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View Poll Results: Have You Installed Dolby Atmos?
Yes, with Atmos-enabled speakers 30 6.01%
Yes, with Atmos-enabled add-on modules 37 7.41%
Yes, with speakers on/in the ceiling 250 50.10%
Yes, with an Atmos soundbar 5 1.00%
No, but I plan to 116 23.25%
No, but I plan to use another 3D immersive sound format 3 0.60%
No, I never plan to install 3D immersive sound 58 11.62%
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post #31 of 110 Old 06-22-2018, 03:39 PM
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I’m currently in the realm of 7.2. I really enjoy my current system and wasn’t sure if I should even consider Atmos until I heard some Atmos demos in Ralph Potts’ theater. Now I’m chomping at the bit to get two Atmos speakers and put them in/on my cieling for a 7.2.2 setup but I want to add an amp to my system before I do so because I just don’t think that a single AVR will be able to adequately power 9 speakers.

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TL;DR don't upgrade to Atmos/DTS:X unless you can install or hang speakers onto the ceiling.

I have Atmos enabled speakers (the DT A60, easily the worst speakers I have ever owned and the worst AV purchase I have ever made). I have heard several ceiling bounce vs. in/on ceiling Atmos/DTS:X setups. Spatial audio is legit, it is the biggest audio upgrade since 2.0 to 5.1.

But here's the kicker: I have NEVER heard a ceiling bounce setup that sounds better or even as good as an in/on ceiling setup. Unless you can install speakers in or on the ceiling, don't bother with ceiling bounce, it's a waste of time and money. I have a set of old HKTS1 satellite speakers that I am in the process of hanging four onto my ceiling and getting rid of those awful A60s that I have now.
I am very happy with my A90 that came with my BP9080 towers. I also have ceiling speakers for rear heights. I read on here that A90 was the solution to all problems from A60
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stuck some spare polk rm101s on the ceiling for a 5.2.2 system in a small room; glorious little sound sphere
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Is it worth it?

What I would really like to know is of the people who have installed it in their home if they would do it again. I haven't had a ton of exposure to Atmos but from what I heard in theatres, I wasn't that impressed to be honest. I have heard that it really comes down to how the audio was generated and whether it was done properly or a hack job. But on that note, how many movies actually have good tracks where you get the full experience? Did you get the value you imagined out of your additional atmos speakers?

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Have been invested in Atmos 5.2.4 (in ceiling) over two years now with absolutely no regrets. Once installed and set up properly, the immersive experience cannot be equaled by prior configurations...period!

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If only I could get Atmos on my 2016 LG OLED

I would like Atmos but I cannot find a way to get it for my 2016 LG OLED. Any information especially regarding a soundbar model that would allow Atmos for my LG OLED would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Sorry but considering so many setups consist of the stuff you acquire at a Best Buy or like its not even a contest if you got real good speaker system, fronts matched to surround speakers that completely fill the room with appropriate imaging and reverb, not to mention great subwoofers.

