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How Should I Upgrade My Desktop HiFi System?

First post in this category so please go easy on me. I'm a novice audiophile and am interested in upgrading my desktop system (this weekend while there are some nice deals if possible).

Below I will outline my current setup. I mostly listen to HDTracks downloads and ripped CD's. I use iTunes + BitPerfect to play the ALAC files. I don't have any set budget, just curious if anyone sees a weak link in my setup.

Current Desktop Setup from source to speaker:
iMac (iTunes + BitPerfect + ALAC Files)
Schitt Modi 2Uber (connected via USB)
Schiit Asgard 2
AudioEngine A5+ (RCA from Asgard) / Sennheiser HD650 (front headphone jack from Asgard)

Appreciate any and all inputs / ideas!
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The speakers are the weak link until you hit about ~$1500/pair, then it's diminishing returns from there. Kef LS50, Revel M105 are two excellent pairs of speakers for nearfield listening that both have very wide and uniform sound. Ascend Acoustics Luna is quite good as well, but more sensitive to height due to the physics of a ribbon tweeter. For powered, I heard the Kef LSX at my local Best Buy and it's quite good, just like a bass-restricted LS50W. Genelecs are quite good as well.

Then you should look into investing into room correction, get a UMIK-1 mic and a Minidsp DiracLive kit or run REW, or if you have powered speakers that come with their room correction system (like Genelec does) make sure to run that.

Finally, depending on your music tastes and/or living situation (apartment vs house) you may or may not want a subwoofer, or some other bass supplement device (butt kickers/subpac m2).

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Upwards of $1500 on DESKTOP speakers? I'd think you'd hit diminishing returns well before that price point.

For a realistic upgrade have you considered adding a subwoofer? That would help flesh out the lower end, especially with 5" speakers like the A5+.
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Upwards of $1500 on DESKTOP speakers? I'd think you'd hit diminishing returns well before that price point.

For a realistic upgrade have you considered adding a subwoofer? That would help flesh out the lower end, especially with 5" speakers like the A5+.
In the farfield you are listening more to the room, whereas in the nearfield you are listening much more to the uncorrected true response of a speaker. To me the differences between speakers are far more obvious in the nearfield, (and in that vein, listening to headphones is even easier to make a qualitative judgment between transducers) than sitting in a movie theater distance where SPLs and power compression become a much bigger part of the sound equation.
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In the farfield you are listening more to the room, whereas in the nearfield you are listening much more to the uncorrected true response of a speaker. To me the differences between speakers are far more obvious in the nearfield than sitting in a movie theater distance where SPLs and power compression become a much bigger part of the sound equation.
You don't have to spend upwards of $1500 to get a great sounding pair of nearfield speakers.
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You don't have to spend upwards of $1500 to get a great sounding pair of nearfield speakers.
I get the sense that you are trying to argue with a strawman.
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I get the sense that you are trying to argue with a strawman.
No, I'm simply saying in my opinion diminishing returns start well below $1500.
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No, I'm simply saying in my opinion diminishing returns start well below $1500.

I’m going to have to agree with this. My opinion is that anything above $1000 is where that mark is. If not lower.

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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I was looking st the KEF LS50 but am curious to know if they’d be a solid and noticeable difference over my A5+’s. I believe they would be.

The other thing is if I go with the LS50’s I’d need a different amplifier, as my current Schiit Asgard is just a headphone amp. Any Asgard replacement suggestions that can power great speakers and my Sennheiser 650’s?
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Below I will outline my current setup. I mostly listen to HDTracks downloads and ripped CD's. I use iTunes + BitPerfect to play the ALAC files. I don't have any set budget, just curious if anyone sees a weak link in my setup.

Current Desktop Setup from source to speaker:
iMac (iTunes + BitPerfect + ALAC Files)
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AudioEngine A5+ (RCA from Asgard) / Sennheiser HD650 (front headphone jack from Asgard)
If you're 100% happy with the A5+ then I would add a subwoofer.

