Originally Posted by mpk1970
Good stuff Zieg
I wonder how much my bright, glass Florida room influences sound?
Can you share what volume do you test these speakers and do you/have you cranked any of the test speakers up a bit??
I also found bass good on the 230s--wide soundstage--and definitely bright sounding
I'm surprised you found them more cohesive from a sound perspective than the 3020i. For me, I thought the 3020i outpaced 230s pretty easily musically in 2.0 in so many different categories from details, clarity, imaging, etc...
Also what is the "honk" you describe with the 3020i and NHT?
Anyhow, I'm sure its the different room situations that probably give us different sounds from the different speaker
Yes different rooms do play a part. My room is damped, but not over damped with some acoustic foam and some curtains and rugs -- there is no real echo with the hand clap test in the room
The speakers are played loud enough to be heard all over a 800+ sq ft apt, but I do not test them at extreme volumes that will not be used for listening
That window glass is not your friend, which can cause a lot of reflections that are not being absorbed and can add some brightness/zing to the sound -- knocking on a wall and knocking on glass will give a good hint
The honk in the 3020i happens on some dynamic peaks in music where the cabinet resonates and gives a boxy noisy sound that interferes with the music and gives a tunnel like effect. The NHT and JBL has better control with the same songs. But there is still some boxy sound with the JBL and NHT, and can increase some with loud volumes -- with that long cabinet and low height of the Q A some compromise has been made with the crossover and/or bracing to meet a price point.
I wanted to like the Q A 3020l, but that forward push was too much for me -- and they do not have that new so-called warm sound to me -- but they do have better detail and soundstage over the 3020, but it is not head and shoulders to me -- and that is my subjective take -- what is bright to some is not bright to others.
Q Acoustics does have like many a house like sound -- and in the pass they would not reveal their measurements to me. I understand why a lot of people like the Q A 3020i and that is good, it is about what floats our boat.
The JBL are not dead neutral to me, but they do not have that forward push to me like some other brands can have that would make me want to back up, but their so-called wave-guide can give a small like horn effect in the highs with some music -- some have called the JBL mids a little recessed, and the upper mids tend to be somewhat recessed to me -- based on measurements there is a small so-called scoop in the upper mids, somewhat like the British did with some speakers.
Enjoy the Audio adventure