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I am planning on a projector setup in an 11' x 22' room. I am thinking about putting speakers behind a projector screen to save some space.
Any recommendations on a budget system?
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How many speakers are you looking to buy?
What's your budget?

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Define a budget. You do have the depth to do an acoustically transparent screen, and host speaker kits, with simple flat back finishes up front.
All that is a massive budget stretcher, fi you can handle some diy projects.
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(3) HT 8, 10 or 12's across the front behind an acoustical screen would be awesome. They have pre-built crossovers and flat packs available. Just need glue, polyfill, clamps and connectors plus a bit of handiness

https://www.diysoundgroup.com/home-t...e-theater.html

If you want ready to go speakers the boston acoustics are very good.

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...ck-each/1.html

or bookshelf speakers.

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...ck-each/1.html
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I am planning on a projector setup in an 11' x 22' room. I am thinking about putting speakers behind a projector screen to save some space.
Any recommendations on a budget system?
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For $600 you could get three of these, (they will sell you a single speaker for the center).

https://emotiva.com/collections/loud...rmotiv-t0-pair

$450 for three of these; decent speakers, my sister in law has them.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107TSI...300-Black.html
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I would look at Emotiva
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Hopefully the OP will come back and give us more information and a budget to work with.

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I guess I would like to keep it under $2,000 for audio.
I was thinking a center, a sub, L/R Front, and then L/R surround - wall or ceiling mounted.
Someone on Reddit was recommending HSU Research packages - I would also like speakers that are good for music, not just movies.
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I guess I would like to keep it under $2,000 for audio.
I was thinking a center, a sub, L/R Front, and then L/R surround - wall or ceiling mounted.
Someone on Reddit was recommending HSU Research packages - I would also like speakers that are good for music, not just movies.
What City are you in as there may be manufacturers near you.

With that budget you could look at the Emotiva T2s.

Subs.

PORTED SUBWOOFERS $600 AND BELOW, DELIVERED

NOTE:
*THE LARGER PORTED SUBS DELIVER AT LEAST 40% MORE SOUND PRESSURE LEVEL
THAN THE SAME BRAND'S SEALED VERSION WITH SAME SIZE WOOFER AND AMP
*IF LOOKING AT LARGER/MORE EXPENSIVE SUBWOOFERS ADD PSA TO THE LIST OF BRANDS
*IF YOU ARE NOT AN ACTION MOVIE FAN A SUBWOOFER WITH 22-30HZ EXTENSION WOULD BE FINE
*FOR MUSIC A 30HZ SUB IS A FINE CHOICE
*BEFORE BUYING MAKE A CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF THE SIZE OF THE SUB TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT TOO LARGE FOR YOU
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2 years 350watts =15w21h22d= 62 lbs 12" [18hz] $607 HSU VTF2 MK5, (extension from Audioholics review)
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What City are you in as there may be manufacturers near you.

With that budget you could look at the Emotiva T2s.

Subs.

PORTED SUBWOOFERS $600 AND BELOW, DELIVERED

NOTE:
*THE LARGER PORTED SUBS DELIVER AT LEAST 40% MORE SOUND PRESSURE LEVEL
THAN THE SAME BRAND'S SEALED VERSION WITH SAME SIZE WOOFER AND AMP
*IF LOOKING AT LARGER/MORE EXPENSIVE SUBWOOFERS ADD PSA TO THE LIST OF BRANDS
*IF YOU ARE NOT AN ACTION MOVIE FAN A SUBWOOFER WITH 22-30HZ EXTENSION WOULD BE FINE
*FOR MUSIC A 30HZ SUB IS A FINE CHOICE
*BEFORE BUYING MAKE A CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF THE SIZE OF THE SUB TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT TOO LARGE FOR YOU
Specs are from the manufacturer unless noted otherwise.
Warranty
for AMP
1 year 150watts =12w7h24d= 25 lbs 8" [23hz] $219 EARTHQUAKE LOW PROFILE CP8 (Amazon price)

2 years 350watts =15w16h17d= 40 lbs 10" [30hz] $399 RSL SPEEDWOOFER 10S, (extension from Sound & Vision review)

2 years 250watts =15w19h17d= 42 lbs 10" [25hz] $455 HSU VTF 1 MK3 (extension from Audioholics review)

5 years 300watts =15w19h20d= 46 lbs 10" [18hz] $499 SVS PB1000, (extension from Sound & Vision Review)

5 years 500watts =15w19h20d= 72 lbs 10" [20hz] $500 MONOPRICE MONOLITH THX 10"

3 years 300watts =16w22h21d= 69 lbs* 12" [19hz] $569 RHYTHMIK LV12F

2 years 350watts =15w21h22d= 62 lbs 12" [18hz] $607 HSU VTF2 MK5, (extension from Audioholics review)
* = shipping weight

SEALED SUBWOOFERS $650 AND BELOW, DELIVERED

3 years 300watts =12w13h13d= 27 lbs 10" [24hz] $399 MARTIN LOGAN DYNAMO 700W, limited time offer Amazon.
NOTE: WIRELESS TRANSMITTER INCLUDED

5 years 300watts =13w14h16d= 27 lbs 12" [23hz] $499 SVS SB1000, (extension from Sound & Vision)

5 years 500watts =13w16h21d= 50 lbs 10" [20hz] $500 MONOPRICE MONOLITH MTS10 THX

3 years 300watts =14w14h16d= 58 lbs* 12" [18hz] $539 RHYTHMIK L12

5 years 500watts =14w15h17d= 35 lbs 12" [19hz] $649 SVS SB2000 outlet, (extension from Sound & Vision)
* = shipping weight
I am in Columbus, Ohio.
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I am in Columbus, Ohio.
SVS is in Youngstown and Power Sound Audio is in Mineral Ridge outside of Youngstown.

