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post #91 of 154 Old 12-22-2018, 04:27 AM
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Flip flopping on Kanto YU2 and Kef Eggs - I will make a decision soon lol


Any musical subwoofers you'd recommend? I like the BasX8 for it's size but I'm not sure it's the best choice. Maye it's just me but I prefer my sealed Infinity Kappa 12" @ 800w in my car. Obviously the output is much more but I feel like it's tighter.


I can always default to the BasX8 if I have to but I'm sure there are much much better choices that I just don't know about.


I also don't want anyone to think I simply ignored the speaker choices that were suggested - had my room not had a null bass spot, this thread would have been over a long time ago and I would have had my 2 channel sound that I wanted. Thank you all again, I've learnt a lot and am using this thread as a reference for later in life (or when I move).
I love the KEF Egg speakers I have for my workbench at my job. I also have a KEF Kube 10b at home for my home office setup of KEF LS50's on my desk. Stunning sub, and the DSP plus their internal bass extension control makes all the difference in the world.

For my workplace KEF Egg setup I picked up a used Totem Dreamcatcher sub for $130. I do have to have a little repair done to the amp that'll cost me about $70 but well worth it. It won't come close to what my Kube 10b does, but definitely fills out much of the lower frequencies that Egg speakers just can't do. What I like about the Egg is how easy it is to use on the desktop together with the work computer.

The IT department at work doesn't allow anyone to install non-work related apps, so I can't run the Tidal app. I did get them to install the Google Chrome and can stream Tidal that way. The HiFi does use a lot of bandwidth so to "keep a low profile" on internet use, I brought in my 478GB of music on a USB drive. I plugged that into the PC, configured Windows Media Player to automatically find it. Now with the "mixer" I can select to have all or just some sounds come through the Egg speakers. Working great, and not violating any company policies.

I chose the KEF Egg because KEF's co-incident Uni-Q driver is the ideal near-field speaker. This has proven out at the home office, and folks at work have been shocked at what comes out of those little blue orbs. The customer support team at KEF is also important to have should there ever be a problem, and they've got a history of being among the best in the business.
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Kef Kube 10 is $598CAD at visions


Is this comparable to the Totem Kin? $500 @ bay bloor radio


Both damn expense but yea - especially if I end up buying the kef eggs, I'm at $1200 plus tax!! or I could just buy the Kanto YU2 and a BasX8 lol


White Kef Eggs with White Totem Kin - so pretty
The kube 10 will destroy the totem kin .

Its been compared directly with the svs sb2000 from a few members here and was preferred.

They also have the kube 8 for $400 but it only has extension to 34hz.

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As KenM10759 mentioned, check out the used scene on ebay, CL, whatever for a good, used 8" sub. I have my Eggs paired with a Sunfire SDS8 at work and have a Mirage S8 in my home office system. Both were had for under $150 each. I actually really like the old Mirage Omni subs and feel they are more on the musical side even though they are ported. They are very tight and accurate in my opinion, with no bloat. Both go down to the 30 Hz range which would be more than enough for music.
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OP, curious why you chose the Kanto YU2 over the YU4. Was it mostly for space? The Kef Egg has a 4" woofer similar to the YU4. What is your opinion on the two speakers you have so far?

Also, what price range are you looking for in a subwoofer? Ported or sealed? The SVS PB-1000 (ported) and SB-1000 (sealed) are pretty good entry level subwoofers.
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OP, curious why you chose the Kanto YU2 over the YU4. Was it mostly for space? The Kef Egg has a 4" woofer similar to the YU4. What is your opinion on the two speakers you have so far?

Also, what price range are you looking for in a subwoofer? Ported or sealed? The SVS PB-1000 (ported) and SB-1000 (sealed) are pretty good entry level subwoofers.
Kef kube 10 is cheaper and better than the SB1000 and some argue better than the sb2000

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OP, curious why you chose the Kanto YU2 over the YU4. Was it mostly for space? The Kef Egg has a 4" woofer similar to the YU4. What is your opinion on the two speakers you have so far?

Also, what price range are you looking for in a subwoofer? Ported or sealed? The SVS PB-1000 (ported) and SB-1000 (sealed) are pretty good entry level subwoofers.
I chose the YU2 solely for space reasons. I also chose them because they are Canadian made and provide a 2 yr warranty. It erks me so hard seeing a $600 price tag for the kef egg and only getting a 1 yr warranty - it actually disgusts me (not to sound rude, but it's straight up insulting).

