Originally Posted by cocrh
I'd go this route.
Emotiva Airmotiv T1 - $498 a pair on closeout
Emotiva Airmotiv C1 or C2 - $249 - 399 if you have room for the C2 go with that one but be warned it is a very large center so measure before ordering
Emotiva Airmotiv B1 - $229 a pair
Rythmik F12 x 1 for now and if not enough add another one later - $650?
Try to get the Denon from Auth. dealer if you can and get the longer warr. Fry's often has the Denon X3500 for 529.00 and is an auth. dealer. The X3400 is a solid unit from Safe and sound too if you want to pull the trigger right away.
Pretty much what I recommended, but you can't get an F12 for $650.
Size of the room is more important for sub performance than you speakers UNLESS you're looking to play at reference volumes in a really large room and are sitting at a distance. If you're setting up your room so that you within 10 to 12 feet from the front speakers and screen, it really won't be that much of an issue. The Emotiva system will deliver high volume.
The subs, on the other hand, have to pressurize the room and what you go with depends on how big a bass head your are and what your expectations for experience the LFE in your room. Also, whether your room is on a slab or has a suspended floor will impact the tactile response you get from the subs. Slabs are extremely difficult to "energize". Positioning subs near field can help, but sometimes increases the ability to localize, especially if you're crossing them over at 100hz or higher.
As to why buy "refurbished", because you can often get as much as 50% or more off so get far more bang for your buck. Often "reburbished" is just an open box someone returned. But even a true refurbished item, if done right, will have been thoroughly re-done by the factory to ensure it's in proper working condition. Most modern electronics, if they're going to fail are going to fail in the first 90 days or so OR long after even a 3 year warranty expires. 1 year works pretty well in those cases. I've two refurbished AVRs that are still working just fine and I've had no issues with, one a 15 year old H/K that I use in my bedroom system that I go direct from Harman, the other a Yamaha Aventage in my living room that I bought two or three years ago from Accessories4Less. My current pre-pro is an open box item I got from a respected audio seller off of Amazon at about 60% of what new was going for (even as a previous year's model). I like good stuff, but I not paying full price for it!
As between the Denon or Marantz discussed above, I'd go with the Marantz. Denons have a rep for running a little hot and Marantz just seems to have an overall better build quality (even though they're owned by the same company).
As for "comparable" speakers to the Emotiva, probably not much at the price range (especially the T1s at closeout). I think you'll have to pay 10% to 30% more to get the same level of performance and SQ. Ascend Acoustics 340s across the front with their 170s in the back would be an option, but will cost a bit more (not huge, but some). Chane Acoustics is another ID, but they're notorious for not having product available - when it comes in it is gone almost immediately. But they do have package deals.
So many options can lead to paralysis by analysis. The three brands I've mentioned are pretty much universally praised by those who own them and work extremely well for HT.
As for subs, there are other players out there, you might look at HSU. I personally will never buy any sub but a Rythmik.