Yes you can have a darn good Atmos system but loosely comparing 7.1 to 5.1.4 is IMHO a vague argument.
My comment assumes adequate equipment and proper placement / set up. And is just my opinion.
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What I would really like to know is of the people who have installed it in their home if they would do it again.
Yup. I have Atmos in my living room now and will definitely install Atmos in my dedicated room, assuming I ever get off my a$$ and finish it.
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I would like Atmos but I cannot find a way to get it for my 2016 LG OLED. Any information especially regarding a soundbar model that would allow Atmos for my LG OLED would be appreciated. Thanks.
You need an AVR capable of passing Atmos, a source capable of playing Atmos, like a 4K blu ray player or Xbox One (for Netflix), and speakers set up at least close to Dolby specs. I don't know anything about soundbars.
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You need an AVR capable of passing Atmos, a source capable of playing Atmos, like a 4K blu ray player or Xbox One (for Netflix), and speakers set up at least close to Dolby specs. I don't know anything about soundbars.
The problem I think is that LG after 2 years has still not provided a firmware update for the 2016 OLEDs that allow for Atmos or 4K passthrough the HDMI ARC ports, unless I stand corrected.
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The problem I think is that LG after 2 years has still not provided a firmware update for the 2016 OLEDs that allow for Atmos or 4K passthrough the HDMI ARC ports, unless I stand corrected.
I have a 2016 Oled and you are correct. But ARC is hideous anyways. The best solution is just to not use ARC. You don't need ARC to get Atmos; the one and only thing you can't get, at least right now, without ARC passing Atmos is Dolby Vision and Atmos at the same time on Netflix. But that problem should be solved when Apple TV gets its Atmos update.
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I have a 2016 Oled and you are correct. But ARC is hideous anyways. The best solution is just to not use ARC. You don't need ARC to get Atmos; the one and only thing you can't get, at least right now, without ARC passing Atmos is Dolby Vision and Atmos at the same time on Netflix. But that problem should be solved when Apple TV gets its Atmos update.
Thanks for the confirmation. I am really looking for a Atmos soundbar where I can play 4K .mkv files encoded with Atmos through my LG's USB port and then have the soundbar process and decode the Atmos metadata out. I am not sure how to do this if the ARC port on the LG does not allow for passthrough though.
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I have heard several 7.1 systems over the years. Some were set-up better than others and sounded great but were never a substantial upgrade over my old 5.1 Dolby Digital/DTS setup. I haven't heard many Atmos setups but my measly 5.1.2 setup blows away any 7.1 setup I have ever heard. I was over at one person's house that has a 7.2.4 setup and was disappointed. I think it stems from his height speakers mounted on the wall higher than his fronts and rears instead of the recommended angles from seating Dolby recommends. Even with the Atmos speaker layout listening to old blu-ray DTS 5.1 and using DTS Neural:X upmixing is a big improvement. As someone said earlier in this thread, I agree and feel Atmos is the biggest audio upgrade since 5.1 from 2.0.
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I think it stems from his height speakers mounted on the wall higher than his fronts and rears instead of the recommended angles from seating Dolby recommends.
Getting the speakers placed at the right angles with good separation between the overheads and ear-level speakers and per Dolby's installation guidelines is key, much more so than than the brand and price of the gear (although great gear sure doesn't hurt. )
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Thanks for the confirmation. I am really looking for a Atmos soundbar where I can play 4K .mkv files encoded with Atmos through my LG's USB port and then have the soundbar process and decode the Atmos metadata out. I am not sure how to do this if the ARC port on the LG does not allow for passthrough though.
Can't help, sorry, I hope someone has an answer for you.
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Not yet, but we're planning/hoping on getting an Atmos system up before the end of the year.

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Getting the speakers placed at the right angles with good separation between the overheads and ear-level speakers and per Dolby's installation guidelines is key, much more so than than the brand and price of the gear (although great gear sure doesn't hurt. )
Speaking of which, I feel stupid for not understanding one thing about the Dolby guidelines. Are the height speakers supposed to be pointed directly at the main listening position?
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Not yet, but we're planning/hoping on getting an Atmos system up before the end of the year.



Speaking of which, I feel stupid for not understanding one thing about the Dolby guidelines. Are the height speakers supposed to be pointed directly at the main listening position?
Whatever the speaker position, you want the speaker aimed such that the MLP is within the speaker's dispersion pattern such that you get a good FR at the MLP. I run in-ceilings with aimable tweeters pointed toward the MLP. I have read that others have in-celings where the whole speaker pivots to point to the MLP. If the dispersion pattern is broad enough you don't necessarily need to aim it. I can tell you though from playing with the tweeter in my set up that the more direct path the speaker has to the MLP the better the effect, especially with the more directional higher frequencies.
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Whatever the speaker position, you want the speaker aimed such that the MLP is within the speaker's dispersion pattern such that you get a good FR at the MLP.
I was thinking that, but wasn't entirely sure. Thank you for putting it into simple words. Dolby should be taking notes from you.
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I have had 7.2.4 in my dedicated theater for about a 1.5 years and do consider it an upgrade over the 7.1 I had for many years, The ATMOS demo disc's sound amazing but unfortunately most content from movies is very poor in comparison. I don't have a UHD setup at this point and with many content providers not providing an ATMOS track on Blu Ray is very disappointing. I thing a large reason 3D failed is no one used it to its full potential and with so much poor content why bother. I would say in a dedicated space ATMOS is worth the upgrade but in compromised rooms that are less then ideal put your money in better hardware.
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I have been running 9.1.6 with on ceiling speakers for over a year now. The Matrix UHD is the best movie to date for immersive sound.