I still would obviously rather have the eggs due to sound and sheer beauty...

Sub budget is best bang for buck that lunks hard. I find it hard to justify $599 for a kef kube 10 but if it's THAT good AND it's pretty small - I may actually purchase it - but I may looked for used.

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The sub I linked above will blow the Kef away, and for less. Food for thought

Edit: I am unsure what's required to get one to Canada, but there are some Canadians that have them.

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The sub I linked above will blow the Kef away, and for less. Food for thought [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

Edit: I am unsure what's required to get one to Canada, but there are some Canadians that have them.
Its also aBout $300 more CDN

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The sub I linked above will blow the Kef away, and for less. Food for thought [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

Edit: I am unsure what's required to get one to Canada, but there are some Canadians that have them.
It would be interesting to compare them. I'm a huge rythmik fan but from what I have read (feedback / comparison) the Kube 10 blows away the SVS SB2000 so i wouldnt be surprised if they perform Closely

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Its also aBout $300 more CDN
Really? I looked it up before I posted that. It's $599 USD @ Crutchfield. More than Rythmik L12. If you opt for white gloss, then there is only a $20 difference.

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It would be interesting to compare them. I'm a huge rythmik fan but from what I have read (feedback / comparison) the Kube 10 blows away the SVS SB2000 so i wouldnt be surprised if they perform Closely
The Kube 10 is -6dB at 24Hz. I don't know about the SVS, but the L12 is -6dB at 12Hz. In other words, it extends an entire octave lower, and will sound more detailed.

I just want people to get the best bang for the buck. I'm not sure if being north of the border changes things, but if it's possible, it's obvious which one is superior.

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Yamaha makes more affordable servo subwoofers, I have no experience with them however.

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...o-black/1.html

Out of stock at the moment
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It would be interesting to compare them. I'm a huge rythmik fan but from what I have read (feedback / comparison) the Kube 10 blows away the SVS SB2000 so i wouldnt be surprised if they perform Closely
The Kube 10 is -6dB at 24Hz. I don't know about the SVS, but the L12 is -6dB at 12Hz. In other words, it extends an entire octave lower, and will sound more detailed.

I just want people to get the best bang for the buck. I'm not sure if being north of the border changes things, but if it's possible, it's obvious which one is superior.
I meant more in terms of SQ , just some feedback I read from people prefering the kube 10 over the sb2000 .

The kube 10 is $598 CDN + free shipping atm
Rythmik L12 is $733 CDN + shipping (most likely around $100-$150 CDN)

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It would be interesting to compare them. I'm a huge rythmik fan but from what I have read (feedback / comparison) the Kube 10 blows away the SVS SB2000 so i wouldnt be surprised if they perform Closely
The Kube 10 is -6dB at 24Hz. I don't know about the SVS, but the L12 is -6dB at 12Hz. In other words, it extends an entire octave lower, and will sound more detailed.

I just want people to get the best bang for the buck. I'm not sure if being north of the border changes things, but if it's possible, it's obvious which one is superior.
I meant more in terms of SQ , just some feedback I read from people prefering the kube 10 over the sb2000 .

The kube 10 is $598 CDN + free shipping atm
Rythmik L12 is $733 CDN + shipping (most likely around $100-$150 CDN)
Ouch. That certainly can change things.

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The Kube 10 is -6dB at 24Hz. I don't know about the SVS, but the L12 is -6dB at 12Hz. In other words, it extends an entire octave lower, and will sound more detailed.

I just want people to get the best bang for the buck. I'm not sure if being north of the border changes things, but if it's possible, it's obvious which one is superior.
Actually, the KEF Kube 10b spec is 24hz +/-3dB, not 6dB. It does seem to dig deeper than that too. The 3-position switch for DSP helps get the most out of it depending upon proximity to walls, a corner, or in a cabinet.

And BTW, Rythmik subs are good, but I've seen test graphs that show their numbers can be a bit optimistic.

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It would be interesting to compare them. I'm a huge rythmik fan but from what I have read (feedback / comparison) the Kube 10 blows away the SVS SB2000 so i wouldnt be surprised if they perform Closely
The Kube 10 is -6dB at 24Hz. I don't know about the SVS, but the L12 is -6dB at 12Hz. In other words, it extends an entire octave lower, and will sound more detailed.

