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Reccommend some decent in ceiling speakers???

hello All,

My wife and I just signed a build contact with a home builder, the house should be done sometime in October. One of the things that is going to change is our speaker setup. Currently I have a DefTech ProCinema 800 5.1 set up with the surrounds mounted in the corners of our living room. This won't be possible in the new house as its a more open concept design and the kitchen opens up to the living room so there is no good place to put the surround speakers.

This leaves me with wanting to put 2 in ceiling speakers in the ceiling space between the 2 rooms. What are some decent speakers that I should consider that would pair well with the rest of the DefTech system? I was thinking of maybe using the 2 unused Promonitor 800's as side surrounds to get a 7.1 system. The Procenter 1000 will go under the tv either on the wall or on top of a entertainment center and same for the other 2 promonitors for the front.

I don't want t break the bank but would like something that sound goods and works well for rear surrounds, thanks!
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hello All,

My wife and I just signed a build contact with a home builder, the house should be done sometime in October. One of the things that is going to change is our speaker setup. Currently I have a DefTech ProCinema 800 5.1 set up with the surrounds mounted in the corners of our living room. This won't be possible in the new house as its a more open concept design and the kitchen opens up to the living room so there is no good place to put the surround speakers.

This leaves me with wanting to put 2 in ceiling speakers in the ceiling space between the 2 rooms. What are some decent speakers that I should consider that would pair well with the rest of the DefTech system? I was thinking of maybe using the 2 unused Promonitor 800's as side surrounds to get a 7.1 system. The Procenter 1000 will go under the tv either on the wall or on top of a entertainment center and same for the other 2 promonitors for the front.

I don't want t break the bank but would like something that sound goods and works well for rear surrounds, thanks!
These, but if $250/pair is too expensive for you just get Polk in ceilings.

No need to "match" to the Def Tecs for surround effects and Def Tec wants waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much for their in ceilings.

https://hometheaterreview.com/rsl-c3...aker-reviewed/
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These, but if $250/pair is too expensive for you just get Polk in ceilings.

No need to "match" to the Def Tecs for surround effects and Def Tec wants waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much for their in ceilings.

https://hometheaterreview.com/rsl-c3...aker-reviewed/
Those look pretty good and I like the price. I'm unsure about the size of them being almost 12" in diameter.
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Those look pretty good and I like the price. I'm unsure about the size of them being almost 12" in diameter.
I have 4 of these on preorder so I can't comment on how they sound, etc. But I asked about the cutout so I can have everything ready and when they arrive I can just slam them in, the cutout is 10-1/8".
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It seems like the RSL in-ceiling are always on back order. I've been watching them for a little over a month now and they didn't note a date the last I checked. I'm in a similar situation with but I keep looking at the Def Tech in-ceiling since you can get them a lot cheaper on a few of the online sites. I've also looked at OSD (Amazon) and Monoprice but Without hearing either one I have a hard time pulling the trigger. There's tons of reviews of the Monoprice but I'd really like to hear them in person since most of the reviews all start with "for what you pay they are great...." For the patio I was able to find the Def Tech AW6500 for $150/ ea. Two of those should be a great starting point for me and being able to hear them in person was the main reason for choosing those over some others.
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So the RSL C34E speakers are back in stock and I'm thinking I will pull the trigger on them soon. I have a few questions: Are there any rough in brackets that will work with these speakers? The cut says 10-1/8" but most of the rings I see for rough ins have a 10" diameter hole. Will they fit if you just "squeeze" them in a bit? do I need to trim the rings to get them fit before putting them up in the ceiling? Also, I plan on using them for rear surrounds, is having them in the ceiling going to be a bad thing for this? and I was thinking of running a 12/4 or 14/4 CL2 rated speaker wire and splitting it once I get back to the speaker locations. In doing so there will be sections that have the white outer jacket covering the individual speaker wires. Is that a no-no? Should I just run two strands of 12/2 or 14/2?
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So the RSL C34E speakers are back in stock and I'm thinking I will pull the trigger on them soon. I have a few questions: Are there any rough in brackets that will work with these speakers? The cut says 10-1/8" but most of the rings I see for rough ins have a 10" diameter hole. Will they fit if you just "squeeze" them in a bit? do I need to trim the rings to get them fit before putting them up in the ceiling? Also, I plan on using them for rear surrounds, is having them in the ceiling going to be a bad thing for this? and I was thinking of running a 12/4 or 14/4 CL2 rated speaker wire and splitting it once I get back to the speaker locations. In doing so there will be sections that have the white outer jacket covering the individual speaker wires. Is that a no-no? Should I just run two strands of 12/2 or 14/2?
What did you end up doing?
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I am not sure about your statement concerning the trim rings? The RSL do not have any trim rings. Just cut the hole, wire and pop in the speakers. They use brackets integrated into the speaker housing to clamp to the ceiling material.

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So the RSL C34E speakers are back in stock and I'm thinking I will pull the trigger on them soon. I have a few questions: Are there any rough in brackets that will work with these speakers? The cut says 10-1/8" but most of the rings I see for rough ins have a 10" diameter hole. Will they fit if you just "squeeze" them in a bit? do I need to trim the rings to get them fit before putting them up in the ceiling? Also, I plan on using them for rear surrounds, is having them in the ceiling going to be a bad thing for this? and I was thinking of running a 12/4 or 14/4 CL2 rated speaker wire and splitting it once I get back to the speaker locations. In doing so there will be sections that have the white outer jacket covering the individual speaker wires. Is that a no-no? Should I just run two strands of 12/2 or 14/2?
Fwiw....i bought a c34e and directly tested it against a Micca R-8c and liked the Micca much better (not to mention saved a bunch of money).

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Fwiw....i bought a c34e and directly tested it against a Micca R-8c and liked the Micca much better (not to mention saved a bunch of money).

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Did you do this test with music or home theater?

Wow.....can't believe the cost difference between the two and you ended up keeping the cheaper set!

What was the difference between the two sets in your listening comparison?
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Did you do this test with music or home theater?

Wow.....can't believe the cost difference between the two and you ended up keeping the cheaper set!

What was the difference between the two sets in your listening comparison?
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...icca-r-8c.html
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Did you do this test with music or home theater?



Wow.....can't believe the cost difference between the two and you ended up keeping the cheaper set!



What was the difference between the two sets in your listening comparison?
Music and movies.

I made and posted a review on here somewhere...

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I got the DI 8R's for 179 per and they sound great.
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Music and movies.

I made and posted a review on here somewhere...
Yes, that'd be here....

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...icca-r-8c.html

It's a nice review too!
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I got the DI 8R's for 179 per and they sound great.

I don't see a DI 8R on their site?

https://originacoustics.com/speaker-details/
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I don't see a DI 8R on their site?

https://originacoustics.com/speaker-details/
No, that's a Definitive Technology speaker. I have these too, and I think they do just fine. They blend well with me other two unmatched speaker brands....

https://www.definitivetechnology.com/products/di-8r

No need to pay that MSRP.....

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