Originally Posted by Elihawk
We have to make a major distinction here...
This is a science forum and while anyone is welcome, it really is a community of people with a greater interest in sound...not only do we want the best sound possible, but we want to know how the best sound is happening. I want to know about drivers, crossovers, cabinets and ports. Bose won't tell me any of that and in fact, won't even let me listen to a Bose system side by side at one of the many stores that carry Bose. Anyway, the group of people who care not only about good sound, but how it is produced and how we can get even better sound, and since alot of us aren't rich, how we can get the best possible sound without robbing a bank...those are not Bose consumers.
A lot of consumers couldn't care less about finding the best quality sound or how it happens. They want better than their TV speakers and in some cases, they want the Bose name...as they see it in magazine and occassionally on TV. They want to spend 30 min on set up, not 3 weeks. They don't want wires all over their houses and they want speakers that blend into there living rooms. This group can't understand why Bose wouldn't be appreciate by Group #1
I look at the Bose Acoustimas and notice that Pyle Pro sells an identical looking system for 1/5 the price. I say- wait, what does the Bose system have that Pyle Pro doesn't and the only answer I can come up with is NOTHING...I have heard both and they both sound like crap...and maybe the Bose was a little better, but why is it not okay for me to point out that if both systems are "sub optimal" audio performers, the Pyle pro is the better VALUE?
In my experience, "value" is a loaded term.
the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something.
"your support is of great value"
estimate the monetary worth of (something).
"his estate was valued at $45,000"
For instance, being a Realtor, I understand the value of a property is EXACTLY what someone is willing to pay for it. This can be approximated by comping recent sales and current listings, but it is indeed only an approximation. Until someone reaches into their wallet, the value is not known.
The same thing is true for speakers, cars, computers, doctors, whatever. Companies sell their products or services for the highest amount the market will bear, period. Therefore, if Bose can get $2500 for a cube/subwoofer system, $2500 is what it's worth and $2500 is what you will pay. If consumers stop buying that system for $2500, the value has been adjusted.
It's all well and good to bash Bose because it's price may not reconcile with it's performance compared to certain competitors, but there is much more than that to the value equation. Most consumers think of Bose as a premium name, and therefore will pay more for that name. Most consumers aren't speaker nerds like us, so will place a higher priority on aesthetic design (which means not seeing the speakers, usually). Bose does this quite well, as most better performing systems will also be much more intrusive to the eye. And lastly, consumers have been (successfully by Bose marketing) conditioned to think of Bose as a manufacturer of quality audio gear, and probably wouldn't believe us audio nerds outright if we contradict this notion. Of course, we could prove it to them with a side by side comparison, but how many of us have facility or the desire to do that? Nope, they wont believe us unless we can make a slick infomercial with rock stars and pretty girls. Credit Bose for awesome marketing.