Originally Posted by LowTech1
You would be doing yourself an great injustice not looking at Martin Logan ESL's.. Get them in your room and set up properly and trust me, you will be stunned. I went thru a ton of speakers before settling on these. They do everything well. You put a good recording thru them, you will be grinning big time. You owe it to yourself to try them out.. And not at Best Buy, at your house.. They also need to be tilted forward some also to get the best out of them.
Some general info for folks not familiar:
Rake back depending on the distance your MLP is from the speakers. I'm very nearfield and my rake is at 84 degrees.
Get a recording with a vocalist that you know is standing with the accompanying artists, which means not in a voice booth, at a natural height, and you should be fine on everything else. Or even a trumpet because that's going to be at head height.
But again, as I've said hundreds if not thousands of times, if you're not willing to put the extra effort into positioning and driving these right, do not buy these speakers!!! Start with 'The Rule of Thirds' with your speakers about a 1/3rd of the way into the room from the front wall and your MLP about a 1/3rd of the way into the room from the back wall and noodle around from there. I'm 41% into the room. And regarding amplification, start with an amplifier that doubles power when impedance is halved from 8 to 4 ohms. Amp should also be stable at 2 ohms or less. Much more to it than just that, but that's a good place to start.
attention to what you heard in Best Buy as their management won't let their sales kiddies get them out into the room because of the trip hazard the speaker cables pose.
With just about any ESL, one must pay attention to everything in their food chain. Bad recordings will beat you over the head. Many amplifiers, such as what you normally have with an AVR, do not like the capacitive load or the low impedance at high hz.
Great potential here to be extracted, but you have to really work at it. Biggest mistake I see by far is positioning them a couple feet out from the front wall. If you going to have a WAF issue with positioning, do yourself a favor and buy something else. Distant 2nd I see/hear is driving these with the typical AVR.
Sadly, most of the classic rock from the 60s is poorly recorded and will sound like chit. Surprisingly, just about everything else, even hop hip, dance house, dub step and electronica can be stunning at quite loud levels. These are well suited for maybe 2 or 3% of the population out there. Vast majority of folks should buy something else.