room including the screen for just a tad over that. Minus gear, carpet and seats.

The rack is just this stuff here. If it's in a closet and only the equipment is visible it doesn't really matter what kind of rack or shelving you have. Especially if you faceplate it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00

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Do not forget about Craigslist! Just looked at the Eugene CL and saw this:

https://eugene.craigslist.org/for/5169375473.html

Posted a while ago but who knows?

I live in the sticks and was able to find a 43ru Slim 5 with all the trimmings (wheels, side panels, tons of faceplates/blanks) for $225. Also scored a shorter MA wheeled rack with a huge powerstrip and 150wpc PA amp installed for $40.
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Do not forget about Craigslist! Just looked at the Eugene CL and saw this:

https://eugene.craigslist.org/for/5169375473.html

Posted a while ago but who knows?

I live in the sticks and was able to find a 43ru Slim 5 with all the trimmings (wheels, side panels, tons of faceplates/blanks) for $225. Also scored a shorter MA wheeled rack with a huge powerstrip and 150wpc PA amp installed for $40.
WTF!!!! I was on CL for an hr last night! Can anyone confirm what the standard is as far as rack width? My Crown DSi's have mounting brackets built into amp chassis and it said 19inch. So if that rack is 19 inch wide I will attack that damn thing. Can't believe it didn't show up when I looked!

That would be like the biggest steal ever! Even has shelves and sliding drawers! I called and texted, we shall see...

I found this one 2hrs north
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ele/5203821364.html

My buddy works for a big time IT company as facility maintenance manager for all three buildings. I took 10 days vacation year before last to help setup Bitcoin server room. Was pretty intense at a 5 Million setup just for starters. The racks in the data center were sick! I am gonna reach out to him also. I know they moved the data center so he may have some racks sitting around.

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On a side note but related to JBL. I'm heading to the Dolby Labs theater in NYC on Monday for a special movie viewing. It's outfitted with all JBL speakers but I'm not sure which models yet. I'm 95% going for the show and 5% to learn more about the JBL setup.
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@Aaron Smith ...I need to seriously thank you so much! I reached out and he still has the rack. I told him I felt terrible getting it for $55 so I said at least take $100! He said well they scratched the side pretty bad when moving it so how about $75. He moved on from a multimedia company he had. He had two of them to begin with, sold one. He paid $900 new for each rack! So tomm I am meeting his wife at storage to pick it up. Now, pending, have a Middle Atlantic rack! It was seriously meant to be as they have been moving and work crazy hours. They have had over two dozen calls over the 28 days it has been posted and didn't respond to one. They said I was really lucky that they took my calls, simply based on the fact they are super busy.

My apologies for any off topic-ness here. I tend to do that But it served a great purpose in me landing a $900 MA rack for $75 so I thank you for any tolerance

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Glad to help a brother out! Superb deal...hope all goes well picking it up tomorrow. I was searching for another Slim 5 myself yesterday when I was in Spokane.
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Glad to help a brother out! Superb deal...hope all goes well picking it up tomorrow. I was searching for another Slim 5 myself yesterday when I was in Spokane.
Thanks bro! I don't believe it was no accident this came about Was crazy that she said she hasn't had time to respond to a single call, that I called literally at the only time in the last 28 days she has answered a random number. One step closer to the final product, system!

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Since we are talking about racks, I'm pretty proud of my deal I found at a garage sale last weekend for $30 Without the gear of course...I supplied that...

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Also, quick question, and I'm not trying to start a war with amp vs amp, but what would you guys recommend that I use for my amp setup for my 4722's? I have a QSC RMX 850 that I was planning on bridging to the center channel, and then using either a Crown CTs 600 to the front left and right, or a Crown XLS 1500 for front left and right. The CTs is used and a little older but works fine, and the XLS 1500 is literally still new in the box, I haven't even opened it yet. Ideally I'd like to be running a trio of DSi's but does anyone have any opinions on the CTs vs. the XLS?
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XTi is like a DSi except speakon and xlr.

That would be second choice to DSi

You can load the preset into them for the 4722 I think.

I believe the xls won't do that.
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