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Just curious why you'e chosen to dismiss the KEF. Of those two remaining, the Q 3020's all the way.

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Just curious why you'e chosen to dismiss the KEF. Of those two remaining, the Q 3020's all the way.
The main reason is the price of the center. I know I'm not buying them at the same time, but I plan on buying the center in a couple of months. So with the Kefs, I'd be spending $700 (on sale) for bookshelves and center. The centers from the other brands are considerably cheaper: ~$400 for bookshelves and center.

I've never had any type of home theater setup before, so even a budget setup should sound great to me.
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You can get the EMP Teks at a discount right now:

http://emptek.com/bs6019855430RB.php

The R5Bi can also be turned on its side and used as a center. So left, right, and center for the price of the Q100

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The main reason is the price of the center. I know I'm not buying them at the same time, but I plan on buying the center in a couple of months. So with the Kefs, I'd be spending $700 (on sale) for bookshelves and center. The centers from the other brands are considerably cheaper: ~$400 for bookshelves and center.

I've never had any type of home theater setup before, so even a budget setup should sound great to me.
Fair enough. It's my belief that until you've listened to what you have or buy for long enough to "establish a baseline" of performance that you start noticing what other systems can do. This will be a classic example. You'll get something new that absolutely smashes TV speakers, and be happy for some undetermined time. Then you happen to be at a friend's house, store, or other venue and notice how much better that system does something such as bass, treble, midrange, dialogue, or....everything. That's when you start to wonder what "could have been" when you first set up.

Don't take this the wrong way. There are people like my wife who could sit in the sweet spot of the priciest home theater and not give a damn that it's awesome. I honestly can't tell if she even notices the difference because she truly doesn't care one bit. You may have a situation where a spouse just won't accept anything more than a soundbar, and even that was a struggle but he/she did enjoy hearing dialogue easier. Come to think of it, if you don't envision eventually getting surround speakers and a subwoofer, just get a premium soundbar and be done.

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After talking with the wife and giving it some more thought, I'm not going to go with the Kefs. I want to buy a sub and center sooner rather than later so I'm between the EMP Tek R5Bi or Q-Acoustic 3020s. Both brands have centers that are considerably cheaper, so I can buy them if they randomly go on sale (Black Friday?) or in a month or so. Coming from using TV speakers my whole life, I'll still benefit greatly from more budget friendly options.

Thanks for all the replies. Any opinions between my final 2 choices?
Both are highly regarded so I'd choose the one what looks nicest and will "match" your room's aesthetic best to be honest.

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There are people like my wife who could sit in the sweet spot of the priciest home theater and not give a damn that it's awesome.

I honestly can't tell if she even notices the difference because she truly doesn't care one bit.
After almost a decade of not buying any speakers I've gone on a flurry in the past 6 months or so, replacing a blown small sub with a Yamaha SW012, buying the LX16s, having Concept 20s in the house for a few months, buying a Dayton Audio 3 speaker setup just for giggles, (gave them to an AVS member on a budget for free...quite good if you're on a budget), choosing to keep the Concept 20 stands and just this week buying a second SW012 sub for my now 2.2/3.2 setup in the secondary listening room.

My wife just groans and rolls here eyes.

Mind you, she loves the 5.1 system in my main HT and we never listen to TV/movies without it on.

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After talking with the wife and giving it some more thought, I'm not going to go with the Kefs. I want to buy a sub and center sooner rather than later so I'm between the EMP Tek R5Bi or Q-Acoustic 3020s. Both brands have centers that are considerably cheaper, so I can buy them if they randomly go on sale (Black Friday?) or in a month or so. Coming from using TV speakers my whole life, I'll still benefit greatly from more budget friendly options.

Thanks for all the replies. Any opinions between my final 2 choices?
The Q acoustics will have a similar sound signature as Kef's. If you like the Kef sound, you will likely like the Q acoustics.

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The Q acoustics will have a similar sound signature as Kef's. If you like the Kef sound, you will likely like the Q acoustics.
How would you describe the sound signature? I've read they have the "british sound", but I don't know what that means. Would they be similar to any B&W speakers as I can probably preview those in a BestBuy?
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How would you describe the sound signature? I've read they have the "british sound", but I don't know what that means. Would they be similar to any B&W speakers as I can probably preview those in a BestBuy?
Yes, very similar, the Q Acoustics have just a bit more detail...but not as much a the Martin Logan lX16s/motion 15s.

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Take a look at these.

Attractive, and well reviewed by the AVS staff at trade show demos.
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You can get the EMP Teks at a discount right now:

http://emptek.com/bs6019855430RB.php

The R5Bi can also be turned on its side and used as a center. So left, right, and center for the price of the Q100
I can vouch for not only the EMP speakers, but all three of my EMP purchases were B stock...and I have yet to find a flaw in any of them (except the speaker that my dog knocked over and dented at my house...!)
just read the return policy very closely...some companies will not allow you to return B stock unless they are defective.

