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If anyone has a single 2010i or 2020i and would like to sell let me know. I could use one for a center channel. Thanks
i am using the 2020i as centers in 2 set ups ... they work well for dialogue in a small/ med room... as a matter of fact the 2020i would be a great front 3 in a HT set up in a small room....the only better in price range might be the kef q 100 ...
Sounds good. I haven't used a center in years and preferred not having one with my Mirage towers but I tried a superzero with the 2020i's and I like it but they sound so different. The 2020i is detailed and airy but the superzero is somewhat dull. Warmer and fuller sound. Voices sound great but when music is played through it in some scenes it doesn't sound very good.
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Sounds good. I haven't used a center in years and preferred not having one with my Mirage towers but I tried a superzero with the 2020i's and I like it but they sound so different. The 2020i is detailed and airy but the superzero is somewhat dull. Warmer and fuller sound. Voices sound great but when music is played through it in some scenes it doesn't sound very good.
my main ht set up has the wharfedale 10'1s as l/r.....you are probably hearing the same type differences i hear to the q acoustics...luckily , with the 2020 in the center the difference doesn't stand out near as much...although my plan is to do the q100s as l/r as soon as i can afford it.. or if they sell out get another 2020i pair for ht ... the q100 blends nicely with the 2020i....

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Sounds good. I haven't used a center in years and preferred not having one with my Mirage towers but I tried a superzero with the 2020i's and I like it but they sound so different. The 2020i is detailed and airy but the superzero is somewhat dull. Warmer and fuller sound. Voices sound great but when music is played through it in some scenes it doesn't sound very good.
my main ht set up has the wharfedale 10'1s as l/r.....you are probably hearing the same type differences i hear to the q acoustics...luckily , with the 2020 in the center the difference doesn't stand out near as much...although my plan is to do the q100s as l/r as soon as i can afford it.. or if they sell out get another 2020i pair for ht ... the q100 blends nicely with the 2020i....
Yeah I think you're right. I've owned the 10.1's and the Q100's. I can totally see the sz matching well with the 10.1's and the Q100 matching the 2020i's lol.
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There is a pair of QA 2010i used for $119 and free shipping on Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Q-Acoustics...0AAOSwJhFZgzT9
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Head's up, 15% off everything other than the Concept 500s for Valentine's Day.

The Concept 20s haven't been this inexpensive in over 2 years as just one example.
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Head's up, 15% off everything other than the Concept 500s for Valentine's Day.

The Concept 20s haven't been this inexpensive in over 2 years as just one example.
FYI, if you sign up for the newsletter you also get a 5% code that stacks up on top of the valentines day promo.

Just bought a a la carte 5.0 package for $540 shipped, so exited to finally get them in next week.

3020's for fronts.
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3090C for center.

Will probably be adding the ELAC A4 atmos speakers later on since I'm coming from a Samsung K950 Atmos soundbar and I've gotten used to the height effect.
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Head's up, 15% off everything other than the Concept 500s for Valentine's Day.

The Concept 20s haven't been this inexpensive in over 2 years as just one example.
Just ran across this deal. Haven't seen more than 10% at any one time.
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There is a pair of QA 2010i used for $119 and free shipping on Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Q-Acoustics...0AAOSwJhFZgzT9
Ha, guess I grabbed the last pair of these. Found some $5 off ebay coupon as well that used on the 2010s. Actually, listening to them right now as part of a home desktop setup. Being powered by Pio Elite VSX-45TX (my 1st HT receiver) via USB from desktop. Have a Mirage Omni S8 sub in the mix as well. Much better than the Monitor Audio Radius 90s they replaced...much fuller sound above 80 Hz. Still not sure if I like them better than some NHT SB1s from the bedroom setup though. I have found that these are very garbage in / garbage out speakers. Pandora sounds OK, but when I put some CD action through them, they 10x better.

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Ha, guess I grabbed the last pair of these. Found some $5 off ebay coupon as well that used on the 2010s. Actually, listening to them right now as part of a home desktop setup. Being powered by Pio Elite VSX-45TX (my 1st HT receiver) via USB from desktop. Have a Mirage Omni S8 sub in the mix as well. Much better than the Monitor Audio Radius 90s they replaced...much fuller sound above 80 Hz. Still not sure if I like them better than some NHT SB1s from the bedroom setup though. I have found that these are very garbage in / garbage out speakers. Pandora sounds OK, but when I put some CD action through them, they 10x better.
Yes the Radius speakers are somewhat limited -- for the price, the Q Acoustics speakers are good.

