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jrhamilt 09-01-2015 08:53 AM

7.1 Speakers on a $1,000 Budget
 
Any recommendation?

I currently have a Pioneer Elite VSX-30 (Sorry, can't post a link to the specs yet... Let me get a few more posts under my belt!)

In addition to the 7.1 speakers, it also allows a pair of Front Height Speakers or Front Wide Speakers, and while I would *love* for there to be room in the budget to pursue one of these directions, it's not a requirement. (By the way, which extra configuration would be best?)

The room itself is in a large open basement, and will be against 2 walls - the wall behind the TV, and the wall to the viewers right of the TV. The wife has historically preferred satellite speakers, and given the "no wall" on one side of the viewing area, it's likely that Satellites will be preferred - at least for the surround sound. However, if there's a great solution otherwise, I'm all ears!

Thanks so much for your time! I'm excited to get started with a new community as I setup my new theater!

eljaycanuck 09-01-2015 08:58 AM

IMO, half of that $1K budget should be put toward a sub (something like the SVS PB-1000). I would recommend against trying to squeeze seven speakers into the remaining $500 budget, and in favour of:
- buying a pair of good-quality bookshelf speakers right now (and running you AVR in "phantom center" mode); and
- adding a CC speaker, surrounds and rear surrounds when money permits.

Ted Sheckler 09-01-2015 09:10 AM

Andrew Jones pioneer towers and center plus a $500 sub. Surrounds and Atmos later.

jrhamilt 09-01-2015 09:17 AM

Hmmmm. I'm uncertain that additional funds will ever be forthcoming... This isn't a "$1000 available now" problem, this is a "I want to spend about $1,000 on my speakers" long term...

What kind of money would the full solution you're suggesting take to implement?

Is there any hope for a reasonable 7.1 solution in the $1k budget range?

Ted Sheckler 09-01-2015 09:20 AM

6 BS22's plus C22 and whatever $500 sub.

jrhamilt 09-01-2015 09:59 AM

So, by my note, here's the recommendation (priced via Amazon):

Sub - any ~$500
FL - FS52 - $130
CC - C22 - $100
FR - FS52 - $130
SL - BS22 - $130
SR - BS22 - $130
SBL - BS22 - $130
SBR - BS22 - $130

Front Height / Front Wide - 2 x BS22 - $260

All in, $1,380 for 7.1, and $1,640 when including the FH or FW speakers.

What's the "magic" with the $500 subwoofer? Is there something about the Andrew Jones subwoofer that's insufficient?

For close to the original budget of $1,000, then, at $1,120, the 5.1 system can be accomplished. And that, no mount or brackets are included (about $30 / BS22).

Hmmmmmm.

eljaycanuck 09-01-2015 10:01 AM

Pioneer SW-8MK2
- 8" driver
- 50W (continuous) amp
- 38-150Hz +/-?dB

SVS PB-1000
- 10" driver
- 300W (RMS / continuous) amp
- 19-270Hz +/-3dB

The SVS will have considerably more output and will extend considerably deeper than the Pioneer.

If you really don't want to spend much on a sub, consider getting a well-rated Dayton SUB-1200 (or two) from parts-express.com for $148, shipped.

Scrappydue 09-01-2015 10:02 AM

for that budget, used is about your only option if you want to get some speakers that are "long term"

Jawaburger 09-01-2015 10:18 AM

Cambridge Audio makes the Minx speakers that are small single driver cubes and they run ~$95 each, so you could pretty easily get a 5.1 system for $1,000 if you choose a reasonable sub. It would cost just a little more for the 7 channel system and/or to add your height channels, etc.

jrhamilt 09-01-2015 10:56 AM

While I love the SB22's in terms of design and reviews, I'm afraid the Minx are going to be the requirement from the boss. Will have to see what she thinks tonight.

Scrappydue 09-01-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jrhamilt (Post 36945154)
While I love the SB22's in terms of design and reviews, I'm afraid the Minx are going to be the requirement from the boss. Will have to see what she thinks tonight.

large open basement and tiny cube speakers is going to a big fat waste of money. id advise you tell your wife that if you are going to spend 1000 bucks you dont want it to be a waste.

how about the svs prime satellite system? you can do an in home trial with it for 45 days and if its underwhelming you can return it for free! then you would at least know if small speakers are gonna do it for you.

Sunken 09-01-2015 11:17 AM

You could alway do what i did... Shop for deals...


If you are patient, you can get some decent hardware for cheap... Here is what i paid for my setup


2x Klipsch Synergy F2 tower 140$ ( Craiglist )
4x Klipsch Synergy F1 Towers 250$ ( Craiglist )
1x Klipsch C2 center channel 80$ ( Craiglist )
2x Klipsch S-20 140$ ( Ebay )
1x Polk Audio PSW10 Sub 60$ ( BestBuy OpenBox )
Pioneer VSX-921 200$ ( BestBuy OpenBox )
Around 300 Ft 12 awg wire 60$ ( Out of business bar )


Grand Total 930$


If you are patient, you can take your time and shop around. It took me a little over a year to get everything but my wallet doesnt regret it and my ears are extremelly happy with the results. The money i saved on my speakers by being patient will allow me to buy better equipement when i build my dedicated room.

jrhamilt 09-01-2015 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunken (Post 36945874)
You could alway do what i did... Shop for deals...


