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Good outdoor speakers ideas ?

Im looking into options for my outdoor summer fun times.

Either looking at a single big boom box style speaker (active with bluetooth and such)

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Passive speakers (probably 2 ) that i would mount on my toolshed with a little amp or old avr inside toolshed.

Again, this has to be available in Canada. So either amazon or one of the trusted websites. (I like electronicsforless.ca for example)

So far my research:

ACTIVE:

A Benhringer PA speaker:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DMRV9H6/...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Easy option all-in-one deal. Also nice that i can bring it to friends houses when needed.

PASSIVE:
https://www.electronicsforless.ca/kl...pair-2448.html

Klipsch speakers. They usually are loud, wich would be good for outside listening. I would pair them with an AVR (buy a used one) with a bluetooth built in.

https://www.electronicsforless.ca/jb...lack-4974.html

JBL outdoors.

https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-Atr...tronics&sr=1-2

Polk Atriums. Saw a couple of good reviews on those.

https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-Atr...r=1-2-fkmrnull

Atrium 8, pricier. Same price has the Klipsch

https://www.amazon.ca/Definitive-Tec...1-1-fkmr0&th=1

Def tech. They are also well reviewed

So far im thinking either the klipsch or the def tech.

Any help is welcome. Happy Spring to you !

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Im looking into options for my outdoor summer fun times.

Either looking at a single big boom box style speaker (active with bluetooth and such)

OR

Passive speakers (probably 2 ) that i would mount on my toolshed with a little amp or old avr inside toolshed.

Again, this has to be available in Canada. So either amazon or one of the trusted websites. (I like electronicsforless.ca for example)

So far my research:

ACTIVE:

A Benhringer PA speaker:
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00DMRV9H6/...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Easy option all-in-one deal. Also nice that i can bring it to friends houses when needed.

PASSIVE:
https://www.electronicsforless.ca/kl...pair-2448.html

Klipsch speakers. They usually are loud, wich would be good for outside listening. I would pair them with an AVR (buy a used one) with a bluetooth built in.

https://www.electronicsforless.ca/jb...lack-4974.html

JBL outdoors.

https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-Atr...tronics&sr=1-2

Polk Atriums. Saw a couple of good reviews on those.

https://www.amazon.ca/Polk-Audio-Atr...r=1-2-fkmrnull

Atrium 8, pricier. Same price has the Klipsch

https://www.amazon.ca/Definitive-Tec...1-1-fkmr0&th=1

Def tech. They are also well reviewed

So far im thinking either the klipsch or the def tech.

Any help is welcome. Happy Spring to you !
I absolutely love the RSL Outdoor speakers.
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In Ottawa, under the bridge near Parliament Hill, they have Bose outdoor speakers blasting away 24/7 I think to discourage the homeless people from sleeping under there. So you might consider these:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-in-Box-B...k/254154970361

(I know that's not much of an endorsement, lol)
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I am building a deck system now and am using the Polk Atrium 6 as mains with this passive 8" in-ground subwoofer (https://www.amazon.com/TIC-Outdoor-W...gateway&sr=8-3) to fill out the bass. I couldn't find an outdoor 2.1 amp to drive the passive sub that had sub controls, so I am using this little board amp (https://www.parts-express.com/tps311...RoC6dsQAvD_BwE) and will build an enclosure for the amp unit.

The board amp has built-in Bluetooth also (I am using a version of that board without bluetooth, so I can't comment on Bluetooth performance). I am only bench testing this system now -- it's not installed outside yet -- but this combination rocks. The Polks are super clear and the TIC sub puts out powerful bass.

When paired with a $10 24-volt 4-amp power supply from eBay, that little amp sounds amazing. The amp has controls for sub crossover, sub level, amp level to the mains, a treble control (sub level is effectively the "bass" control), and a master volume. While that may seem like a very strange mix of controls, it's actually perfect because it allows you to finely tune the main/sub mix very effectively.