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Ha, guess I grabbed the last pair of these. Found some $5 off ebay coupon as well that used on the 2010s. Actually, listening to them right now as part of a home desktop setup. Being powered by Pio Elite VSX-45TX (my 1st HT receiver) via USB from desktop. Have a Mirage Omni S8 sub in the mix as well. Much better than the Monitor Audio Radius 90s they replaced...much fuller sound above 80 Hz.
Surprised the Monitor Audio tweeter isn't superior.

High praise for the 2010s.

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Good to see someone else mentioned the 15% off. I finally got two pair of 3010s in white for height and surround speakers after buying my initial system eight months ago. My wife wasn't as upset as I thought she'd be. She even helped look for a corner shelf to put one of the surround speakers on! The other is going on a desk. The front height speakers will be placed on top of the bookshelves flanking the TV and I plan to put them on angled speaker stands that are reversed to point downwards.

Yes, the white is a fair bit more expensive but it matches everything and looks very nice.

Only minus of the set up (Concept center, 3020 front, 3010 height, 3010 surround) is that the Concept speakers have a silver/grey front that isn't body-colored and the white Concept center looks bad with the grill off. I would have gotten the 3090 center but it only comes in one color, graphite. So the nice, magnetic grills are removed from everything else but the center and look really nice. The magnetic cover means no holes for the covers and it's quite attractive in person. Another plus is the 3020s are about the height of many of our books and the bookshelf speakers fit very nicely actually placed on a bookshelf.

Good quality, nice aesthetics, on sale.
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Surprised the Monitor Audio tweeter isn't superior.

High praise for the 2010s.
Not so sure the 2010's tweeter is better as much as it just provides a fuller sound for my desktop setup. While I have no complaints about the tweeter and ability on the 2010s, I might do some additional A/B testing between the 2 this weekend. The Radius tweeter may be the proverbial baby being thrown out with the bathwater! To me, the 2010s tweeter seems crystal clear and defined though.

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Is there a big difference between 3050 and concept 40s


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[QUOTE=snowx800;55683242]Is there a big difference between 3050 and concept 40s

The review of the 3050 and the Concept 40 at enjoythemusic.com might be helpful.

Here's a guess: The Concept 40 (a step up) sounds similar to the Concept 20 bookshelf speaker, but the Concept 40 has greater bass extension. The Concept is more accurate, detailed, refined--and has a more open midrange.
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I loved the Concept 20s and would expect the Concept 40 to be excellent BUT the kicker is that you would likely need a sub even for music with the C40s while you could do without with the 3050s which are said to be very good in their own right.
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I would like to ask if someone has combined Concept Centre (as central channel) and 3020 (as front). I found an offer for the Concept Centre and I would buy it, but I'm not sure if is matching with 3020.
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I would like to ask if someone has combined Concept Centre (as central channel) and 3020 (as front). I found an offer for the Concept Centre and I would buy it, but I'm not sure if is matching with 3020.
The 3020s were designed to specifically emulate the sound signature of the Concept speakers at a lower price point according to Steve Reichert the now retired Marketing Director of Q Acoustics who took a personal hand in "voicing" the QA line.

The Concept speakers came out after the 2000 series and before the 3000 series.

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I would like to ask if someone has combined Concept Centre (as central channel) and 3020 (as front). I found an offer for the Concept Centre and I would buy it, but I'm not sure if is matching with 3020.
I can't imagine the Concept center being any worse than the 3070 center.

How much are they asking for it?

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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They ask about 200?
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They ask about 200?
Huh, it's $310 shipped in the US. I would ask them why they're selling it, and see if the reason given seems believable.

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Finally got a chance to unbox and setup my Concept 20s. Disappointed in the messy "finish" around the edges of the front where the grill makes contact with the glossy paint:


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I've tried wiping it off with a damp micro-fiber cloth and a pre-moistened cleaning cloth and none of it will come off. Am I being too picky?
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Finally got a chance to unbox and setup my Concept 20s. Disappointed in the messy "finish" around the edges of the front where the grill makes contact with the glossy paint: I've tried wiping it off with a damp micro-fiber cloth and a pre-moistened cleaning cloth and none of it will come off. Am I being too picky?
I empathize with you, Synomenon. My gloss white Concept 20s present a similar issue.

