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Got a few hours of listening on the DCM TP160S.

First, I’ll say that these speakers are no joke when it comes to value! Thanks to zieglj01 for discovering these!

I’ve tested a couple dozen pairs of bookshelf speakers in the $350/pr and below range, and I agree that these hold their own in terms of sound quality and don’t have some of the design and quality control issues I have experienced with some other models in the $350/pr and below range.

For example, I always test speakers at a fairly high volume level to see how they hold up as the volume is pushed. With these DCMs running full range at pretty loud levels, I could not detect distortion, resonances, and woofers bottoming out. That is pretty impressive for sub $100 speakers.

Regarding the DCM’s sound, I think they are a bit forward in the treble. Cymbals and acoustic guitar are a bit more prominent vs. other speakers that I consider more neutral. The treble is not harsh or fatiguing, but it sounds a bit boosted to my ears. At the same time, the tweeters don’t sound as natural and resolving as some of the speakers I’ve owned in the $350/pr and under range. Combined with my boosted treble perception, overall, the treble is not the best that I’ve heard in the $350/pr and under range. However, this is a nitpick because the DCM’s are $80/pr ($70/pr when I bought them)!

Net, these DCMs are a great value and very hard to beat for the money, unless you find a killer deal on something used.

I’m now curious about the DCM TFE series.
Yes they can take some power -- the tweeter does lack some air -- while they are not dead neutral flat, they are neither harsh or fatiquing (and I can listen for a long time to brass, piano, violin, cymbals, and high female voices like Jackie Evancho) ... while some speakers may/can beat them in the $349 down area, it is not easy to trump the DCM on a tight budget. ... They beat my former budget champs Cambridge S30 and Sapphire SB speakers ... And yes I am waiting for the TFE speakers to drop down some more.

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I see that you have the Dayton 402X. I have you listened to music with them? I have the 402BTX and find them a little on the bright side too, similar to the DCMs.
Hmm... interesting observation. I don't necessarily find the 402X bright, although it may be because Audyssey has tamed it. I haven't listened to it with Audyssey off.

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Yeah, I never found the S15 and S20 to be bright, but just my opinion.
I suppose I shouldn't be judging the entire S series because I only heard the S35 center, which may have sounded on the bright side simply because of lack of low end, so it was kind of unbalanced to begin with.

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I received mine in 2 days from the eBay seller! A nice birthday surprise Monday afternoon!

I like the dark cherry finish more than I thought I would. It blends very well with the furniture in the room, and obviously looks much more expensive than the price paid. (Dark cherry is a good description and they are well depicted in pix online. I guess I was afraid they would be lighter in person.)

I hooked up the L&R to do a quick 2.0 head-to-head with my Boston CS26. (Need to get iso pads for the bottoms, and spade or banana plugs before installing full time. Using bare wire under the binding posts doesn't allow for a solid connection with the bi-wire jumpers. I should've thought of that ahead of time.)

I turned off Audyssey and gave 'em a spin with some music I know pretty well. I'm no audiophile. Just my novice impressions...

They do seem to have Slightly elevated highs. Not harsh, maybe "lively", "engaging", "exciting"? Not sure of the right adjective. But I liked it, and I hate super bright speakers. I didn't notice any of the cringe-worthy sibilance that I am Super Sensitive to being Subjected to!

To me, the upper end sounded very similar to the CS26. And I suspect any boost perceived pre-Eq will be tamed by Audyssey. I never had any issue with the CS26 sounding too bright, even in a small room at stupid loud levels with speakers almost in my ear. I don't think I'll have Any issue with the TP160S.

Where they really shined was the mids/upper bass. More forward, more detailed. Nuances and mistakes in the recordings I never noticed before jumped out!

Their imaging is great! Vocals from both speakers were solidly locked in the center and front of the stage. But the TP160S was noticeably better at putting additional depth and spread between other instruments. I never had any issues with the CS26's imaging. I still think they are very good considering their original price and size. But head-to-head, the TP160S portrayed a larger and more detailed soundstage from an equally small and even less expensive speaker.

The CS26 had more low bass than the TP160S. And in the music I was listening to, I liked the extra oomph the CS26 added without a sub. Maybe the TP160S is more neutral, and I was hearing some boosting in the CS26. And I'm sure the TP160S needs more than 30 minutes to really open up. Like I said, I'm no audiophile. Not saying this is a bad thing, just a thing.

Super excited to get everything hooked up and dialed in! Thanks again for the heads-up on a super deal!
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Speaking of speakers for garage duty, I'll eventually end up using either JBL Arena 130, Jamo C603, Polk Monitor 40, or these TP160S, if I end up buying them. Whichever ones I end up using, I'll be supplementing them with a powered sub to fill the low end. The Polks used to be my basement speakers at one time, and they worked pretty well alongside some DefTech AW6500. The Jamos can't seem to be able to handle much power... I actually blew out the tweeters in them soon after I bought them.