If you are patient, you can get some decent hardware for cheap... Here is what i paid for my setup


2x Klipsch Synergy F2 tower 140$ ( Craiglist )
4x Klipsch Synergy F1 Towers 250$ ( Craiglist )
1x Klipsch C2 center channel 80$ ( Craiglist )
2x Klipsch S-20 140$ ( Ebay )
1x Polk Audio PSW10 Sub 60$ ( BestBuy OpenBox )
Pioneer VSX-921 200$ ( BestBuy OpenBox )
Around 300 Ft 12 awg wire 60$ ( Out of business bar )


Grand Total 930$


If you are patient, you can take your time and shop around. It took me a little over a year to get everything but my wallet doesnt regret it and my ears are extremelly happy with the results. The money i saved on my speakers by being patient will allow me to buy better equipement when i build my dedicated room.

So you might do something like this and then add more speakers for 7.1 later? Does this seem like a reasonable deal for the speakers?
denver.craigslist.org/for/5142074499.html

Kini62 09-01-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhamilt (Post 36946402)
So you might do something like this and then add more speakers for 7.1 later? Does this seem like a reasonable deal for the speakers?
denver.craigslist.org/for/5142074499.html

YES!

Might not even need a sub in the short term. Long term you will want a good sub or two since you'll be missing out on everything below about 35hz.


I'd go with a sub before trying to go to 7 channels and/or atmos.

MEGATURON 09-01-2015 01:51 PM

Svs pb1000 and just wait for infinities go on sale on amazon the primus 163 goes to as lowas 59.99 ea they are great for the price

Scrappydue 09-01-2015 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhamilt (Post 36946402)
So you might do something like this and then add more speakers for 7.1 later? Does this seem like a reasonable deal for the speakers?
denver.craigslist.org/for/5142074499.html

Please please be ready when you go. I think this would be a great package for you however its on the high side on asking price. Have sales on ebay available on your phone if you can. You can look up each speaker and hit sold listings. Towers seem to sell around 3-400 depending on price center 150 and surrounds 150-200. So an offer of 750 if everything is mint would be respectable. If he wants more I'd walk unless you think they are the best speakers you ever heard or something. Otherwise deals out there like this are a dime a dozen.

Djoel 09-01-2015 02:15 PM

I would go to all the audio forums and see if I can get a nice deal, I'm sure it can be done with a little due diligence you can find a sweet system.

Also I would definitely do the SVS in home 45 day trial as suggested above, and try to get the lady of the house excite about the process, perhaps you'll both agree on raising the budget a little higher.
I understand you're you would like to remain to that budget, but if this is a one time buy I would raise it up to at least 500 dollars.

Good luck

Djoel

Djoel 09-01-2015 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhamilt (Post 36946402)
So you might do something like this and then add more speakers for 7.1 later? Does this seem like a reasonable deal for the speakers?
denver.craigslist.org/for/5142074499.html


Oh, I would go after those for sure, tell him you still need cash for a sub, and start him 725 or so. Listen to them and make sure all the drivers are in working condition with out issues.

Not sure about the series, but I would do my home work and try to wiggle a lower price on that.
If he's on Craiglist he's trying to capitalize on someone not knowing much about them, just my two cents.


Djoel

Sunken 09-02-2015 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhamilt (Post 36946402)
So you might do something like this and then add more speakers for 7.1 later? Does this seem like a reasonable deal for the speakers?
denver.craigslist.org/for/5142074499.html

If you ever choose to buy those, make sure you listen to them extremely carefully with more than 1 track and more than 2 minutes. The klipsch horns are not for everyone. You love them or you hate them. If I am correct, those towers have 8inch woofers. The 6.5 inch on my towers is plenty for my needs, so I can’t imagine 8 inch lol. I only use my sub on movie and gaming to give you an idea.


I think 1000$ for those is a little bit, if it was ME, I would try get them for 800$ so I could buy a second hand 12/15 inch sub with the last 200$ and someday buy the rest to complete my 7.1. Another thing to consider… Those thing are HUGE !!


Also, inspect them carefully for anything broken or something that doesn’t look right. Not everyone is selling good stuff on craiglist and if you are not satisfied of what you see or hear, don’t hesitate to walk away. Also, if you see the guy rushing you to buy and wants you to leave as fast as possible, thats not a good sign. If at the end they interrest you, do not be afraid to negociate them, because second hand speakers can be a PITA to sell. ( anyway where I am located )


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