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Upgraded my 5.2 system to a 5.2.4 atmos rig about 2 months ago. Updated my Marantz 7701 to a 7703 and using 4 Klispch HT500 speakers I had left over from a older HT install, I mounted them on the ceiling facing down driven by a pair of 20+ yo Adcom 535 II amps..
I wasn't expecting as big a improvement as I got. Using atmos encoded discrete bluray's the result is amazing with the best material. I am totally satified with the results and feel it well worth the cost of updating.
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I am 100% satisfied with my Atmos set up, it's a huge improvement from my previous 5.1 set - up. My current set-up is 5.1.4, Marantz 7011, an Oppo 203, B&W speakers and an Anthem 1080 projector (essentially a JVC). Since many blu rays don't come with Atmos, I use the UHD disc on the Oppo and downscale to 1080. I might have a slight downgrade in picture quality, but it's worth it to get the Atmos soundtrack.
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Very satisfied with my 5.4.4 Atmos setup with 4 JBL SCS-8 (same as many theaters) for heights, works well with the 5 MartinLogans, 2 subs + 2 MBMs in a dedicated HT. Pre is the Marantz 8802A.

Immersive sound for movies is pretty cool, and definitely is preferred to just 5.1. But the big surprise is just how good a job the Dolby Surround Upmixer (DSU) does with music!
When the Music DSU is engaged many modern 2ch recording are almost as good as dedicated multichannel mixes, which is very cool. And I have hundreds of Mch mixes in my collection, so that's quite the compliment to DSU.

I pretty much play all content with DSU (Movie mode for movies, Music mode for Music), it really is that good.

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Who hear thinks 7.1 is worth it over 5.1.4
5.x.4 is more impactful than 7.x.0, no doubt.

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Not even that close, IMO. 7.1 is a slight improvement over 5.1, but, properly set up, 5.1.4 is a substantial improvement over both 5.1 and 7.1.
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Have been invested in Atmos 5.2.4 (in ceiling) over two years now with absolutely no regrets. Once installed and set up properly, the immersive experience cannot be equaled by prior configurations...period!
My only regret shall be if I am ever forced to relocate and not be able to set up at minimum a 5.2.4 system in a new environment!

I started with 3.1.0 - which can be very nice actually. Then I went to 5.1.0. New dimension, no question. Then onto 5.2.0 - REALLY recommend duals - this was a very nice improvement. Then came 5.2.4 - with the right content, WHOA. Seriously, a new dimension. Last, 7.2.4. Yes, an incremental upgrade, but again, with the right content, they can play an important role.

I'll recommend the whole kit and kaboodle to anybody that will bother listening to me......
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I am 100% satisfied with my Atmos set up, it's a huge improvement from my previous 5.1 set - up. My current set-up is 5.1.4, Marantz 7011, an Oppo 203, B&W speakers and an Anthem 1080 projector (essentially a JVC). Since many blu rays don't come with Atmos, I use the UHD disc on the Oppo and downscale to 1080. I might have a slight downgrade in picture quality, but it's worth it to get the Atmos soundtrack.
My new Oppo will play UHD but my projector is 1080p , so is good to know I can downscale the and still get the Atmos , I never really thought about that .

What is (are ) the best UHD disks for Atmos ?

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The Matrix
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Nuts. I have this on DVD and recently bought it on blu ray (just before the UHD disc came out). I really don't want to buy it again, but now I guess I have to.
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Nuts. I have this on DVD and recently bought it on blu ray (just before the UHD disc came out). I really don't want to buy it again, but now I guess I have to.
It's worth it.
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To the guys who are using in ceiling speakers for atmos, what exact brand/model of speakers have you installed?

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house came installed with ceiling speakers which were almost perfectly set up for Atmos, so added a couple of surrounds and had 5.1.4 pretty easily

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