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Nothing else is worth considering in your price range:

https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/lou...dspeakers/A1.4

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I haven't heard them yet, but I've read a lot of good things about the Hsu Research HB-1 MK2 bookshelf speakers. They're $159 each, so slightly above your new $250 budget (unless that was per speaker, not per pair), but they are exactly 8" wide. :-)

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

Has anyone on here heard and/or purchased the HB-1 MK2's?

I'm thinking of getting a pair to mate with a Hsu Ultra 15 sub and a Yamaha R-N602 stereo receiver.

Good luck!
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Nothing else is worth considering in your price range:

https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/lou...dspeakers/A1.4
Wow, that's a heady statement to make. I feel that all the speakers mentioned should be heard, considered and let the listener make their own determination.

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Nothing else is worth considering in your price range:

https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/lou...dspeakers/A1.4
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Wow, that's a heady statement to make. I feel that all the speakers mentioned should be heard, considered and let the listener make their own determination.
+1

I always figure that when people make that kind of statement, they have never compared their speakers to many other forum favorites in that price range.
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Has anyone on here heard and/or purchased the HB-1 MK2's?

I'm thinking of getting a pair to mate with a Hsu Ultra 15 sub and a Yamaha R-N602 stereo receiver.

Good luck!
I have not personally heard them but have yet to read on AVS of anyone returning them.

Those that upgraded from them said they were very good...people upgrading were generally upgrading to speakers double or more in price.

None of them that I can recall said they were bad value for the money.

Here's a thread about them for you to look through.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...-speakers.html

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Yeah, some of those speakers are slightly out of my price range ($250/pair). Either way, I went ahead and ordered the Q Acoustics 3020 yesterday. It came down to the EMP Tek's and the Q Acoustics. We liked the look and size of the Q Acoustics better plus they've been getting rave reviews. The return policy seems to be the same for both. I should have them by tomorrow and can set everything up and try them out.
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Yeah, some of those speakers are slightly out of my price range ($250/pair). Either way, I went ahead and ordered the Q Acoustics 3020 yesterday. It came down to the EMP Tek's and the Q Acoustics. We liked the look and size of the Q Acoustics better plus they've been getting rave reviews. The return policy seems to be the same for both. I should have them by tomorrow and can set everything up and try them out.
Excellent; look forward to your impressions.

I'm assuming you will be using a sub at some point as even an inexpensive sub helps make a set of bookshelves really shine.

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I need some help selecting a pair of speakers after deciding not to go with a soundbar. I'll eventually move to 2.1 or 3.0 in a month or two depending on what the speakers need most. Main factors are they have to be under $300 and less than 8" wide. My budget has slowly been creeping up and the initial investment is much steeper than a soundbar. Even though I know it's worth it, my wife doesn't agree as much. I'm happy to go with cheaper speakers that I can eventually upgrade and move to rears as long as they'll last me a while before needing to upgrade. More info:

1) Budget: $300 max. Spending less is better as I could always upgrade in the future and move what I buy to rears

2) Use: 70% tv/movies, 30% gaming/music (music will just be to hear from other rooms - small apt)

3) Equipment: Have an AVR X1200W on the way from A4L. Never had anything else.

4) Room Size: Full room at it's largest is 13' x 10.5'. However, the TV stand sits in a little alcove that's 8' (pics attached). Also, I sit 7' away from the TV with the couch against the wall

5) Placement: Have to be on my TV stand on either side of TV

6) Size: Have to be less than 8" wide as there's no space

7) Considerations: Based on speakers I've seen recommended in my price range that fit the size requirements:

Kef Q100 - most expensive; would only get if it's a noticeable difference and worth the price; plus return policy isn't good
EMP Tek R5Bi - B-stock or Black Friday?
Elac B5 - biggest and ugliest (is the sound worth the looks?)
Others: WaveCrest HVL-1, HTD Level 2, Wharfedale Diamond 10.1

8) Preferences: clarity in dialog is really important. Also a wide sweetspot? My wife and I sit on our couch potentially at either end (if we're laying down)

I'm leaning towards the R5Bi as I've been reading a lot of good things (I know I'll eventually need a sub). Basically help me impress my wife with $/sound. Thanks!

Edit: Dropping budget to $250. Between EMP Tek R5Bi or Q-Acoustic 3020
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For me and many others, speakers are something we have to actually look at as much as (if not more) we listen to them and we may not be the only ones in the house who do. With that factor in the equation (price being foremost) I had to consider and consult before even auditioning speakers. The Chane speakers may look good to some and sound even better, but they wouldn't make the cut in the looks department in my home.

