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Well, Still haven't completely figured anything out yet. Haha. Bought a 55" TV for my bedroom and will be buying the new Vizio 45" 5.1 soundbar system for that.

I have been in contact with Dave at Ascend and I may have talked myself into Sierra 2's and Horizon for fronts (for now), than eventually buying towers and rotating the 2's to the rear for surround.

Accessories4less has a couple good Denon and Integra reacievers for pretty cheap. Will probably pick up a Denon x4200w within a week or two than figure out exactly what speakers I want.

I will be testing out the revel and paradigm speakers this Friday. Still looking at Klipsch (although I hear they are very loud and in your face). SVS ultra book shelves have made the list over the svs prime. I have upped my budget (obviously). I do not want to second guess my decision, If I have the funding I might as well use it.

I have figured out the wall that my TV will be going on, the TV can only be right at 60" wide, which ends up being between 65 and 70" TV's. Looking at the Vizio P series TV's but thats a bit down the road yet.
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Definitive Technologies is blowing out some of their old models at 1/2 price.

$600 gets you a pair of their BP-8020ST Floor-standing bipolar SuperTower loudspeakers with built-in powered subwoofer, $800 gets you a pair of their 8040's.

Main issue with those is that each speaker needs to be near an electrical wall outlet for the powered subwoofer.

Their center channels start at $350.

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@gajCA The towers with the subs on the side will not work for me, and I am looking for larger mid drivers for a tower.

Here is a list of possible contenders and their respected prices (according to google)

Ascend (prices on website)
-Sierra 2 $1500/pair
-Horizon Center $1000

-Sierra 1 $750/pair
-Sierra 1 center $438

-Sierra Tower $1999/pair
-Sierra 1 NRT Center $600

(Lets say $2600 is top of the budget and I have a couple options under $1200 for a budget setup)

Paradigm (prices from google shopping)
-Monitor 11 $1398/pair
-Center 3 $525

-Mini Monitor $600/Pair
-Center 3 $525


Revel (Price from google shopping, c205 price may be off)
-M105 $1200/Pair
-C205 $655 (quoted $999 from local business)


SVS (Price from website)
-Ultra Bookshelf $1000/Pair
-Ultra Center $700


Klipsch (price from amazon)
-RP 280f $1000
-RP 450C $519



If my Budget is under $1500 would Klipsch, Ascend Sierra 1, or Paradigm Be better HT system
If my Budget is under 2k would it be the Sierra 1's, Revel, SCS, Klipsch or Paradigm Monitor?
If my Budget is the full $2600 would sierra towers with sierra 1 NRT or Sierra 2's with horizon be better?

This 3.0 system will be my system for months before I buy a sub.
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@gajCA The towers with the subs on the side will not work for me, and I am looking for larger mid drivers for a tower.

Here is a list of possible contenders and their respected prices (according to google)

Ascend (prices on website)
-Sierra 2 $1500/pair
-Horizon Center $1000

-Sierra 1 $750/pair
-Sierra 1 center $438

-Sierra Tower $1999/pair
-Sierra 1 NRT Center $600

(Lets say $2600 is top of the budget and I have a couple options under $1200 for a budget setup)

Paradigm (prices from google shopping)
-Monitor 11 $1398/pair
-Center 3 $525

-Mini Monitor $600/Pair
-Center 3 $525


Revel (Price from google shopping, c205 price may be off)
-M105 $1200/Pair
-C205 $655 (quoted $999 from local business)


SVS (Price from website)
-Ultra Bookshelf $1000/Pair
-Ultra Center $700


Klipsch (price from amazon)
-RP 280f $1000
-RP 450C $519



If my Budget is under $1500 would Klipsch, Ascend Sierra 1, or Paradigm Be better HT system
If my Budget is under 2k would it be the Sierra 1's, Revel, SCS, Klipsch or Paradigm Monitor?
If my Budget is the full $2600 would sierra towers with sierra 1 NRT or Sierra 2's with horizon be better?

