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flexibility between 5.1.4 and 7.1.2 rears vs sides

As the title states I am setting up a system that hopefully allows some flexibility but I am a bit unsure how the end result will be... any experience in having 2 atmos speakers 5 feet in front of MLP would be greatly appreciated

I will initially setup for 5.1.4 utilizing 4 in ceilings (5800 klipsch). My Marantz 7010 cant handle more than 9 amps so I will not be able to utilize all 4 in ceilings AND have side and rear surrounds. Thus, my solution is this. I will have my rear towers placed on the side surround position during 5.1.4 (I figure the rear ceilings will provide the immersion for the MLP).

Here is were it gets tricky. When I have guests sitting in the 2nd row I figure I will just reconfig the amp to 7.1.2 with the rear ceilings configured as rear surrounds and then atmos will only utilize the front two ceiling speakers. I figure I would also move the side tower surrounds a few feet to the second row/rear for immersion purposes also.

All in all the biggest question I have is will this 7.1.2 setup fail/sound like garbage? Second, would you generally go for side surrounds for the MLP or towers placed in the rear surround position?

In the future I will replace the Marantz with a 11 amp and then have both sides and rears. That isnt going to happen for a few more years.

Any thoughts?

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As the title states I am setting up a system that hopefully allows some flexibility but I am a bit unsure how the end result will be... any experience in having 2 atmos speakers 5 feet in front of MLP would be greatly appreciated

I will initially setup for 5.1.4 utilizing 4 in ceilings (5800 klipsch). My Marantz 7010 cant handle more than 9 amps so I will not be able to utilize all 4 in ceilings AND have side and rear surrounds. Thus, my solution is this. I will have my rear towers placed on the side surround position during 5.1.4 (I figure the rear ceilings will provide the immersion for the MLP).

Here is were it gets tricky. When I have guests sitting in the 2nd row I figure I will just reconfig the amp to 7.1.2 with the rear ceilings configured as rear surrounds and then atmos will only utilize the front two ceiling speakers. I figure I would also move the side tower surrounds a few feet to the second row/rear for immersion purposes also.

All in all the biggest question I have is will this 7.1.2 setup fail/sound like garbage? Second, would you generally go for side surrounds for the MLP or towers placed in the rear surround position?

In the future I will replace the Marantz with a 11 amp and then have both sides and rears. That isnt going to happen for a few more years.

Any thoughts?

So, all you need to do I think is simply add a small 2-channel amp and you'll get 7.1.4 - I think the 7010 processes 11 Atmos channels, but only has 9 amplified channels. Pretty small investment that I'd imagine you can afford right now.


I don't think what you are proposing would yield the best of results, as it would then put the height layer and the base layer together when you do the switch-aroo, not really meant to run that way.
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Hmm. Hadn't considered that. If the 7010 can indeed handle the processing and provide the calibration for all 11 then that's a heck of a solution. Thanks!

Although that's not a 'small' investment as it means I have to buy 2 rs-62s lol

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Hmm. Hadn't considered that. If the 7010 can indeed handle the processing and provide the calibration for all 11 then that's a heck of a solution. Thanks!

Although that's not a 'small' investment as it means I have to buy 2 rs-62s lol

Well, yes, there is that! And don't forget the extra wire.....


But yes, at least according to the Marantz site, you can process 11 channels and just need to amplify the two extra ones. Not endorsing this product, but this is just an example of an amp that should do you just fine:


https://www.amazon.com/Channel-Audio...rds=B071XQGYRJ
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Well, yes, there is that! And don't forget the extra wire.....


But yes, at least according to the Marantz site, you can process 11 channels and just need to amplify the two extra ones. Not endorsing this product, but this is just an example of an amp that should do you just fine:


https://www.amazon.com/Channel-Audio...rds=B071XQGYRJ
wow thats certainly not expensive. I will consider that for sure. Thanks for your help!
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