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I know it's a little late but I also recommend the Ascend Acoustics HTM-200 speakers. Someone on this forum recommended them to me. I had a need for small speakers that were going in a bookshelf so I didn't want anything that was ported on the rear like most I saw were. The HTM-200's are sealed and small but they sound great and can handle a lot of volume while remaining very clear. I bought 3 of them and use them for L-C-R speakers along with a subwoofer. I have been very pleased and impressed with them, especially how low they will play for their size.
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How about the Energy Take 5 speakers? I had these years ago and liked them. they're small but sound pretty good.

Edit: I see you purchased something already. I'll leave my comment up for the next guy
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Excellent; look forward to your impressions.

I'm assuming you will be using a sub at some point as even an inexpensive sub helps make a set of bookshelves really shine.
Yeah, I'll definitely be getting a sub eventually (might have to get rid of something to make space for it).

First impressions without even hearing the speakers are good so far. As much as this doesn't matter for sound quality, they have a great looking site, include speaker cables, and their customer service has been great (I had a shipping issue that they fixed immediately plus retroactively applied a 5% off coupon to my order). I know some of these things don't matter for more seasoned audio people, but they are pluses for someone new like me.
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I see you purchased something else. Sorry for the post and good luck with your new speakers

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There are some parallels to the Budget 3.1 System thread from 9/2016.
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I need some help selecting a pair of speakers after deciding not to go with a soundbar. I'll eventually move to 2.1 or 3.0 in a month or two depending on what the speakers need most. Main factors are they have to be under $300 and less than 8" wide. My budget has slowly been creeping up and the initial investment is much steeper than a soundbar. Even though I know it's worth it, my wife doesn't agree as much. I'm happy to go with cheaper speakers that I can eventually upgrade and move to rears as long as they'll last me a while before needing to upgrade. More info:

1) Budget: $300 max. Spending less is better as I could always upgrade in the future and move what I buy to rears

2) Use: 70% tv/movies, 30% gaming/music (music will just be to hear from other rooms - small apt)

3) Equipment: Have an AVR X1200W on the way from A4L. Never had anything else.

4) Room Size: Full room at it's largest is 13' x 10.5'. However, the TV stand sits in a little alcove that's 8' (pics attached). Also, I sit 7' away from the TV with the couch against the wall

5) Placement: Have to be on my TV stand on either side of TV

6) Size: Have to be less than 8" wide as there's no space

7) Considerations: Based on speakers I've seen recommended in my price range that fit the size requirements:

Kef Q100 - most expensive; would only get if it's a noticeable difference and worth the price; plus return policy isn't good
EMP Tek R5Bi - B-stock or Black Friday?
Elac B5 - biggest and ugliest (is the sound worth the looks?)
Others: WaveCrest HVL-1, HTD Level 2, Wharfedale Diamond 10.1

8) Preferences: clarity in dialog is really important. Also a wide sweetspot? My wife and I sit on our couch potentially at either end (if we're laying down)

I'm leaning towards the R5Bi as I've been reading a lot of good things (I know I'll eventually need a sub). Basically help me impress my wife with $/sound. Thanks!

Edit: Dropping budget to $250. Between EMP Tek R5Bi or Q-Acoustic 3020
I had a situation similar to yours in terms of budget and space limitations and ended up withe the Q Acoustics 3010s. At the time they were not sold in the US and British dealers wouldn't ship them. I ended up during an end run, getting them from a dealer in Italy. The same money would get the 3020s in the US, and if you have space, I'd go for those. I am very pleased with my choice and strongly recommend them.
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I haven't heard them yet, but I've read a lot of good things about the Hsu Research HB-1 MK2 bookshelf speakers. They're $159 each, so slightly above your new $250 budget (unless that was per speaker, not per pair), but they are exactly 8" wide. :-)

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

Has anyone on here heard and/or purchased the HB-1 MK2's?

I'm thinking of getting a pair to mate with a Hsu Ultra 15 sub and a Yamaha R-N602 stereo receiver.

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I’m confused with your subwoofer that you own. The “Ultra” is an SVS brand. Did you mean the Hsu ULS-15 Mk 2?

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I always figure that when people make that kind of statement, they have never compared their speakers to many other forum favorites in that price range.
Always profiling will lead to wrong assumptions, as it has in this case. I know what statement I made and why I made it.

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Always profiling will lead to wrong assumptions, as it has in this case. I know what statement I made and why I made it.
We don't.

So what forum favorites in the same budget range have you compared them to?

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Always profiling will lead to wrong assumptions, as it has in this case. I know what statement I made and why I made it.
You are also making a blanket assumption in thinking everyone has the same ears and values as you.

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