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SVS is in Youngstown and Power Sound Audio is in Mineral Ridge outside of Youngstown.
I just read a note on the Airmotiv T2s, saying that they need to be placed a few feet away from the wall - I need a sub and front speakers that can be hidden behind a transparent wall.
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I just read a note on the Airmotiv T2s, saying that they need to be placed a few feet away from the wall - I need a sub and front speakers that can be hidden behind a transparent wall.
That is true of all speakers running full range to some extent but MUCH less of a problem when they are crossed over to a subwoofer at 80hz or so.

In that case 6" could work well.

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I just read a note on the Airmotiv T2s, saying that they need to be placed a few feet away from the wall - I need a sub and front speakers that can be hidden behind a transparent wall.
Any speaker that size will benefit from being away from boundaries. If you're putting them behind an AT screen and have subs handling the low end it'll be less of an issue.

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You seem to be in a nice area of speaker vendors

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That is true of all speakers running full range to some extent but MUCH less of a problem when they are crossed over to a subwoofer at 80hz or so.

In that case 6" could work well.
It seems like there are a lot of small audio companies out there - SVS, Emotiva, HSU Research - is there any glaring difference between them?
I can get a HSU 5.1 set-up for much less than anything at SVS.
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It seems like there are a lot of small audio companies out there - SVS, Emotiva, HSU Research - is there any glaring difference between them?
I can get a HSU 5.1 set-up for much less than anything at SVS.
HSU and Emotiva offer much better value/performance. Emotiva on speakers and HSU on subs. The HSU speakers are pretty efficient and will be easier to drive than Emotiva. A Hybrid 2 package with a 2nd VTF-2 will have slightly over budget after shipping, but will surely have you smiling ear to ear.
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I’ve built a budgeting diy theater in a slightly smaller room. I’ve got an All KEF Q series 5 channel. Also have HSU CCB8s as an LCR plus I’ve demo’d q acoustics, Emotiva, RBH, ELAC, and Chane. I’d recommend to start with subwoofers and think about how you are going to acoustically treat the room. As much as I love playing around with speakers, level matched at -10 to -15db where most folks listen it’s going to be hard to tell big differences between speakers.
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HSU and Emotiva offer much better value/performance. Emotiva on speakers and HSU on subs. The HSU speakers are pretty efficient and will be easier to drive than Emotiva. A Hybrid 2 package with a 2nd VTF-2 will have slightly over budget after shipping, but will surely have you smiling ear to ear.
I had been looking at the HSU Hybrid 2, with one sub, and the rear surrounds as the in-wall option.
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I had been looking at the HSU Hybrid 2, with one sub, and the rear surrounds as the in-wall option.
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It seems the OP has discounted DIY, but with that budget and an AT screen I'd surely be looking at DIYSG HT-10s and a 4x JBL CS1214s in prebuilt enclosures. I'd round things out with an iNuke 3000 DSP, refurb Denon x4500h, Bic Formula FH8-W in-walls for surrounds. This in 5.1/5.2 would hit the budget... expanding it to 7.1.4 with another pair of FH8-Ws and 4x Dayton in-ceilings for Atmos would push you to ~$2250.
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It seems the OP has discounted DIY, but with that budget and an AT screen I'd surely be looking at DIYSG HT-10s and a 4x JBL CS1214s in prebuilt enclosures. I'd round things out with an iNuke 3000 DSP, refurb Denon x4500h, Bic Formula FH8-W in-walls for surrounds. This in 5.1/5.2 would hit the budget... expanding it to 7.1.4 with another pair of FH8-Ws and 4x Dayton in-ceilings for Atmos would push you to ~$2250.
Can you tell me a little more about this system, as in why you would go with this? How does it compare with the HSU packages?
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At the most basic level, with equal budgets, DIY usually wins out. Going deeper, the SEOS Waveguide-based speakers from DIY Sound Group offer superb efficiency, wide dispersion, and are really effortless even powered by a basic AVR. The JBL subs are a proven inexpensive driver that have been built in every configuration imaginable, and going 2x2 in prefabricated sealed enclosures will eliminate the need to work with large cuts of MDF. The Bic FH8 in-walls will match the efficiency and, somewhat, the dispersion of the DIYSG mains and the Dayton in-ceilings are more than capable for the high-crossover nature of Atmos. The Denon X4500H can be had for a great price refurbished from A4C or from time-to-time just as cheap new from Fry's if you get on their mailing list, and it offers MultEQ XT32 room correction, use of the MultEQ Editor app for fine tuning, 9 channels of capable power, pre-outs so you can add more power if/when you ever feel the need, and the flexibility to drive whatever other rooms/systems if you have unused amp channels. The iNuke 3000DSP will be plenty of power for the four JBL subs (or even 4-5 more) and its DSP capabilities allow you to tune in-room response beyond even what Audyssey does, and also provides the needed DSP boosts to get the JBLs down into the 20Hz range. Since you'll be using an AT screen, the main speakers and subs can go behind it and never be seen, so you don't need to put much of a premium on looks... flat black or duratex for the mains will do the trick and the sub enclosures will come pre-carpeted. Overall, it just seems my proposed system would squeeze every drop of performance out of the given budget as long as you're ok with the extra effort associated with DIY, and likely rival most/any retail/commercial system in 2-4x the price range.
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Also, if you don't want to do DIY, I'd consider 3 of the Bic FH-65B or 3 of the FH6-LCR along with the FH-8W for surrounds, along with the other subs recommended above (or stick with the JBLs & iNuke, there's not really any heavy construction lifting required to "DIY" those). The efficiency and dynamics are impressive for the size/price and can fill a much larger room on less power than you'd expect given the price point.
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