I just want people to get the best bang for the buck. I'm not sure if being north of the border changes things, but if it's possible, it's obvious which one is superior.
I meant more in terms of SQ , just some feedback I read from people prefering the kube 10 over the sb2000 .

The kube 10 is $598 CDN + free shipping atm
Rythmik L12 is $733 CDN + shipping (most likely around $100-$150 CDN)
Ouch. That certainly can change things.
Sb2000 is roughly $1000 CDN lol the rythmik is still a steal imo .

Rythmik, Outlaw amd PSA will all ship to Canada for reasonable prices .

Just to put things in perspective the klipsch R-115sw is $1350 here lmao!

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The Kube 10 is -6dB at 24Hz. I don't know about the SVS, but the L12 is -6dB at 12Hz. In other words, it extends an entire octave lower, and will sound more detailed.

I just want people to get the best bang for the buck. I'm not sure if being north of the border changes things, but if it's possible, it's obvious which one is superior.
Actually, the KEF Kube 10b spec is 24hz +/-3dB, not 6dB. It does seem to dig deeper than that too. The 3-position switch for DSP helps get the most out of it depending upon proximity to walls, a corner, or in a cabinet.

And BTW, Rythmik subs are good, but I've seen test graphs that show their numbers can be a bit optimistic.
Is Crutchfield's info incorrect?

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frequency response: 24-140 Hz (-6 dB)
built-in Class D amplifier delivers 300 watts RMS of continuous power
custom-designed 10" woofer
acoustic suspension (sealed) cabinet design
iBX (Intelligent Bass Extension) digital signal processing provides deep, dynamic bass at any listening level
3 placement presets (free-standing, in-cabinet, or corner) let you choose your sub's location for optimal bass performance
variable low-pass crossover (40-140 Hz)
phase control switch (0°/180&#176
line-level/LFE RCA inputs
main power on/off switch plus auto standby/on mode
detachable power cord
13-15/16"W x 14-5/8"H x 14-5/8"D
weight: 38.5 lbs.
warranty: 5 years woofer, 2 years amplifier

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Is Crutchfield's info incorrect?

Product Highlights:
frequency response: 24-140 Hz (-6 dB)
built-in Class D amplifier delivers 300 watts RMS of continuous power
custom-designed 10" woofer
acoustic suspension (sealed) cabinet design
iBX (Intelligent Bass Extension) digital signal processing provides deep, dynamic bass at any listening level
3 placement presets (free-standing, in-cabinet, or corner) let you choose your sub's location for optimal bass performance
variable low-pass crossover (40-140 Hz)
phase control switch (0°/180&#176
line-level/LFE RCA inputs
main power on/off switch plus auto standby/on mode
detachable power cord
13-15/16"W x 14-5/8"H x 14-5/8"D
weight: 38.5 lbs.
warranty: 5 years woofer, 2 years amplifier
That's not what KEF's website publishes, and I tend to believe KEF.
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Also, what price range are you looking for in a subwoofer? Ported or sealed? The SVS PB-1000 (ported) and SB-1000 (sealed) are pretty good entry level subwoofers.

Subwoofer price range is around $500 - but if I can get something great and used on ebay for $150 - I will choose that instead.


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OP, curious why you chose the Kanto YU2 over the YU4. Was it mostly for space? The Kef Egg has a 4" woofer similar to the YU4. What is your opinion on the two speakers you have so far?

Exactly - I was looking at the YU2 simply for space....and let me tell you, I really dislike these speakers. I quickly hooked them up to my phone as I was eager to try them out due to the rave reviews and price being half that of the Kef Eggs and I was thoroughly disappointed.



The high bass was just so loud and artificial sounding - it's like they are trying to be speakers that they are not. Very boomy and I feel like I would get a headache after listening to these for long.


When I really cranked them to a loud, but enjoyable, listening level (which I often do) I heard some pretty bad distortion, serious port noise and just so much mid-high bass. I opened up my 5 point EQ on my music app and brought the 60Hz and 230Hz straight down to zero and has much more happy with the sound. They were no longer trying to pretend to be a bigger speaker. If they were $150 I would be more inclined to keep them, but at $289 + tax, no way.


Those damn Kef Eggs are just so ridiculous in price for something with a one year warranty...

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Subwoofer price range is around $500 - but if I can get something great and used on ebay for $150 - I will choose that instead.

