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Where does this conclusion come from...?


Personal experience running them full range.
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Personal experience running them full range.

Weird that the larger woofer would need a subwoofer, but interesting none the less.
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Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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Weird that the larger woofer would need a subwoofer, but interesting none the less.
Sound signature will often affect the perception of bass (flatter vs rising response), also in this case doesnt cover as much of the frequency range up top.
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I have a SVS 20-39PCI. My room is the same size as yours, don't buy a new sub until you get the Sierra 2's set-up. I think that your present sub is good for your size room. The SVS 20-39 pci is a very good unit. I presently have PB13 Ultra, but I was very happy with the PCI. My PCI auto turn on stop working, and I got my PB13 Ultra at a great price, so I purchase it.
The PB13 Ultra is a next level sub, but first try the PCI with the Sierra 2's it might be enough. Boomy bass is usually caused by the sub positioning in your room, try repositioning the PCI when you get your new speakers.
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Sound signature will often affect the perception of bass (flatter vs rising response), also in this case doesnt cover as much of the frequency range up top.
Huh? They are tuned roughly the same. Unless, the motor structure of the mid-woof is appreciably better in the Sierra 1, it will cry uncle sooner as the volume rises.

Regardless, to the OP and between the Sierra 1 and 2, a sub is optimal, and needs to be correctly implemented. The efficiency gain is one of the win-win's in audio.

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I have had a pair of S2’s since they came out. Excellent speakers and sound amazing on their own. That being said, I much prefer running them with a sub. It just adds so much to the sound I couldn’t go without one. My opinion of course.

Was a budget ever given? I’d go with a F12 or F15HP for a 2 channel. If your budget allowed a F18 would also be sweet.

I have a FV18 in my setup with S2’s and a Horizon. Sounds awesome imo. I started with the sealed F18 but decided I wanted some more oomph with movies.
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The Sierra-2's woofer was specially developed to pair with the "designed for Sierra-2" RAAL tweeter. The RAAL, by its nature, could not be crossed as low as the standard or NrT dome tweeters. A new woofer was needed that could play higher in the frequency range to meet the RAAL's higher-lower limit. That's where the SEAS Curv woofer steps in with its woven polypropylene construction. That keeps breakup nodes well beyond audibility. The cone material is lighter than the standard Sierra-1 woofer so bass would suffer, however, Dave & SEAS managed to enlarge the woofer to 6" within the same space claim as the standard woofer. That put their bass extension closer than the alternative, but the Sierra-1 will have a little more thump in the bass, where the Sierra-2 has better midrange with a bass detail at the expense of some slam/thump.


I recently played my Sierra-2's full range without the sub on and was impressed. I think there's enough deep level information in music to warrant a sub. It just adds another level of detail not present otherwise.
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I have had a pair of S2’s since they came out. Excellent speakers and sound amazing on their own. That being said, I much prefer running them with a sub. It just adds so much to the sound I couldn’t go without one. My opinion of course.

Was a budget ever given? I’d go with a F12 or F15HP for a 2 channel. If your budget allowed a F18 would also be sweet.

I have a FV18 in my setup with S2’s and a Horizon. Sounds awesome imo. I started with the sealed F18 but decided I wanted some more oomph with movies.



I want to try and keep it around $1000.00
Thanks for the advice and I love your tv cabinet!
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I want to try and keep it around $1000.00
Thanks for the advice and I love your tv cabinet!
You might want to try the $399 RSL Speedwoofer as Brent Butterworth deemed it a great music sub despite being ported.

If you like one, order a second as two subs are better than one, (I have two small ones in my music setup).

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I want to try and keep it around $1000.00
Thanks for the advice and I love your tv cabinet!
If you are looking for the best sound quality, I recommend two subs, REW, and a Umik-1 measurement mic. Without all three of these, you are VERY likely to end up with a poor frequency response which is low sound quality.

For music only, two small sealed 12"subs should be fine. A pair of Rythmik L12 should do the trick.
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Thanks for the advice and I love your tv cabinet!
Try to find something on the used market if you can. I've purchased most of my speakers and subs on the used market and the value is spectacular considering how well people tend to take care of higher end audio equipment.
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