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post #1 of 21 Old 03-03-2019, 07:25 PM - Thread Starter
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Speaker selection advice needed

Been reading/learning quite a bit over past few months to help me plan my basement theater build. My basement is unfinished, and a blank canvas right now. Planning the theater space to be 13 x 21 x 7.5. For Sound, I am 95% sure I will choose PSA as follows: 2 x MTM210 for FL and FR, MTM210C, 2 x MTM 110 for RL and RR. 2 x MTM 110 for SL and SR, and lastly 2 x S1811’s. Would really appreciate advice on whether or not I am on the right path with sound so far.
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Should be a killer HT system!!
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Agree, I don’t think you can do better for the money for a home theater setup outside of DIY.


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Been reading/learning quite a bit over past few months to help me plan my basement theater build. My basement is unfinished, and a blank canvas right now. Planning the theater space to be 13 x 21 x 7.5. For Sound, I am 95% sure I will choose PSA as follows: 2 x MTM210 for FL and FR, MTM210C, 2 x MTM 110 for RL and RR. 2 x MTM 110 for SL and SR, and lastly 2 x S1811’s. Would really appreciate advice on whether or not I am on the right path with sound so far.
Some carpeting and perhaps some wall treatments/tapestries and a receiver with Audyssey XT32 that EQs dual subs and you will have a killer setup.
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Been reading/learning quite a bit over past few months to help me plan my basement theater build. My basement is unfinished, and a blank canvas right now. Planning the theater space to be 13 x 21 x 7.5. For Sound, I am 95% sure I will choose PSA as follows: 2 x MTM210 for FL and FR, MTM210C, 2 x MTM 110 for RL and RR. 2 x MTM 110 for SL and SR, and lastly 2 x S1811’s. Would really appreciate advice on whether or not I am on the right path with sound so far.
Even though the room is not that large you would probably be better off with a pair of V1811s if the main use is movies, TV or gaming.

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Yes that is going to be a very nice system and like Kini62 said get the ported subs if movies will be the main use.
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You guys kill me when dual 18" sealed subs aren't "enough" in a 275 sq/ft room.

I have a single 15" sealed servo in my main theater and it's more than enough.

Two 18s would be comic overkill except for everyone but massive bassheads.

I should have dual 12s to be honest.

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Yes that is going to be a very nice system and like Kini62 said get the ported subs if movies will be the main use.
Really appreciate all the feedback so far. Regarding the subs, I was thinking the sealed 18 would make up for some of what I would lose by not getting vented. The space will be used 50/50 between theater and clean clear music. Keeping in mind that the space is planned to be 13 x 21 x 7.5 ceiling. The back end will be completely open giving an additional 10 ft until hitting the back wall where we will have a bar area which we would use really for fridge, counter space, snacks, etc. definitely wanting thoughts/feedback on the sound equipment.

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Even though the room is not that large you would probably be better off with a pair of V1811s if the main use is movies, TV or gaming.
Hey Kini62 .. I agree that the ported may be a better choice. This will be in my basement, though on the floor just above, I have a 135 gallon fish tank off set about 10 ft (floor distance) from there the theater room will be underneath. It’s not right under, but still concerned for a) health of the fish b) vibrations damaging the tank and causing damage. Welcome to any advice on this.
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Hey Kini62 .. I agree that the ported may be a better choice. This will be in my basement, though on the floor just above, I have a 135 gallon fish tank off set about 10 ft (floor distance) from there the theater room will be underneath. It’s not right under, but still concerned for a) health of the fish b) vibrations damaging the tank and causing damage. Welcome to any advice on this.
If you go ported then you more than likely can get dual 15s as dual ported 15s will have around a +4db maximum headroom advantage over dual sealed 18s.

I'd just check with Tom V at PSA about your particular situation as he will absolutely tell you what makes sense for your room and my guess is it absolutely would not be dual ported 18" subs.
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You guys kill me when dual 18" sealed subs aren't "enough" in a 275 sq/ft room.

I have a single 15" sealed servo in my main theater and it's more than enough.

Two 18s would be comic overkill except for everyone but massive bassheads.

I should have dual 12s to be honest.