Exactly - I was looking at the YU2 simply for space....and let me tell you, I really dislike these speakers. I quickly hooked them up to my phone as I was eager to try them out due to the rave reviews and price being half that of the Kef Eggs and I was thoroughly disappointed.

The high bass was just so loud and artificial sounding - it's like they are trying to speakers that they are not. Very boomy and I feel like I would get a headache after listening to these for long.

When I really cranked them to a loud, but enjoyable, listening level (which I often do) I heard some pretty bad distortion, serious port noise and just so much mid-high bass. I opened up my 5 point EQ on my music app and brought the 60Hz and 230Hz straight down to zero and has much more happy with the sound. They were no longer trying to pretend to be a bigger speaker. If they were $150 I would be more inclined to keep them, but at $289 + tax, no way.

Those damn Kef Eggs are just so ridiculous in price for something with a one year warranty...
If anything is going to go wrong with the KEF Egg, it's far more likely going to happen within the first couple minutes or hours, not 2.5 years into it.

I got mine as "open box" for 1/2 price (US $250) and don't know if you can get a deal like that.

I had concerns buying mine, but can tell you now it's been pure musical bliss!

I should mention that a friend of mine bought a pair about 3 or 4 years ago. He uses them as his living room speakers for jazz and other music, with an SVS SB2000 sub. No issues, though I know the room is far too large for them and he has them cranked close to max most of the time. Still no problems.
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Sb2000 is roughly $1000 CDN lol the rythmik is still a steal imo .

Rythmik, Outlaw amd PSA will all ship to Canada for reasonable prices .

Just to put things in perspective the klipsch R-115sw is $1350 here lmao!

I think you mean the Kef Kube 10 @ $600 CAD is a steal? Or are you saying the Rythmik is that much better and worth the extra $200?


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If anything is going to go wrong with the KEF Egg, it's far more likely going to happen within the first couple minutes or hours, not 2.5 years into it.

I got mine as "open box" for 1/2 price (US $250) and don't know if you can get a deal like that.

I had concerns buying mine, but can tell you now it's been pure musical bliss!

I should mention that a friend of mine bought a pair about 3 or 4 years ago. He uses them as his living room speakers for jazz and other music, with an SVS SB2000 sub. No issues, though I know the room is far too large for them and he has them cranked close to max most of the time. Still no problems.

The Eggs will be be my final go to but there has to be another way. Are there no other satellite speakers out there that I can grab that solely play mids and highs? The Kanto YU2 were aweful and I won't even bother with AudioEngine a2+. I am even contemplating getting a small flat amp with a volume knob and under mounting it on my desk with passive speakers - that way if the power source breaks, I'm out $150-$200 instead of $600 as the amp is built into the speakers. Those NHT SuperZeros come to mind, but something smaller and prettier would be preferred.


Like I said the Kef Eggs are a last resort but seem to be surefire.

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I think you mean the Kef Kube 10 @ $600 CAD is a steal? Or are you saying the Rythmik is that much better and worth the extra $200?





The Eggs will be be my final go to but there has to be another way. Are there no other satellite speakers out there that I can grab that solely play mids and highs? The Kanto YU2 were aweful and I won't even bother with AudioEngine a2+. I am even contemplating getting a small flat amp with a volume knob and under mounting it on my desk with passive speakers - that way if the power source breaks, I'm out $150-$200 instead of $600 as the amp is built into the speakers. Those NHT SuperZeros come to mind, but something smaller and prettier would be preferred.


Like I said the Kef Eggs are a last resort but seem to be surefire.
I haven't heard either i'm just going on user feedback. But for PC use the Kube 10 would be more than enough imo, this is what i plan on replacing my BIC H-100 II with(if i can get it for $600 CAD).

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Quick thought for anyone still listening lol...


What about the Paradigm Mellenia CT 2? I read a crutchfield review stating that this is better than the Kef Eggs, granted it was one review, but it was a direct comparison to the Kef Eggs. I would hope the reviewer is comparing the satellite speakers (apples to apples) and not the whole system to the Kef Eggs - that's not fair at all



The cost of this is $650 CAD at Gibby's.

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Needing a white speaker severely limits your choices. Is painting an option?

Mackie MR524 will sound better than the Audioengine A5 you were looking at. And the KEF EGG.

