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Dayton + sub or pioneer towers?

Hi, I'm in Uruguay and I'm looking for speakers to start a 4.0 or 4.1 (without central)
I can bring a speaker from USA, OR BUY what is available here.
My room is 10x13 feet.

The options I currently handle for a cost, weight, and installation issue in my room are:

1) Dayton Audio B652 air. (x4) Since I can install them closed to the wall because they do not have bass reflex. (I do not have a piece of furniture to support them) + Some subwoofer that I get in the local market, Yamaha Nssw100 for example.

2) Pioneer Towers FS52 (x2) + 2 bookshelf (I suppose the BS22 or it would be easier to install 2 Dayton B652) without a subwoofer.

Both options are around 500usd.

I had originally thought pioneer bs22 x 4 + sub, but I'm not comfortable installing it on the wall or on furniture that I do not have for those places.

In option 2, could I mix dayton with the fs52?
I appreciate comments.
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A sub is key to a good system. I would go with whatever option allows you to get a subwoofer. However, if you can wait and buy a little now and a little later you can get the best system possible. What I mean is get the Pioneer towers and subwoofer now, and then wait to get your surrounds.

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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Thanks!

I forgot to say that I will use it for surround music preferably.
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Hi, I'm in Uruguay and I'm looking for speakers to start a 4.0 or 4.1 (without central)
I can bring a speaker from USA, OR BUY what is available here.
My room is 10x13 feet.

The options I currently handle for a cost, weight, and installation issue in my room are:

1) Dayton Audio B652 air. (x4) Since I can install them closed to the wall because they do not have bass reflex. (I do not have a piece of furniture to support them) + Some subwoofer that I get in the local market, Yamaha Nssw100 for example.

2) Pioneer Towers FS52 (x2) + 2 bookshelf (I suppose the BS22 or it would be easier to install 2 Dayton B652) without a subwoofer.

Both options are around 500usd.

I had originally thought pioneer bs22 x 4 + sub, but I'm not comfortable installing it on the wall or on furniture that I do not have for those places.

In option 2, could I mix dayton with the fs52?
I appreciate comments.
I'd get two pairs of JBL B15's. The will be much better than the Dayton and Pioneer and leave you more money for a better sub.
https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Bookshelf...s%2C140&sr=8-1

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Hi, I'm in Uruguay and I'm looking for speakers to start a 4.0 or 4.1 (without central)
I can bring a speaker from USA, OR BUY what is available here.
My room is 10x13 feet.

The options I currently handle for a cost, weight, and installation issue in my room are:

1) Dayton Audio B652 air. (x4) Since I can install them closed to the wall because they do not have bass reflex. (I do not have a piece of furniture to support them) + Some subwoofer that I get in the local market, Yamaha Nssw100 for example.

2) Pioneer Towers FS52 (x2) + 2 bookshelf (I suppose the BS22 or it would be easier to install 2 Dayton B652) without a subwoofer.

Both options are around 500usd.

I had originally thought pioneer bs22 x 4 + sub, but I'm not comfortable installing it on the wall or on furniture that I do not have for those places.

In option 2, could I mix dayton with the fs52?
I appreciate comments.
Four of these sealed speakers with 6.5" main drivers would be better than anything posted thus far IMHO and are an absolute steal at the moment.

$100 under your budget.

https://www.amazon.com/NHT-SuperOne-.../dp/B00LJX4HCY
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I did not clarify that 500 USD is including shipments to Uruguay or with local prices that are higher than those of Amazon.

Buy in those nht I get minimum 700usd including shipping.
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For mainly music I would skip the Dayton

The NHT is a real nice option for you if budget permits -- the Pioneer towers and bookshelf are not bad for music -- the JBL Arena B15 is OK for music, but will need a sub

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I did not clarify that 500 USD is including shipments to Uruguay or with local prices that are higher than those of Amazon.

Buy in those nht I get minimum 700usd including shipping.
I would look on the used market Like Craigslist or whatever you have locally. For $500 including shipping you're not going get very high quality speakers. What do you available locally within budget?

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Thank you very much for your kind answers.
The jbl b15 that you have recommended me to 100 the pair can go into my budget. I also like it more in terms of its installation near the wall.
I do not have many options in the local market is very limited and expensive.
For all of you then it is better option jbl b15 x 4 + sub instead of pioneers x 4 + sub?
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I am also looking at some of these bookshelf speakers for my system and had Dayton MK442 on my list to use vertically and for all surrounds.
It gets good reviews as a vertically mounted surround too
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...eaker--300-456


I don't mean to hijack this thread but since we are looking at the same range of speakers does anybody have actual experience of those mentioned and would you recommend any of them over the others for using as all 7 bed level speakers in a 20x14x9' Atmos HT room where the bass is already taken care of ?


I am really tempted by the MK442 or the JBL B15 but just worried they will be too "small", but max listening distance from any one speaker is just on 10' so maybe they will be ok ?
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I do not have many options in the local market is very limited and expensive.
For all of you then it is better option jbl b15 x 4 + sub instead of pioneers x 4 + sub?
For your needs and restrictions -- the JBL and sub will be nice/decent
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How about the NHT super-zero mini speakers at 62 usd each? (Instead of the superone)
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How about the NHT super-zero mini speakers at 62 usd each? (Instead of the superone)
The Super-zero's are good speakers, but will not have a lot of depth and dynamics so you will need a good sub that handle a 110-120hz crossover. The Super one with 6.5" driver would be best for your purpose, but if they're out of budget, the JBL's are your next best option . You'll still need a sub though. Dayton and Micca would be fine for surround duty. They would still be better than TV speakers up front, but there are better options.

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Hello, I finally bought 2 super zeros to try them. I also have an 8-inch Yamaha sub.
For music will be better 4 superzeros in total or 2 superones for the front and the 2 SZ as surround?
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Hello, I finally bought 2 super zeros to try them. I also have an 8-inch Yamaha sub.
For music will be better 4 superzeros in total or 2 superones for the front and the 2 SZ as surround?
They share the identical tweeter but the Super One plays 30hz lower so, for me, if I'm using the system for music and movies I'd get the larger speakers for the fronts.

With either you'd need a sub even for music but the larger speaker up front would allow for a lower crossover.

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