We have 4 sealed 18/s and two 12s in room about that size about to change out 12s for 4 15s
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We have 4 sealed 18/s and two 12s in room about that size about to change out 12s for 4 15s
Tom V will lead the OP in the right direction.

To say that you are in a tiny minority of bassheads would be an understatement.

Most people, including myself, don't pay as much for a whole system as you do for subs in a small space in an actual home.

Has nothing to do with budget in my case, I just don't need that kind of overkill and neither do most on AVS.

But easy enough for the OP to start with dual "whatever Tom V recommends" and add more later if "not enough."
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You guys kill me when dual 18" sealed subs aren't "enough" in a 275 sq/ft room.

I have a single 15" sealed servo in my main theater and it's more than enough.

Two 18s would be comic overkill except for everyone but massive bassheads.

I should have dual 12s to be honest.
Not to mention, those speakers are major overkill for a room that size. I gets it, some people like some headroom, but you could get a system with much less sensitive speakers REALLY loud in you room. With those excellent PSA, you have headroom that you will never be able to use!

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Not to mention, those speakers are major overkill for a room that size. I gets it, some people like some headroom, but you could get a system with much less sensitive speakers REALLY loud in you room. With those excellent PSA, you have headroom that you will never be able to use!
I recognize that there is a group of AVS members who listen far far louder than I do.

Those are the folks without ear plugs at concerts!

Sadly, I went to hundreds of concerts without ear plugs back in the day and have Tinnitus as a result.

That plus riding motorcycles at freeway speeds and higher will destroy your hearing.

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Tom V will lead the OP in the right direction.

To say that you are in a tiny minority of bassheads would be an understatement.

Most people, including myself, don't pay as much for a whole system as you do for subs in a small space in an actual home.

Has nothing to do with budget in my case, I just don't need that kind of overkill and neither do most on AVS.

But easy enough for the OP to start with dual "whatever Tom V recommends" and add more later if "not enough."

Just a note here we paid more for our bass trapping and sound treatments than our subs cost.
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Just a note here we paid more for our bass trapping and sound treatments than our subs cost.
So a 1 percenter on AVS then!

We need a photo to get a sense of the space/setup if that's ok.

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Been reading/learning quite a bit over past few months to help me plan my basement theater build. My basement is unfinished, and a blank canvas right now. Planning the theater space to be 13 x 21 x 7.5. For Sound, I am 95% sure I will choose PSA as follows: 2 x MTM210 for FL and FR, MTM210C, 2 x MTM 110 for RL and RR. 2 x MTM 110 for SL and SR, and lastly 2 x S1811’s. Would really appreciate advice on whether or not I am on the right path with sound so far.
That would be a very nice setup, but unless you need rock concert levels, you can get a very nice sounding setup for a lot less. You wouldn't really need towers with dual subs.

If you're set on going PSA, you're certainly free to do so, but as mentioned above it would be overkill for the space you're putting them in as would dual 18" ported subs.

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Some carpeting and perhaps some wall treatments/tapestries and a receiver with Audyssey XT32 that EQs dual subs and you will have a killer setup.
With this set up ultimately with two 18” subs, should I be looking at sealed or ported? We will be using 50% for HT, and 50% enjoying good music. So many articles leaning heavily to one or the other which doesn’t make it a clear cut choice.

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With this set up ultimately with two 18” subs, should I be looking at sealed or ported? We will be using 50% for HT, and 50% enjoying good music. So many articles leaning heavily to one or the other which doesn’t make it a clear cut choice.
Ported subs will have more output below 35hz which will be ideal for HT whereas a sealed sub will have a more shallow drop off ideal for music. For the best of both worlds, Rhythmik servo subs would be a good option.

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With this set up ultimately with two 18” subs, should I be looking at sealed or ported? We will be using 50% for HT, and 50% enjoying good music. So many articles leaning heavily to one or the other which doesn’t make it a clear cut choice.
PSA's best subs are sealed, Floyd Toole recommends sealed and I've been a fan of sealed servo subs since 1986 with excellent results.

It is not the CHEAPEST way to fill a space with deep bass but it is the best IMHO.

But your space is hardly large.

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