This 3.0 system will be my system for months before I buy a sub.
Look up sound distributors or acoustic sond design and call them for pricing on the Klipsch speakers, you may be surprised what they can do for you. You have to call though. I highly recommend the new premiere line for HT, Klipsch is made for movies.
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Look up sound distributors or acoustic sond design and call them for pricing on the Klipsch speakers, you may be surprised what they can do for you. You have to call though. I highly recommend the new premiere line for HT, Klipsch is made for movies.
I will give them a call in a couple days. Is there anyone in particular I need to chat with at either place?
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I will give them a call in a couple days. Is there anyone in particular I need to chat with at either place?
I am not from US so I dont know, ask over on the https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...read-1649.html They will send you in the right direction. Some of them have even picked up rf7ii and rc64ii(flagship models and better than current gen premiere) for around your budget

(2)RF-83 (1)RC-64ii (2)RF-82ii (2)RC-62ii
(2)Exodus audio tempest-x 15" subs in 200l sealed enclosures
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Eric from Sound Distributors. Authorized internet dealer. Not sure about who to contact at Acoustic Sound Design but both come highly recommended by my fellow US Klipsch buddies

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There are so many fine brands available with your budget it really behooves you to drive around and listen to as many as possible.

Brands not mentioned include PSB, Focal, Martin Logan, B&W, Cambridge Audio, Usher, Wharfedale, etc.

Where are you located?

Have you read these current threads yet for some direction?

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...nergy-kef.html

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...-opinions.html

Last time I went driving around to replace my front 3 speakers I bought Usher speakers, but you might prefer something else.

I was looking for musical speakers for lack of a better term and used Dire Straits' "Brothers In Arms" as my test disc.

With the center they work great for Home Theater as well, though they "only" play to about 104db or so at 10 feet, (plenty loud for me but other speakers can play louder if that's your thing).

Had I used another disc perhaps I would have chosen something else, (ie. Electronica, Heavy Metal, Classical, Acoustic, Jazz etc.)

I'm very happy with those speakers but the chances of anyone being able to audition them live is very slim as their distribution here sucks in terms of brick and mortar stores.

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Ascend (prices on website)
-Sierra 2 $1500/pair
-Horizon Center $1000

-Sierra 1 $750/pair
-Sierra 1 center $438

-Sierra Tower $1999/pair
-Sierra 1 NRT Center $600
I think you'll be more than happy with the 3 x Sierra 1s configuration (although the 3 x 340SE is still the best bang for the buck by far)...and if you wanted a little extra insurance, I'd substitute the Horizon Center for the Sierra 1 center...the center speaker does 70-80% of HT output after all, so if I were a 95% HT user that's where I'd want to invest my money (and in the sub).

BTW, if you pick the Horizon center with the Sierra 2s, bear in mind that the $1K price is for the default version with the soft-dome tweeter...to get a Horizon with the matching RAAL tweeter it'll be an extra $350.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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There are so many fine brands available with your budget it really behooves you to drive around and listen to as many as possible.

Brands not mentioned include PSB, Focal, Martin Logan, B&W, Cambridge Audio, Usher, Wharfedale, etc.

Where are you located?

Have you read these current threads yet for some direction?

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...nergy-kef.html

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...-opinions.html

Last time I went driving around to replace my front 3 speakers I bought Usher speakers, but you might prefer something else.

I was looking for musical speakers for lack of a better term and used Dire Straits' "Brothers In Arms" as my test disc.

With the center they work great for Home Theater as well, though they "only" play to about 104db or so at 10 feet, (plenty loud for me but other speakers can play louder if that's your thing).

Had I used another disc perhaps I would have chosen something else, (ie. Electronica, Heavy Metal, Classical, Acoustic, Jazz etc.)

I'm very happy with those speakers but the chances of anyone being able to audition them live is very slim as their distribution here sucks in terms of brick and mortar stores.
I have looked at those threads. The 2.0 thread may lead me from a sound bar to a 2.0 system in my bedroom. Only issue is trying to find a space for a smaller reciever (wall is close to end of the bed)

I have two shops near me. One sells JBL and Revel and the other sells Klipsch and Paradigm and possibly martin logan. I am very limited in that aspect. I will audition a few different systems that I possibly can but there are systems out there I cannot listen to and noone near me has a system that I am aware of.

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I think you'll be more than happy with the 3 x Sierra 1s configuration (although the 3 x 340SE is still the best bang for the buck by far)...and if you wanted a little extra insurance, I'd substitute the Horizon Center for the Sierra 1 center...the center speaker does 70-80% of HT output after all, so if I were a 95% HT user that's where I'd want to invest my money (and in the sub).