Since I already have more speakers than I know what to do with, getting the DCMs seems silly, but the low price and the positive reviews sure are tempting.

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The CS26 had more low bass than the TP160S. And in the music I was listening to, I liked the extra oomph the CS26 added without a sub. Maybe the TP160S is more neutral, and I was hearing some boosting in the CS26. And I'm sure the TP160S needs more than 30 minutes to really open up. Like I said, I'm no audiophile. Not saying this is a bad thing, just a thing.

Super excited to get everything hooked up and dialed in! Thanks again for the heads-up on a super deal!
Yes the entry level Bostons can have some bloated bass, the DCM is more natural in the bass to me
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56 of the cherry have been sold

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56 of the cherry have been sold
Has the price been steadily rising on these, or does it fluctuate up and down?

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I suppose I shouldn't be judging the entire S series because I only heard the S35 center, which may have sounded on the bright side simply because of lack of low end, so it was kind of unbalanced to begin with.
The Polk S35 has sort of roller coaster response and can sound bright

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Has the price been steadily rising on these, or does it fluctuate up and down?
The price has been holding at $78.95

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Speaking of DCM speakers, has anyone heard the TP160 towers? It looks like one could get the towers for about the same price as TP160S booshelves and speaker stands.

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Speaking of DCM speakers, has anyone heard the TP160 towers? It looks like one could get the towers for about the same price as TP160S booshelves and speaker stands.
The difference should be deeper and more extended bass ... a really good deal
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so , barring catastrophic flooding (it's pouring rain..) the emotiva b1's are off to see the wizard Tuesday ...

YAMAHA TSR 5790.. front l/r emotiva b1's and /or kef q100's ..BIC v1220.....Emotiva basx10.... ascend cbm 170 center.. polk t15 rears..samsung 55" j620d
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I've been seeing some other impressions on the DCM that aren't quite as favorable, saying they don't really compete with the above $200 crowd in anything but appearance/build quality. More in line with the Sony Core SQ wise than surpassing it. They still look like a rock solid choice if you can't spend over $100 though.
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I've been seeing some other impressions on the DCM that aren't quite as favorable, saying they don't really compete with the above $200 crowd in anything but appearance/build quality. More in line with the Sony Core SQ wise than surpassing it. They still look like a rock solid choice if you can't spend over $100 though.
As in all things audio, not everyone will prefer or like them as much as many of us do -- some ears may hear things a little different -- but they can take the power where some others can crumble -- and if one does not prefer them as fronts, then they will make real good surround or garage speakers.
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I've been seeing some other impressions on the DCM that aren't quite as favorable, saying they don't really compete with the above $200 crowd in anything but appearance/build quality. More in line with the Sony Core SQ wise than surpassing it. They still look like a rock solid choice if you can't spend over $100 though.
Got links to those other impressions? Just curious what others are saying since I haven't been able to find any professional reviews or tests.

Most of these budget speakers don't compare favorably if you have to pay MSRP for them. But at the sale price, like these DCMs, they become a reasonable buy.

At its current ebay price of under $80, the TP160S is in similar price range as Dayton MK402X. But Dayton only has a 4" driver, is a 4 Ohm speaker, and has only 84 dB sensitivity, so it's more difficult to drive and can't play very loud. While it's a decent speaker for its size, if you are able to accommodate a large speaker, I think the DCM would be a better buy, although I have not heard it myself, yet.

Other than these DCMs and Sony Cores which sometimes go on sale, what other decent bookshelf speakers are currently available for under $80?

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and if one does not prefer them as fronts, then they will make real good surround or garage speakers.
I'm going to have to build another garage.
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Got links to those other impressions? Just curious what others are saying since I haven't been able to find any professional reviews or tests.

Most of these budget speakers don't compare favorably if you have to pay MSRP for them. But at the sale price, like these DCMs, they become a reasonable buy.

Other than these DCMs and Sony Cores which sometimes go on sale, what other decent bookshelf speakers are currently available for under $80?
I for one do not have so called top class ears -- but I do like what I hear compared to many other speakers -- and I am glad that many people like the non-perfect DCM -- and they sure did save some money -- what I really want to hear is the TFE60

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Hmm... interesting observation. I don't necessarily find the 402X bright, although it may be because Audyssey has tamed it. I haven't listened to it with Audyssey off.

I suppose I shouldn't be judging the entire S series because I only heard the S35 center, which may have sounded on the bright side simply because of lack of low end, so it was kind of unbalanced to begin with.
Last night, I moved the DCMs into the garage, where I had been previously testing the MK402BTX.

If you don't find the 402X bright, I don't think you would find the DCMs bright either.


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When I moved the DCMs into my garage (in place of Polk RT35i, MSRP around $350/pr in 2001) and did some listening last night, they did not sound as good as the Polks. The Polks are not exactly stock though - I recapped the crossovers with higher quality caps.

