Originally Posted by QueueCumber
As far as the Salon2s, I sold those with my previous house. For me two things bothered me. One, they never seemed to project holographically for me like some other speakers I’ve experienced. Two, the sibilance in female vocals constantly grated at me. Perhaps I have Misophonia or something, but it was intolerable. It didn’t bother me after I put them behind a perforated screen in a home theater, but I also didn’t use them for music really after that change.
Originally Posted by Scotth3886
Agree. I've written enough times about my 'real music, played on real unamplified instruments, by real musicians, in a real space', starting in 1947 so that my early exposure was hearing music in a very different way than many/most do today. It's the relationship of the instruments, conductor, musicians, etc. to the space that I first listen for so everything or just about everything that the Northridge gang measures is secondary to my primary interest. Not that tonally neutral is of no importance to me, but it pales in comparison to the three-dimensional 'hand waving' elements.
I've only ever experienced a really convincing "sonic hologram" with a 2-channel pair of speakers one time . It was a pair of Wilson WAMM's in a very unusual setup. It was at an old private residence building that had been converted to a high-end audio showroom. The Wilson's were upstairs in a large, wide open room. I would guess the room dimensions to be about 25' deep x 20' wide x 15' tall. The speakers had been setup by "someone from the factory who had spent 2 days getting them "just perfect."" Here's what was weird: they were setup very close to the middle of the room, and they were asymmetrically located to the LP. The right speaker was about 1.5' further away, and further to the right than the left speaker was to the left, and it was toe'd in much less than the left speaker. Even weirder, the listening position was a wooden chair placed right against the back wall. Behind your head was a 2'x2'x4" acoustic absorption panel. I was instructed to place my head directly against the panel.
In spite of the "weirdness" of the setup, the imaging of this system was uncanny. Each instrument occupied its' own distinct 3-dimensional space, with some in the front, some behind, some left, some right, but each one uniquely owning it's own space. The soundstage was wide and deep in a way I had never experienced before, nor since. Even more uncanny, I spent time looking directly at, and focusing on, each of the speakers and never once did I identify ANYTHING that seemed to originate from the speaker. It all just "existed" within the room as if the (weird looking, monolithic) speakers were inanimate statue-type objects that bore no relationship to the music.
And yet, in spite of this incredibly believable imaging and soundstage, that system still didn't achieve 'real music, played on real unamplified instruments, by real musicians, in a real space'
. It was no where near as dynamic, and it didn't come close to the dynamic range of live music. As my good friend @audioguy
has described it:
Multi-channel enhancement of 2 channel music, to my ears, is a huge improvement over 2 channel (still not marginally close to a live event). I used to believe that a great home audio system could at least reproduce a 3 piece jazz combo. But then my wonderful bride surprised me for a birthday and hired a 3 piece jazz combo to play in our home. If live music is 100, then the very, very best 2 channel audio system is a 10 - maybe!!! It is that far apart. So I quit the chase toward perfection (and the attendant expense) and decided to focus on fun. (Still ain't cheap - and it is still an addiction interesting hobby!!!). There are very few pieces of music that don't sound more "fun" to my ears when expanded to multi-channel. In the FWIW department, if you were to sit at the MLP listening to music, you would not know you were not listening to 2-channel - until I switched to 2-channel.
, I believe at one time you owned some Wilson speakers. Did they provide the "sonic hologram" I experienced with the WAMM's?