The TIC sub also has a built-in fixed crossover, so you could just hook up a 2-channel amp to the left/right of the passive sub inputs, and connect the sub speaker outputs to left/right mains. Using it this way is a lot simpler, but you don't have any control over the sub/main balance where with the board amp you have total control over it.
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I have pair of Polk Atriums & love them; also would 2nd RSL as very good value speakers with solid build quality.. good luck

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One thing I liked about the Polk Atriums is that they claim to exceed mil specs for environmental endurance. I don't know how significant that rating is, but since mine will be out in the elements without cover, that was part of the deciding factor for me. The 6's are larger than I'd like (the 8's are larger still), but sound-wise I am very impressed with them. Durability I haven't tested at all yet, but am optimistic based upon their (claimed) mil spec rating.
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In Ottawa, under the bridge near Parliament Hill, they have Bose outdoor speakers blasting away 24/7 I think to discourage the homeless people from sleeping under there. So you might consider these:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-in-Box-B...k/254154970361

(I know that's not much of an endorsement, lol)
Thats hilarious in a way. Sad in some other way.
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One thing I liked about the Polk Atriums is that they claim to exceed mil specs for environmental endurance. I don't know how significant that rating is, but since mine will be out in the elements without cover, that was part of the deciding factor for me. The 6's are larger than I'd like (the 8's are larger still), but sound-wise I am very impressed with them. Durability I haven't tested at all yet, but am optimistic based upon their (claimed) mil spec rating.
Yeah the Polks look like a good bet too..Hard to pick.

I know Klipsch are usually loud as hell wich makes sense for outside listening
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I have pair of Polk Atriums & love them; also would 2nd RSL as very good value speakers with solid build quality.. good luck

Dont think RSL is available in CAN

Those look real good there. Nice setup.
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I absolutely love the RSL Outdoor speakers.
They dont seem to be available in CAN sadly.
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I have the Klipsch AW-650s and they are fantastic in our back yard. They are large outdoor speakers, so check the specs if WAF is an issue.

Vinyl, tape, digital... I don't care as long as I can listen to my music...
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Yeah the Polks look like a good bet too..Hard to pick.

I know Klipsch are usually loud as hell wich makes sense for outside listening
The Polks have better treble and are clearer sounding, the Klipch's are not as open sounding but are more efficient. How do I know? Check out this tool -> https://www.crutchfield.com/S-1yoNUR...ch-AW-650.html. This comparison is the $299 Atrium 6 against the $549 Klipsch AW-650.

This is the first time I've used the tool above, but it seems pretty awesome. I'm using my studio monitors to evaluate -- it asks what headphones to use, pick your headphones if you are using them, or AKG if not.

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If you get this passive sub (https://www.amazon.com/TIC-Outdoor-W.../dp/B00009UI6L) or something similar, I suspect you can go even smaller than the Atrium 6 and not sacrifice sound quality unless you really plan to crank it hard or have a very large area to cover. Given that I have the sub, if I could do it over again, I would have chosen smaller mains (Atrium 5 or maybe even 4's) both for WAF and MOAF (my own acceptance factor).
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Check out this tool -> https://www.crutchfield.com/S-1yoNUR...ch-AW-650.html. This comparison is the $299 Atrium 6 against the $549 Klipsch AW-650.
I don't know it was clear in my prior post with the link above, but once you get to that page you have to hit the "Listen Now" button at the top left of the page under the "Speaker Compare". That should pop up the window below that allows you to switch back and forth between the Polk and Klipsch recorded audio at volume matched levels. The difference between speakers seems most pronounced on the "Alternative Rock" track. This is a pretty awesome comparison tool. If you click the "same power" option instead of "same volume" at the bottom, you can hear how much more efficient the Klipsch are.

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If you are in Canada you should check out the outdoor speakers by
2 very good Canadian companies...PSB & Paradigm.

I own the largest Paradigm Stylus 470's for about 7 years now.
The 2 models from PSB were jaw dropping good too.

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I have the Def Tech 6500 on my deck and would happily recommend them. They replaced some Yamaha 350s and it was a night and day difference.

