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Splitting Kef Q150 as single rear + center

My current plan for living room is
2X KEF Q150 - Front speaker
1X KEF Q150 - Center
1X KEF Q150 - Single Rear speaker mounted close to ceiling
4X KEF Ci50R - in Ceiling (Drywall)

This is going to be my first setup, trying to stay under budget (all speakers were under ~40% black friday discount) Is this setup Ok?

What would you do differently here? (Should I use a real center speaker, and use 2Xq150's as rear's instead?)
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My current plan for living room is
2X KEF Q150 - Front speaker
1X KEF Q150 - Center
1X KEF Q150 - Single Rear speaker mounted close to ceiling
4X KEF Ci50R - in Ceiling (Drywall)

This is going to be my first setup, trying to stay under budget (all speakers were under ~40% black friday discount) Is this setup Ok?

What would you do differently here? (Should I use a real center speaker, and use 2Xq150's as rear's instead?)
Try the single Q150 as center first and see if it's enough for you. If not, move it to surround duty with the other one, and get a proven performer horizontal center in the $250-350 range (unless you want to get raped for a $650 KEF center just for the sake of the "timbre matching" unicorn).

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Try setting it up as a phantom center first, KEF imaging is superb so it may work out great.

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My current plan for living room is
2X KEF Q150 - Front speaker
1X KEF Q150 - Center
1X KEF Q150 - Single Rear speaker mounted close to ceiling
4X KEF Ci50R - in Ceiling (Drywall)

This is going to be my first setup, trying to stay under budget (all speakers were under ~40% black friday discount) Is this setup Ok?

What would you do differently here? (Should I use a real center speaker, and use 2Xq150's as rear's instead?)
While the Q650c is a little expensive it is a very good speaker, it adds dynamics and gives you a fuller sound. You'll get very clear and detailed sound and dialogue. A single Q150 will work well as a center by providing clear dialogue, but won't have the fullness of sound you'd get with the larger 3 way center. I'm not sure how a single Q150 would work as a surround speaker since it's something I've never considered trying, though I think having L&R surrounds might sound better.

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@Zorba922 Thanks I'm going to give it a try first,
I can arrange an old 2nd hand Q200c Do you think it should perform better vs the (newer) Q150 as a Center?

Also, I have a very old "Wharfedale Topaz WH-10" Sub that is just sitting in the basement (it has some annoying humming sound), Do you think it will match the other speakers in my setup? or should I modernize to a newer Sub?

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@Zorba922 Thanks I'm going to give it a try first,
I can arrange an old 2nd hand Q200c Do you think it should perform better vs the (newer) Q150 as a Center?

Also, I have a very old "Wharfedale Topaz WH-10" Sub that is just sitting in the basement (it has some annoying humming sound), Do you think it will match the other speakers in my setup? or should I modernize to a newer Sub?
No idea, just try both and see which one you prefer.

The Wharfedale sub is better than nothing, but if HT is your main focus not music, then I would plan to upgrade it sooner rather than later.

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@Zorba922 Thanks I'm going to give it a try first,
I can arrange an old 2nd hand Q200c Do you think it should perform better vs the (newer) Q150 as a Center?

Also, I have a very old "Wharfedale Topaz WH-10" Sub that is just sitting in the basement (it has some annoying humming sound), Do you think it will match the other speakers in my setup? or should I modernize to a newer Sub?
It might actually be a good thing for you. I received my q150s yesterday and have been running q100s x 5 in my setup for the last year. It is a bit early for me to give any definitive judgement of them, but I can already attest to what others have stated in that the mids are definitely more recessed than the q100s. The older q200 center might actually be a good thing for dialog clarity with the more forward mids......not that the q150s lack clarity, but more as a comparison of the two models. If I keep my q150s I will still be using q100s in the center and surround positions.
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@Zorba922 Thanks I'm going to give it a try first,
I can arrange an old 2nd hand Q200c Do you think it should perform better vs the (newer) Q150 as a Center?

Also, I have a very old "Wharfedale Topaz WH-10" Sub that is just sitting in the basement (it has some annoying humming sound), Do you think it will match the other speakers in my setup? or should I modernize to a newer Sub?
how much for the Q200c, could you demo it with the Q150's first?

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2nd hand Q200 - $350
new Q150 pair - $300

I think i'll take the pair, and use one single as rear
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2nd hand Q200 - $350
new Q150 pair - $300

I think i'll take the pair, and use one single as rear
That's not a bad price for the q200c.
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Try the single Q150 as center first and see if it's enough for you. If not, move it to surround duty with the other one, and get a proven performer horizontal center in the $250-350 range (unless you want to get raped for a $650 KEF center just for the sake of the "timbre matching" unicorn).
A year ago I spent $450cad on the Q650c so no I am sure they are almost the same price or cheaper these day?

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A year ago I spent $450cad on the Q650c so no I am sure they are almost the same price or cheaper these day?
IMO I don't find the Q650C that overpriced (it's been exaggerated imo).It's literally a Q750 Tower($750 each) with 1 less bass radiator and this is also reflected in the price ->$650.

with that being said i always see the Q650C on sale and I grabbed mine for $600 CDN taxes in ($450 US).



note: the Q650C needs decent power to shine, it's not the easiest speaker to drive. My AVR-X1400H does a very poor job driving the Q650C.
I tested my Q650C with my Yamaha a-s501(setup mono) and it brought out all the dynamics that was missing through the X1400H.

my next step is to get an AVR with pre-outs and few amplifiers.

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FWIW ...

I ran a 6.1 setup (5.1 plus a single "back" speaker) using Q100's for several year and liked it very much. Most 7.1+ AVR's handle 6.1 fine but it's worth double checking first.

I used a Q100 as my center and it was great - but I've always favored a more cohesive/unified front stage sound.

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