Originally Posted by coytee
"Love my old school Fortes. But there is no way I would pay almost $4,000 for a new pair. These can't touch Klipsch pro cinema line which are far more cost effective."
Perhaps that depends...
The Forte was a speaker designed specifically for residential use. So it has an engineered sound and some aesthetics applied. It is what it is (for better or worse)
The Jubilee (a pro cinema speaker) was also specifically designed for residential use. It was originally intended to become the Klipschorn II and PWK felt it bested the Khorn by such a margin it deserved its own place in the line-up. The company had other plans and it was shelved. It later emerged in the cinema line.
So here, you have a speaker, specifically designed for residential use. It has an engineered sound and no aesthetics applied. Now you're getting a better value for your dollar for sound since you are not also paying for a pretty dress and some lipstick.
(they are however about twice as expensive)
What are you basing your claims of what the Jubilee was designed for on? Not asking sarcastically, but I would love to read some sort of links or hear where you actually got or verified this idea from.
Everything points to the Jubilee being a giant speaker designed for auditoriums and commercial theaters. That's not necessarily hitting the bulls-eye on high fidelity music reproduction and imaging in a residential environment. While I'm sure they exist, the market for 200+ seat, 5000 square foot home theater rooms is too small for anyone to design speakers for this type of market.
Spending the money and using the space it would take on a Jubilee system for a residential space and seating is an asinine to me unless someone just thinks the look and idea of huge speakers like that is what they're going for.
Speaker design is a battle of compromise. The Jubilee is a very large speaker with huge dispersion and very high output/volumes. Enough to cover 300+ seating. There is always a trade off for those capabilities and it's typically accuracy and imaging.
Another way over looked real life concern is that when you (metaphorically) wedge 50lbs of a commercial grade speaker, and shove it into a 10lbs bag (a residential sized theater space) what do you think happens with it's widely dispersed wave forms? Do you know the acoustical nightmare that will cause in a residential room and seating distance/positions? It's all draw back and no benefit. The residential marketed speakers are better in all aspects when it comes to real world and real life performance in residential rooms.
And where this notion of "pro" speakers sounding better than residential hifi gear and that residential stuff is the same thing, but prettier and more expensive came from is beyond me. I've been doing this for 18 years. NEVER... EVER have I come across a "pro" grade speaker that sounded outstanding. NEVER. And I've worked with or heard just about everything under the sun. Most commercial speakers are designed... again... to do 3 specific things and that's usually play loud, have wide coverage or specific wave forms to hit different seating widths, depths, etc, and be (relative to the project/capabilities) cheap in doing so.
I just put in some Revel outdoor speakers that use the exact same cabinet and mounting system as the JBL pro grade outdoor commercial speakers, but they (Harman) changed the drivers and crossover in them. Do you know why? Because the commercial stuff isn't made for hi-fidelity and sounds like crap when compared to what someone would expect in their house when listening for an extended period of time.
When it comes to theater usage, I'm sure the general tonality of sound is similar. But with the wave forms coming out of that Jubilee, that would be so hard to tame! Musically, no way.
But, just because I'm always open to learning something, I will call my contacts at Klipsch and report back what they say. This is the technology business. I am 100% open to being wrong. hell, I LOVE it when I am because then I can get it right and keep progressing!