It seems to me that these marks originate with the speaker grills. Currently, I cannot determine whether these marks are ink or dye or small abrasions. Below the woofer, about 5mm below the metal plate, you may also notice a thin, darkish outline that matches the shape and position of the speaker grill.

I'm curious: did your speakers arrive with protective slip sheets in place?

I tried to gently remove the marks with a cotton swab and soapy water—no luck. I'm apprehensive to try to remove the marks with rubbing alcohol, i.e., isopropyl alcohol.

By the way, you are not being too picky. Why? In one word: expectations. "The secret of Q Acoustic success is very simple: People choose Q Acoustics loudspeakers because they deliver an unrivaled combination of excellent sound quality and first-class finish at a very affordable price," according to Q Acoustics. Professional reviews also note the Concept 20's excellent build quality and finish.

Still, the Concept 20s are fine little loudspeakers. I enjoy them. My Q100s generally remain unused.
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Finally got a chance to unbox and setup my Concept 20s. Disappointed in the messy "finish" around the edges of the front where the grill makes contact with the glossy paint:


Left speaker:






Right speaker:





I've tried wiping it off with a damp micro-fiber cloth and a pre-moistened cleaning cloth and none of it will come off. Am I being too picky?
q acoustics *should* address that...

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I empathize with you, Synomenon. My gloss white Concept 20s present a similar issue.

It seems to me that these marks originate with the speaker grills. Currently, I cannot determine whether these marks are ink or dye or small abrasions. Below the woofer, about 5mm below the metal plate, you may also notice a thin, darkish outline that matches the shape and position of the speaker grill.

I'm curious: did your speakers arrive with protective slip sheets in place?

I tried to gently remove the marks with a cotton swab and soapy water—no luck. I'm apprehensive to try to remove the marks with rubbing alcohol, i.e., isopropyl alcohol.

By the way, you are not being too picky. Why? In one word: expectations. "The secret of Q Acoustic success is very simple: People choose Q Acoustics loudspeakers because they deliver an unrivaled combination of excellent sound quality and first-class finish at a very affordable price," according to Q Acoustics. Professional reviews also note the Concept 20's excellent build quality and finish.

Still, the Concept 20s are fine little loudspeakers. I enjoy them. My Q100s generally remain unused.
i have the kef q100's also.. and am thinking about (for a different system) trying something similar , but maybe a wee bit warmer , what do you like about the concept 20's? they are on my "radar".. thanks...i have the 2020is and the sound is kind of similar to the q100's (but much less smooth , imo)....

YAMAHA TSR 5790.. front l/r emotiva b1's and /or kef q100's ..BIC v1220.....Emotiva basx10.... ascend cbm 170 center.. polk t15 rears..samsung 55" j620d
bedroom .. YAMAHA r-xv 383... front l/r.. wharfedale 10.1s... ascend cbm 170 center ... Emotiva basx8... samsung ku6300 50 in

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I empathize with you, Synomenon. My gloss white Concept 20s present a similar issue.

It seems to me that these marks originate with the speaker grills. Currently, I cannot determine whether these marks are ink or dye or small abrasions. Below the woofer, about 5mm below the metal plate, you may also notice a thin, darkish outline that matches the shape and position of the speaker grill.

I'm curious: did your speakers arrive with protective slip sheets in place?

I tried to gently remove the marks with a cotton swab and soapy water—no luck. I'm apprehensive to try to remove the marks with rubbing alcohol, i.e., isopropyl alcohol.

By the way, you are not being too picky. Why? In one word: expectations. "The secret of Q Acoustic success is very simple: People choose Q Acoustics loudspeakers because they deliver an unrivaled combination of excellent sound quality and first-class finish at a very affordable price," according to Q Acoustics. Professional reviews also note the Concept 20's excellent build quality and finish.

Still, the Concept 20s are fine little loudspeakers. I enjoy them. My Q100s generally remain unused.
Yes, mine also have dark discolorations above the metal Q Acoustic logo on the front of both speakers. They also came with those very thin foam sheet sandwiched between the grill and speaker. For all the rave reviews and higher price, I expected these to come in perfect shape. They sound good, but again to my non-audiophile ears I can't tell much of a difference between these (Concept 20 + Concept Center) and the Polk setup I had (Polk S20 + S35 Center). The Polk setup cost half of what the Q Acoustics does and they didn't have these annoying cosmetic blemishes.