This, if budget allows:
https://www.svsound.com/collections/...ducts/sb12-nsd

If not, ELAC sub at Best Buy is currently on sale for around $220 and has room EQ.
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For nearfield, and with a sub, this is would be fantastic for $700/pr and I'd see no reason to spend any more:
http://philharmonicaudio.com/Mini-Monitor.html

But to be honest, you can probably get 90% of that SQ going with $300/pr Emotiva B1s.

That would allow you to get an AVR that has bass management which you'd use with the sub, in the $200-300 range.
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If you're 100% happy with the A5+ then I would add a subwoofer.

This, if budget allows:
https://www.svsound.com/collections/...ducts/sb12-nsd

If not, ELAC sub at Best Buy is currently on sale for around $220 and has room EQ.
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For nearfield, and with a sub, this is would be fantastic for $700/pr and I'd see no reason to spend any more:
http://philharmonicaudio.com/Mini-Monitor.html

But to be honest, you can probably get 90% of that SQ going with $300/pr Emotiva B1s.

That would allow you to get an AVR that has bass management which you'd use with the sub, in the $200-300 range.
Appreciate the input!

I think the main issue I keep running into is my Schiit Asgard 2 isn't an AMP that can power proper speakers. I need a desktop-ready AMP, but there are so many out there I definitely need guidance.

Those speakers look really nice! Though I was hoping for something more mainstream that I could order today/tomorrow from one of the many sites having sales.
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I think the main issue I keep running into is my Schiit Asgard 2 isn't an AMP that can power proper speakers. I need a desktop-ready AMP, but there are so many out there I definitely need guidance. Those speakers look really nice! Though I was hoping for something more mainstream that I could order today/tomorrow from one of the many sites having sales.
If you want something ASAP, I'd just go with the Emotiva B1 and an SVS SB12, for the same cost as the Philharmonic Mini.

Easiest way to go with the amp is get a Class D mini-amp with built in DAC, hooks up to your computer via USB and has plenty of power for desktop usage.
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amp...A2MPJGT5UWECRP

You can probably resell the Schitt gear for at least 50% of what you paid for it on the Head Fi forums...very doubtful you'd hear any difference at all for speaker usage.

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If you want something ASAP, I'd just go with the Emotiva B1 and an SVS SB12, for the same cost as the Philharmonic Mini.

Easiest way to go with the amp is get a Class D mini-amp with built in DAC, hooks up to your computer via USB and has plenty of power for desktop usage.
https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-AD18-Amp...A2MPJGT5UWECRP

You can probably resell the Schitt gear for at least 50% of what you paid for it on the Head Fi forums...very doubtful you'd hear any difference at all for speaker usage.

Excellent, I appreciate the suggestion. In your opinion would that setup excel over my current setup?

I love the look of the LS50’s! Are they not able to work with a Class D mini-amp?
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I use an inexpensive receiver in my office to power speakers and just ordered the SVS SB12-NSD to go with my NHT SuperZero bookshelf speakers. I use a HDMI cable to connect my computer to the receiver. You get a FM radio tuner as a bonus.
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Excellent, I appreciate the suggestion. In your opinion would that setup excel over my current setup?

I love the look of the LS50’s! Are they not able to work with a Class D mini-amp?
The LS50 certainly are nice, cosmetically and acoustically, and would have no problem with that amp. But at $700 the Philharmonic Mini with their RAAL tweeter would easily out-finesse them IMO, and the LS50 would need a subwoofer just as much which would add an extra $300-400. In fact, having heard the LS50 I'm not sure I'd take them over the B1s even though they cost over 3x as much...especially not for nearfield usage.

If you want a RAAL speaker with a 3db roll-off at 45Hz (the LS50's 3db roll-off is 79Hz according to KEF) for just $200 more, I'd look at this:
http://philharmonicaudio.com/New%20Philharmonitor.html
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http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages...SRM2/srm2.html

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I think the ribbons have a narrower vertical dispersion, which makes them a good choice on a desk because your reflections off the desk surface are minimized.

I would recommend a good studio monitor instead though, they will be self powered and contain their own active DSP for perfect amp and driver integration.