I have the MR624 at my desk, and they are the most "complete" speaker I can think of - extending to 38Hz, they don't need a sub. However they are a bit large so I'm thinking about downsizing to the 524 and adding a sub.

They are made for nearfield use (but also fill a room) and sound really good.

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Merry Christmas everyone!


Has anyone tried the PSB Alpha PS1 powered speakers? Getting these plus a DAC would cost the same as the Eggs.



I've spoken to Crutchfield and was advised that the Kef Eggs aren't exciting, they're great, do the job - but lack a wow factor.

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Has anyone tried the PSB Alpha PS1 powered speakers? Getting these plus a DAC would cost the same as the Eggs.



I've spoken to Crutchfield and was advised that the Kef Eggs aren't exciting, they're great, do the job - but lack a wow factor.
That's their opinion. Mine, to me, have it. They have a DAC. While a friend of mine does use his in their living room with an SB2000 sub for 2-channel jazz, mine are used as desktop (workbench top, actually) monitors. With a sub, incredible for the $250 I paid, worth the $300 they're selling for, though not the $500 list.

The coincident Uni-Q driver is their key to sounding so good.

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Needing a white speaker severely limits your choices. Is painting an option?

Mackie MR524 will sound better than the Audioengine A5 you were looking at. And the KEF EGG.

I have the MR624 at my desk, and they are the most "complete" speaker I can think of - extending to 38Hz, they don't need a sub. However they are a bit large so I'm thinking about downsizing to the 524 and adding a sub.

They are made for nearfield use (but also fill a room) and sound really good.

Funny you mention that - I honestly thought of painting speakers. Use some BIN shellac as primer, paint them and then a coat of clear on top.


BTW I would have purchased the Mackies or the JBL 305P already if it wasn't for my damn null bass zone right in my desk chair. I'm looking for something that doesn't produce any low ends. I'm now looking at the PSB Alpha PS1 for $400 (which I've read sound amazing) but would need to but a DAC for an additional $200... (this equals the price of Kef Eggs)



I think I might just re-purchase the NHT SuperZeros and the SMSL AD18 Amp again and call it day (and go look for a subwoofer). These speakers were small (I wish they were smaller) and they played well for the 4 hours I played them - no distortion, which was a real problem in my null bass zone.


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The coincident Uni-Q driver is their key to sounding so good.

Agree 1000%. Although I've never heard them, that's what I've determined from all the articles I've read - the Uni-Q is the key with these and they can be placed anywhere.



So, for me, I have to pay $599 for these speakers - Perhaps I should have mentioned that earlier, this is why I've kept coming back here to discuss; I don't have it in me to pull the trigger at that price. My previous post mentioned I will probably go back to NHT SuperOne with an Amazon amp (and then a sub)

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I understand the bass issues, I have a problem with that at my desk as well. However, if you're worried that a bass driver would be "wasted", consider that a bass driver in a speaker of this class is usually crossed over to a sub between 80-100Hz and to a tweeter at around 1500Hz. I would feel much better with a speaker with a capable bass driver, as I have my doubts that some of these really small systems will perform well around a typical subwoofer crossover, and your midbass (80-200Hz or so) will suffer. Would a white ELAC Uni-Fi UB5 fit the bill? Or still too big? Sorry if that was mentioned already - can't skim the whole thread at work.

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I understand the bass issues, I have a problem with that at my desk as well. However, if you're worried that a bass driver would be "wasted", consider that a bass driver in a speaker of this class is usually crossed over to a sub between 80-100Hz and to a tweeter at around 1500Hz. I would feel much better with a speaker with a capable bass driver, as I have my doubts that some of these really small systems will perform well around a typical subwoofer crossover, and your midbass (80-200Hz or so) will suffer. Would a white ELAC Uni-Fi UB5 fit the bill? Or still too big? Sorry if that was mentioned already - can't skim the whole thread at work.

No worries - it's a long a$$ thread because I'm cheap and there's no "30 day trials" in Canada. Yea the ELACs are actually too big.



I've settled on speakers - I repurchased the NHT SuperZeros, even though they are at the top of my size limit. I purchased the SMSL AD18 again as well.


I don't want to spend $600 on a sub-woofer (although I know I will be satisfied with the Kube 10b). I'm open to any other recommendations that would pair well with these NHT SuperZero's and any advice on how to match a sub to speakers without hearing it first. (Am willing to go used off canuckaudiomart.com)

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