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If you are in Canada you should check out the outdoor speakers by
2 very good Canadian companies...PSB & Paradigm.

I own the largest Paradigm Stylus 470's for about 7 years now.
The 2 models from PSB were jaw dropping good too.
Looking that paradigm's website.

Whats the difference between 470 and 470 sm ??

SM is made to be used on its own i think ?
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If you are in Canada you should check out the outdoor speakers by
2 very good Canadian companies...PSB & Paradigm.

I own the largest Paradigm Stylus 470's for about 7 years now.
The 2 models from PSB were jaw dropping good too.
Actually just found out psb's CS500 series are on sale for 250$ pair... Seems really good.

Would you pick those VS the Definitive Technology AW 6500 (350$/pair)

PSB's are usually 500$/pair.

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Here is a sound clip comparison of the PSB, Klipsch, and Polk (the Def Tech is in the comparison for stats, but Crutchfield don't have a sound clip for the Def Tech yet) -- all 3 sound quite different, the alternative rock track seems to reveal the most differences:

https://www.crutchfield.com/Product/...=01|735AW6500B
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Listening to more Crutchfield sound clips, I think the PSB's sound the most natural. The Polks have the most sparkle, which seems like overboosted highs and less midrange. If you like bright speakers, the Polks are great, if you don't like bright, Polks may be the worst choice. Revel and Klipsch sound flat in comparison to the others -- maybe they are more accurate, but not as compelling to listen to.

The Polks are so bright that going from Polks to anything else make the next speaker sound dead. It's better to listen to the Polks last (particularly after the PSB's), because then you get the sense that the Polks might well be overboosted in the highs.

Unfortunately, Crutchfield doesn't carry Paradigm and they don't have sound clips for Def Techs or Martin Logan yet.


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Looking that paradigm's website.

Whats the difference between 470 and 470 sm ??

SM is made to be used on its own i think ?
The SM model has 2 tweeters and is meant to be used as a single speaker
Being fed a 2-channel signal. (Left/right into one speaker)

I'm running a pair of the regular 470's.

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Actually just found out psb's CS500 series are on sale for 250$ pair... Seems really good.

Would you pick those VS the Definitive Technology AW 6500 (350$/pair)

PSB's are usually 500$/pair.
I haven't heard the Det Tech speakers. If you can get the PSB's for $250, I'd
Jump on it. If my Paradigms ever go out, I decided after hearing the PSBs
That they would be my next outdoor speakers.
That's a really good deal on those speakers

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I haven't heard the Det Tech speakers. If you can get the PSB's for $250, I'd
Jump on it. If my Paradigms ever go out, I decided after hearing the PSBs
That they would be my next outdoor speakers.
That's a really good deal on those speakers
Yeah decided to give it a try at that price seems lilke a no brainer

All i need is to find a nice amp for it.

Maybe the paradigm PW amp on sale at 250$ would make sense
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We have the JBL's for our covered deck and love listening while we chill & grill
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We have the JBL's for our covered deck and love listening while we chill & grill
I currently got the PSB CS 500 mounted in my garage (my shed is not builded yet) and i love to listen while i cook on the BBQ (curently have to cook in driveway because my yard is a mud fest)

I think i will order some Def Tech and compare both models and send the others back...Or keep them for the garage. Lol
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I haven't heard the Det Tech speakers. If you can get the PSB's for $250, I'd
Jump on it. If my Paradigms ever go out, I decided after hearing the PSBs
That they would be my next outdoor speakers.
That's a really good deal on those speakers
They are currently pluged in the garage.
They sound really good but i figured i would also order def tech and compare.
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I currently got the PSB CS 500 mounted in my garage (my shed is not builded yet) and i love to listen while i cook on the BBQ (curently have to cook in driveway because my yard is a mud fest)

I think i will order some Def Tech and compare both models and send the others back...Or keep them for the garage. Lol
hah! more is always better right???
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I think the def techs are great. I have a pr of aw5500 in the patio area under roof/eaves. Have a pr of aw6500 coming in which I will put out by the side of the pool under the eaves.

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