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Have you considered a studio type powered monitor? Dynaudio makes some really good ones. Still might need a sub but should sound really good near field.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...udio-bm5-mkiii

I should read before posting. Looks like it was just suggested

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Have you considered a studio type powered monitor? Dynaudio makes some really good ones. Still might need a sub but should sound really good near field.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...udio-bm5-mkiii

I should read before posting. Looks like it was just suggested
If I get powered speakers I'd like to be able to get rid of my Schiit gear so its a pure iMac --> all-in-one-speaker setup. Its so hard to determine the best route here.
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If I get powered speakers I'd like to be able to get rid of my Schiit gear so its a pure iMac --> all-in-one-speaker setup. Its so hard to determine the best route here.
You can do that, but keep in mind most powered studio monitors aren't going to have a headphone jack. You'd have find a way to plug your Sennheisers up to your iMac if you want to keep cans part of the setup. I'm assuming here you would be utilizing the 3.5mm headphone jack on the back of your iMac to connect directly to the monitors.

You could go with a pair of multimedia monitors that include a headphone jack built in. These are self powered, but multimedia monitors are usually going to be smaller than the AudioEngines you already own and would most likely be a step down. Like the Mackie CR3 or Presonus Eris E3.5

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You can do that, but keep in mind most powered studio monitors aren't going to have a headphone jack. You'd have find a way to plug your Sennheisers up to your iMac if you want to keep cans part of the setup. I'm assuming here you would be utilizing the 3.5mm headphone jack on the back of your iMac to connect directly to the monitors.

You could go with a pair of multimedia monitors that include a headphone jack built in. These are self powered, but multimedia monitors are usually going to be smaller than the AudioEngines you already own and would most likely be a step down. Like the Mackie CR3 or Presonus Eris E3.5
That's true. Are there any desktop-sized AMPs that could nicely power my Senn's & the LS50's?
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That's true. Are there any desktop-sized AMPs that could nicely power my Senn's & the LS50's?


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OK I went all out and got the LS50 Wireless speakers. Sound spectacular so far! Store I bought them from suggested I upgrade the USB, Power, & Ethernet cables on them.
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OK I went all out and got the LS50 Wireless speakers. Sound spectacular so far! Store I bought them from suggested I upgrade the USB, Power, & Ethernet cables on them.


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OK I went all out and got the LS50 Wireless speakers. Sound spectacular so far! Store I bought them from suggested I upgrade the USB, Power, & Ethernet cables on them.
Greedy ass store just wants more of your $$$ ... did they give you a really good deal on the LS50 and are trying to make up for it? lol
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Greedy ass store just wants more of your $$$ ... did they give you a really good deal on the LS50 and are trying to make up for it? lol
Yes. To be honest the guy seemed pretty bummed about letting them go for that much, I paid cash $1900 out the door.

I had a hard time believing the USB / Ethernet / Power cables included by KEF would be subpar - and if you guys say they aren't worth it I will take your word for it. Should I be plugged into a decent power conditioner/strip though? I'm currently plugged into basic IKEA-style power strips. I live in a high-rise building.
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Yes. To be honest the guy seemed pretty bummed about letting them go for that much, I paid cash $1900 out the door.
That is a pretty good price; Amazon and Music Direct are showing them to be $2K even. I don't think he actually lost money on it though...probably just had a much thinner profit margin than usual.

These are what I use for surge protection on the rec of an electrical engineer friend---very reasonably priced, and hasn't failed me yet.
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That is a pretty good price; Amazon and Music Direct are showing them to be $2K even. I don't think he actually lost money on it though...probably just had a much thinner profit margin than usual.



These are what I use for surge protection on the rec of an electrical engineer friend---very reasonably priced, and hasn't failed me yet.

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That is a pretty good price; Amazon and Music Direct are showing them to be $2K even. I don't think he actually lost money on it though...probably just had a much thinner profit margin than usual.

These are what I use for surge protection on the rec of an electrical engineer friend---very reasonably priced, and hasn't failed me yet.
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Really appreciate the input guys. I'll grab a couple of those.
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That's true. Are there any desktop-sized AMPs that could nicely power my Senn's & the LS50's?

Schitt Fulla 2. I love it!
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