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I've owned carreras which were fantastic, and now have continuum and Paul K's duet at home. Both are destined for my friend's place but will get ample play time in my living room. Will update the thread when i get around to building them.
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And now i see that Philharmonic's BMR monitor may be headed to meniscus! If both the parties can make this happen, then it'd be great for the DIY community!
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And now i see that Philharmonic's BMR monitor may be headed to meniscus! If both the parties can make this happen, then it'd be great for the DIY community!

If this happens I'll buy a kit the day they hit the store...
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If this happens I'll buy a kit the day they hit the store...
I wrote to Meniscus today. I'll let you know what Mark says. I think the cabinets are going to be a problem--I doubt we'll be able to source any prefabs.
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I wrote to Meniscus today. I'll let you know what Mark says. I think the cabinets are going to be a problem--I doubt we'll be able to source any prefabs.
It would be pretty awesome if plans could be had for small towers, I assume with the same internal volume maybe? Or slightly adjusted crossovers for a little extra volume. Or maybe that's a terrible idea all together.

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It would be pretty awesome if plans could be had for small towers, I assume with the same internal volume maybe? Or slightly adjusted crossovers for a little extra volume. Or maybe that's a terrible idea all together.
I've sold a couple of pairs of tower BMR's. They were basically the size of two BMR monitors stacked. The bottom was a complete dummy--it didn't add to the interior volume, because the monitor volume was already optimal. No changes in the crossover were needed.
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I've owned carreras which were fantastic, and now have continuum and Paul K's duet at home. Both are destined for my friend's place but will get ample play time in my living room. Will update the thread when i get around to building them.
What did you think of the Carreras? That was possibly my next build (depending upon any of the Dennis Murphy bookshelf plans making it there or not).
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What did you think of the Carreras? That was possibly my next build (depending upon any of the Dennis Murphy bookshelf plans making it there or not).

I loved them. The voicing is definitely tuned more towards "fun" as opposed to being neutral. I actually had Paul K design a MLTL floorstander version, when i came across a SB Acoustics Ara kit, and sold the carrera. I would buy it back in a heartbeat though. Its that good.

The ara is more like your typical audiophile speaker ... junk in junk out.



I really hope that BMR along with all other Dennis Murphy designs show up on Meniscus. I owned ER18MTM designed by him from Meniscus earlier as well. And they too were fantastic. But with my habit of constantly trying to see what else is out there, i sold them to a local texas buyer who still has them with him.
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I wrote to Meniscus today. I'll let you know what Mark says. I think the cabinets are going to be a problem--I doubt we'll be able to source any prefabs.

I'm crossing my fingers so hard that i hope they won't fuse together!


As luck would have it ... i have a pair of prefab PE 1 cu ft cabs (curved side) sitting in my closet Hmm ...
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I wrote to Meniscus today. I'll let you know what Mark says. I think the cabinets are going to be a problem--I doubt we'll be able to source any prefabs.


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It would be pretty awesome if plans could be had for small towers, I assume with the same internal volume maybe? Or slightly adjusted crossovers for a little extra volume. Or maybe that's a terrible idea all together. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/IMG]
I've sold a couple of pairs of tower BMR's. They were basically the size of two BMR monitors stacked. The bottom was a complete dummy--it didn't add to the interior volume, because the monitor volume was already optimal. No changes in the crossover were needed.
Ah yea that would be easy to do.

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I loved them. The voicing is definitely tuned more towards "fun" as opposed to being neutral.

Very interesting. I may try a Carrera kit if that's the case.

I much prefer fun vs. neutral in a speaker like that.
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Very interesting. I may try a Carrera kit if that's the case.



I much prefer fun vs. neutral in a speaker like that.


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I'm intrigued by the 3-way designs that are right in the former BMR price range - though they are towers rather than stand-mounts. The Testarossa and the Bordeaux.

@fuzz092888 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-d...ssa-build.html comparing to Philharmonic 3's and some tweeter talk

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A really interesting take on the Testarossa as a curved-back, aluminum-braced and faced stand-mount: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...aal-satori-tmm

Inspiring, though most of us probably won't have access to the tools and machines required.

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I think the cabinets are going to be a problem--I doubt we'll be able to source any prefabs.
Why would that be? Not denying you, just wondering

The BMR technology is interesting. Back some time ago, I was doing research with honeycomb cones. This was before NXT quantified distributed-mode behavior, which I suspect my various honeycomb cones were engaging in. Certainly the honeycombs had incredible off-axis dispersion, really wide. My only question mark about the BMR mid with conventional woofer + tweeter is IIRC the distributed-mode has a different kind of time response. I hope they show these at T.H.E. Show.

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Auricle, a precursor to the Testarossa, build: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...l-satori-combo

Appears to no longer be available, but I'm sure you could build a Testarossa with just one woofer.

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Anyone heard the Micro Statements? They use the Fountek NeoCD3 tweeter along with what looks like a nice Peerless 5.25" Fiber cone woofer in about a .38 cuft box.

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I've sold a couple of pairs of tower BMR's. They were basically the size of two BMR monitors stacked. The bottom was a complete dummy--it didn't add to the interior volume, because the monitor volume was already optimal. No changes in the crossover were needed.
I wonder if the BMR would benefit from a MLTL cabinet designed by Paul K?
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I wonder if the BMR would benefit from a MLTL cabinet designed by Paul K?
I had Paul model the Scan 8545-01 in a TL application, and it didn't work as well as a traditional bass reflex.
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I had Paul model the Scan 8545-01 in a TL application, and it didn't work as well as a traditional bass reflex.
How about both? A very interesting video I ran across tonight:
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I watched that the other night. That was quite a slick little anechoic chamber he built. I'd never heard of that kind of hybrid alignment, and I think he said it was developed in the '40's or '50's. Good stuff.
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I watched that the other night. That was quite a slick little anechoic chamber he built. I'd never heard of that kind of hybrid alignment, and I think he said it was developed in the '40's or '50's. Good stuff.
Watched this one, along with the one of the flat panels with the Dayton actuators. Oh, for a two story barn to "play" around in! "Best" does, unfortunately, rarely means practical - even when "cheap" - for those with limited space or significant others to deal with. Even the Voight design, given their height, are not really practical for most people and rooms. Still, really cool and enjoyable. Takes me back to my college days.
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Folks who are interested in the BMR kit, start forming a line ! Give your number to Mark and he’ll call you as soon as the kit is ready.


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Man if Ryan wasn’t so close to me, I would definitely hop in line....

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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What will the "kit" entail? Drivers and crossover only? Baffle option? Cabinet option?

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I'm still hammering out details. There's another group interested in offering the kit, and they have access to finished and routed corian and bamboo cabinets. I think Mark can obtain cabinets as well, but I'll have to see what the details are.
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I'm still hammering out details. There's another group interested in offering the kit, and they have access to finished and routed corian and bamboo cabinets. I think Mark can obtain cabinets as well, but I'll have to see what the details are.


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