Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U
That's weird... I read a bunch of official/professional reviews on the 3300W and Aventage 1060 and both were praised for SQ in movies and music. However, the 3300W had an easier to use menu interface and better room correction.
Is the Marantz alot better than the Denon? because the XT32 version is a lot pricier than 3300W as it is a 9.2ch model.
Plasma' Denon/Marantz is one company, Design/parts overlap creep at the AVR product level is getting greater every year. Two other biggies just combined, I can't remember if it was Sony and Pioneer, or Yamaha and Pioneer, or even Onkyo, but it was some combination of two of them...point is, expect even more of the same "make it cheap as possible" design/parts overlap. Hopefully, one of them will get back to more solidly built audio based AVRs. I agree Denon has an advantage with customers wanting Audyssey HT. I agree it is a better equalization system than YPAO, MCACC or Onkyo's proprietary system. I fell for it, I admit it, I bought a Denon for the Audyssey HT and like many, when I finally got around to using all the features, shortly after the return period, I learned the hard way that I was sold a new AVR with features that didn't work and now I'm stuck with another very expensive Asian antique that is broken.
We all have to be careful of Professional reviews based on the reviewer being presented information by the manufacturer and/or the reviewers being brought into a manufacturer set-up system/presentation for a couple of hours and then goes home and writes a glowing review carefully supported by spec's and graphs that were handed to them.....which are most of the reviews pushed in our faces when we do a computer search. Then, the savy customer does an internet search... "problems/complaints with product XXXX" and quickly learns that these products with glowing reviews have a 30-40 percent return/failure rate within a year. Just look at all the brand new owner reviews claiming their new toy is the absolute best product available based on their extensive research and 5 days of ownership....Then compare what owners have to say after having the product for a year. Many times you get a different picture real fast.
Carminepesce, Please tell us more about your Anti-mode 8033Sii.
Generally speaking the Yamaha and Sony AVRs are built like tanks and there are better outboard ways to equalize and still use your Sony or Yamaha
Personally, I don't like how AVR designers are in a war to computerize AVRs. I don't need/want 11 channels, wireless connectivity and Atmos (which I predict based on listening will go the way of 3D, as most of time it just muddies up the soundstage and the entire God given psyco-acoustic perception). Don't want/need decoding for Spotify and/or 6 other streaming services...or even streaming capability for that matter....we can already do all of that on our phones or tablets so why not use those connected to our AVR's instead of putting second rate cards/boards and additional signal distorters in the AVRs? Same goes for all the video processing being put into AVRs....90% of it is redundant...My Oppo, heck even my projector does a better job already. I will go so far to estimate that more than 95% of AVR owners pass their video signals straight through their AVR, yet how much additional cost are we all bearing for electronics that will never be used?
....point is I'm looking for a "no chit" 5.1 or 7.1 AV processor with straight through video, USB to attach a notebook with an outboard equalization program and music libarary, and I can blue tooth instructions to that notebook more reliably than to any AVR I've seen. Hook that up to a solid stand alone 5 or 7 channel amp. Slighly more expensive, but should be more reliable and I won't loose my entire HT for weeks/months because of some unused cheap and needless part once again putting my AVR out of commission. I had to have "Audyssey HT"and Denon was the cheapest way to get it... and OOPS, I did it again....shame on me. Boy it sounded good for 50 of the 59 days I had it.
LOL...but I really like my SVS speakers....and a real expert picks up the phone at SVS every time I've called. The Primes are a really good HT content speaker system and a much better than expected for the price music speaker. Rant over, have a nice day.