BTW, if you pick the Horizon center with the Sierra 2s, bear in mind that the $1K price is for the default version with the soft-dome tweeter...to get a Horizon with the matching RAAL tweeter it'll be an extra $350.
I just realized yesterday the Horizon was NRT and not RAAL. I felt like an idiot. I could save up for another month and go Sierra Towers and Horizon. Or 3 Sierra 1 NRT across the front. With ascend there are may options.
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I will get better dimensions when I can. The taped up part is the difference from 75 to 65" tv. Not worth the 2k right now. I'll just pull the TV away from the wall a foot and I wouldn't even notice haha.
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I will get better dimensions when I can. The taped up part is the difference from 75 to 65" tv. Not worth the 2k right now. I'll just pull the TV away from the wall a foot and I wouldn't even notice haha.
That's $2k more you can spend on speakers...
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I will get better dimensions when I can. The taped up part is the difference from 75 to 65" tv. Not worth the 2k right now. I'll just pull the TV away from the wall a foot and I wouldn't even notice haha.
That seems a bit high to me. You'll always be looking up to the center of the TV. Well, unless you plan on watching TV standing up and you are 6 ft tall

Any reason not to lower it at least a foot or so? I think it would help.
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I never thought of that. I will re-tape it this afternoon with just the 65" and see how it looks
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Tape a picture on the wall in the middle of where the TV will be (maybe a magazine page?) and use that to kind of gauge from your main seating how the angle is. I'd experiment with as low as you can go and still hide the connection outlet and on up from there, moving the picture around to get a feel where is best to have the TV center. Then test by taping it all in once you find what you feel is optimum.

Don't forget if you drop it down a lot to leave enough room for your console and center channel underneath the TV. Don't cut it too close on the center channel height in case you ever want to upgrade to a bigger one.
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My center might be an ascend horizon so I will need lots of room. I will tape off the TV Stand first. Thank you
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Taped off the TV stand I ordered. Put a Sierra Horizon sized center on top of the stand that placed the "TV" directly above it.

Measured my room finally and was way off the measurements. its 15ftx10.5ft. Seating is about 13ft from the viewing wall.
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Taped off the TV stand I ordered. Put a Sierra Horizon sized center on top of the stand that placed the "TV" directly above it.

Measured my room finally and was way off the measurements. its 15ftx10.5ft. Seating is about 13ft from the viewing wall.
Looks great. You also have accent lights for the Sierra 2’s . BTW, my son auditioned the Horizon center (along with the towers and Sierra 2’s) and all he could talk about was how great the Horizon center was.

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Looks great. You also have accent lights for the Sierra 2’s . BTW, my son auditioned the Horizon center (along with the towers and Sierra 2’s) and all he could talk about was how great the Horizon center was.
You got your kid into the audio world? Wow, if I have kids I would make sure to steer them way clear of this hobby....... it's a money pit!
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You got your kid into the audio world? Wow, if I have kids I would make sure to steer them way clear of this hobby....... it's a money pit!
I belong to the long range shooting hobby. Much more expensive than $5000 for a HT thatll last for 10 years. I have multiple $5000 rifles haha.

Card didnt come in the mail today. Hoping tomorrow so I can secure a set of B-stock sierra 2's.
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You got your kid into the audio world? Wow, if I have kids I would make sure to steer them way clear of this hobby....... it's a money pit!
Oh yes. Got him into audio at a very early age (before he was born he was listening to Iron Butterfly's "IN A GADDA DA VIDDA". But he got me into home theater, so we're even. I use to be happy with a 19-inch portable TV with rabbit ears and a 2-inch speaker, until I watched movies at his house .

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Well ordered two Sierra 2's. Should have a horizon on order by the end of this month.
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Well ordered two Sierra 2's. Should have a horizon on order by the end of this month.
Congratulations! A nice, articulate speaker that you should enjoy for years to come.

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Now the hard part is finally picking a receiver haha. Who knew that would be a hard decision
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Well, Sierra 2's shipping tomorrow, ordered a Denon x4200w, have blue Jean cables on the way. Have 2 RA Gamma 15s on the way (in a couple weeks) I should be all set. Just missing the TV and the center speaker.
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Blue Jean cables was a great idea. First batch came in today. Very solid cables
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Well, Sierra 2's shipping tomorrow, ordered a Denon x4200w, have blue Jean cables on the way. Have 2 RA Gamma 15s on the way (in a couple weeks) I should be all set. Just missing the TV and the center speaker.
You're going to have one great system once everything is integrated properly. Congratulations!

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Well denon x4200w and my Sierra 2s came in. High quality all around.

Will post some pictures up when I get time.
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Nice! And those Gamma 15s will take them to a whole 'nuther level

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