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They kind of did. Emailed a pre-paid UPS Ground return label to me to send these back (UPS Ground either way - from them to me or me to them - takes a week and it'll take them three days to "process" the replacement once they receive this defective set). Once they receive these they'll send a replacement set. They wouldn't answer my questions though on whether the replacements will be new and whether they can guarantee the replacements won't have the same problem.

No suggestion(s) at all on how to try to remove the darkened spots...

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Yes, mine also have dark discolorations above the metal Q Acoustic logo on the front of both speakers. They also came with those very thin foam sheet sandwiched between the grill and speaker. For all the rave reviews and higher price, I expected these to come in perfect shape. They sound good, but again to my non-audiophile ears I can't tell much of a difference between these (Concept 20 + Concept Center) and the Polk setup I had (Polk S20 + S35 Center). The Polk setup cost half of what the Q Acoustics does and they didn't have these annoying cosmetic blemishes.







They kind of did. Emailed a pre-paid UPS Ground return label to me to send these back (UPS Ground either way - from them to me or me to them - takes a week and it'll take them three days to "process" the replacement once they receive this defective set). Once they receive these they'll send a replacement set. They wouldn't answer my questions though on whether the replacements will be new and whether they can guarantee the replacements won't have the same problem.

No suggestion(s) at all on how to try to remove the darkened spots...
i don't find q acoustics customer service as good as some other members apparently do.. i kinda like the 2020i's for ht but i'm really not sold on them... get your return slip , send em back.. if the next pair shows up with similar issues , demand a refund .. it's their issue at that point .. you don't want to pay $500 for furniture(speakers ARE furniture) that is damaged.. good luck
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i don't find q acoustics customer service as good as some other members apparently do.. i kinda like the 2020i's for ht but i'm really not sold on them... get your return slip , send em back.. if the next pair shows up with similar issues , demand a refund .. it's their issue at that point .. you don't want to pay $500 for furniture(speakers ARE furniture) that is damaged.. good luck
Yeah, their customer service has just been meh. If they had good customer service, they would have setup an advance replacement like Polk, Klipsch and JBL have done for me in the past or maybe even have suggestions on how to "fix" this though I don't think this can be fixed once it's there (the discolorations / marred finish).
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[QUOTE=Synomenon;55709110] They sound good, but again to my non-audiophile ears I can't tell much of a difference between these (Concept 20 + Concept Center) and the Polk setup I had (Polk S20 + S35 Center). The Polk setup cost half of what the Q Acoustics does and they didn't have these annoying cosmetic blemishes.



For music, home theater or both?

BTW, I have read of peeling vinyl issue in the Polk Signature thread so no manufacturer is immune.

I had the C20s in black in my home and the build quality was first rate but on those they left the front face the natural aluminum color, no paint IIRC.

I would expect similar issues with another white set so why not just get them in black instead as the Polks are black, (though the Polks, curiously, are available in white in Europe).
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They sound good, but again to my non-audiophile ears I can't tell much of a difference between these (Concept 20 + Concept Center) and the Polk setup I had (Polk S20 + S35 Center). The Polk setup cost half of what the Q Acoustics does and they didn't have these annoying cosmetic blemishes.



For music, home theater or both?

BTW, I have read of peeling vinyl issue in the Polk Signature thread so no manufacturer is immune.

I had the C20s in black in my home and the build quality was first rate but on those they left the front face the natural aluminum color, no paint IIRC.

I would expect similar issues with another white set so why not just get them in black instead as the Polks are black, (though the Polks, curiously, are available in white in Europe).
Mostly home theater / TV with occasional music.

Had considered going with black, but not glossy piano black. The white model is the same. It has the aluminum plate on the front just like the black model. It's the edges around the front (which are the white glossy finish) where the grills make contact and where the discoloration is.


Also, Q Acoustics won't swap with a different color. They make you get a refund then repurchase to get a different color. Another minus with their customer service.

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Mostly home theater / TV with occasional music.

Had considered going with black, but not glossy piano black. The white model is the same. It has the aluminum plate on the front just like the black model. It's the edges around the front (which are the white glossy finish) where the grills make contact and where the discoloration is.


Also, Q Acoustics won't swap with a different color. They make you get a refund then repurchase to get a different color. Another minus with their customer service.
For mostly movies/tv the Polks should be just fine.
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