One thing that struck out to me was when a specific track had drum sticks ticking the metal rim of a snare (I presume). I thought to myself...that does not sound right...does not sound real and like what I'm used to hearing on this track...sounds like the sticks are plastic. So I listened to this section of the track several times and then switched the Polks back in. The Polks portrayed this much more realistically - sounded more like wood sticks on a metal rim. The Polks are also more full and smooth sounding in general.

This does not detract from the value of the DCMs at $80/pr. I still think they are hard to beat, unless you find something nicer used.

I also think Polk S20 are better in the sub $250 range, but they require a lot of space (like 18") behind them, or they sound to bass-heavy, IMO.

I thought the Infinity RS162 sounded better than all of the above, but the QC issues I experienced were a put off.

Net, IMO, the DCMs are a great value, but they are not giant killers that are going to threaten the best of the $350/pr speakers, or even $250/pr speakers.


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I do not think that anyone is saying or speculated that the DCM is going to beat the $449 suggested retail price of the Infinity R162 speakers.

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I know his work -- and you will/should like the results

They’re getting sent to Dennis, correct?

I’m excited to see this also.

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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I’m excited to see this also.
Yes, he is sending his Emotiva B1 speakers to Dennis

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I know his work -- and you will/should like the results
I'm pretty darn exited to get my favorite budget tweeter in a design that features his work... It's gotta be a fun listen, i tell ya though, the more i listen to the cbm 170's the better they sound..it will be a fun comp...

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I've been seeing some other impressions on the DCM that aren't quite as favorable, saying they don't really compete with the above $200 crowd in anything but appearance/build quality. More in line with the Sony Core SQ wise than surpassing it. They still look like a rock solid choice if you can't spend over $100 though.
Many people do not remember that the Sony use to sell for $219 in the store -- but Sony lowered the price to compete with the Pioneer BS22 to move some stock. I for one would not pay $219 for the Sony, or $349 for the DCM. And Mitek lowered the sell price compared to the list price, as they use to sell for $249 -- It is rare for me to pay suggested retail prices on speakers to begin with. If in fact there really is someone out there who likes the Sony better, then I will not debate it, and I will be happy for them. They can put their DCM on Craiglist, where someone will buy them even for the looks.
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Many people do not remember that the Sony use to sell for $219 in the store -- but Sony lowered the price to compete with the Pioneer BS22 to move some stock. I for one would not pay $219 for the Sony, or $349 for the DCM. And Mitek lowered the sell price compared to the list price, as they use to sell for $249 -- It is rare for me to pay suggested retail prices on speakers to begin with. If in fact there really is someone out there who likes the Sony better, then I will not debate it, and I will be happy for them. They can put their DCM on Craiglist, where someone will buy them even for the looks.
seems that some speakers self adjust to market value ( i think it's bigger , well heeled companies), the sony's fall into this category , kef , infinity, polk as well, while others seem not to adjust (maybe those companies don't need to), revel & dynaudio come to mind..

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seems that some speakers self adjust to market value ( i think it's bigger , well heeled companies), the sony's fall into this category , kef , infinity, polk as well, while others seem not to adjust (maybe those companies don't need to), revel & dynaudio come to mind..
Yes, Sony had to adjust (but they are some nice sounding speakers), Polk had to adjust, and as big as they are they save on parts based on volume, KEF and Infinity and JBL tend to over-price their speakers. JBL can be a bit of a cheat, as they only put so much in their budget speakers. And Definitive Tech really stretches some of their prices. ..... And even Canton stretches their high prices.

One of the reasons some of the prices seem a little high on some, is because of the current day easy return policies.

But it is good finding some good deals on some overall nice/decent sounding speakers -- as the the audio hobby is fun.
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Yes, Sony had to adjust (but they are some nice sounding speakers), Polk had to adjust, and as big as they are they save on parts based on volume, KEF and Infinity and JBL tend to over-price their speakers. JBL can be a bit of a cheat, as they only put so much in their budget speakers. And Definitive Tech really stretches some of their prices. ..... And even Canton stretches their high prices.

One of the reasons some of the prices seem a little high on some, is because of the current day easy return policies.

But it is good finding some good deals on some overall nice/decent sounding speakers -- as the the audio hobby is fun.
absolutely,, the more i listen to my cbm 170's ,the better that $200 c-list deal seems.. it's a fun ride a bunch of the time..

YAMAHA TSR 5790.. front l/r emotiva b1's and /or kef q100's ..BIC v1220.....Emotiva basx10.... ascend cbm 170 center.. polk t15 rears..samsung 55" j620d
bedroom .. YAMAHA r-xv 383... front l/r.. wharfedale 10.1s... ascend cbm 170 center ... Emotiva basx8... samsung ku6300 50 in
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absolutely,, the more i listen to my cbm 170's ,the better that $200 c-list deal seems.. it's a fun ride a bunch of the time..
Well I decided after watching this video, that I will give up the audio hobby -- maybe I can learn something about audio one day

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