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$312 on Amazon today which is lower than Crutchfield but not $140.
https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-26.../dp/B004L9GWSK
We must not be looking at same speaker?
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Which sub?

I would stay away from 8" in walls in any room but especially a small room.
why stay away from the 8" in walls
even if my room is 23 x 14 room dedicated theater room?
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We must not be looking at same speaker?
That's a great price for what seems like a great speaker.

Crutchfield reviews are far more reliable than Amazon's and the lowest rating was 4 stars.

An in wall speaker you want as much dispersion as possible because you cannot swivel the woofers which handle every frequency below about 2700hz.

An 8" woofer offers less dispersion than a 6.5" woofer using the same size tweeter.

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That's a great price for what seems like a great speaker.

Crutchfield reviews are far more reliable than Amazon's and the lowest rating was 4 stars.

An in wall speaker you want as much dispersion as possible because you cannot swivel the woofers which handle every frequency below about 2700hz.

An 8" woofer offers less dispersion than a 6.5" woofer using the same size tweeter.
Ok thank you I didn't understand why a 8" is bad in walls but a 6.5 is good in walls lol makes sense now so basically it has one point of sound , straight ahead and doesn't disperse to other parts of room.
so if money was somewhat of a issue but not that much what set up would you go with for 2 fronts, 2 sides and 2 rears and 2 ceiling speakers.
or is this overkill for a 23 x 14 x 8 room?
Also any particular speaker wire or just any in Wall Audio Speaker Cable Wire CL2 14/2 AWG Gauge 2 Conductor

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That's a great price for what seems like a great speaker.

Crutchfield reviews are far more reliable than Amazon's and the lowest rating was 4 stars.

An in wall speaker you want as much dispersion as possible because you cannot swivel the woofers which handle every frequency below about 2700hz.

An 8" woofer offers less dispersion than a 6.5" woofer using the same size tweeter.
are you saying it is two different quality of speakers but same speaker , if the speakers are the same why would I not buy them from Amazon if they are way less.
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are you saying it is two different quality of speakers but same speaker , if the speakers are the same why would I not buy them from Amazon if they are way less.
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-M-8C-Ce...NN84F16QQN4ZYG

Is this a better option cause of the pivoting woofer.
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love the analogy looks like it's going to be the speedwoofer 10 just can't swing it this week. Need to buy a lawn mower

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https://www.amazon.com/Micca-M-8C-Ce...NN84F16QQN4ZYG

Is this a better option cause of the pivoting woofer.
That's a pivoting tweeter like the Polk in walls which you should get from Amazon.

If you can afford to get enough of them they can be used for all positions other than in ceiling.

The Micas would probably be just fine for in ceiling Atmos effects.

Buy your speaker wire from Monoprice.

14 gauge pure copper should be just fine.

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That's a pivoting tweeter like the Polk in walls which you should get from Amazon.

If you can afford to get enough of them they can be used for all positions other than in ceiling.

The Micas would probably be just fine for in ceiling Atmos effects.

Buy your speaker wire from Monoprice.

14 gauge pure copper should be just fine.
Awesome Thanks, I appreciate the help Kinda new to this and not 100% sure on what to do?
Build a stage for subs to be under , put sub in back lol which speakers, which reciever so many options and such little time to plan lol
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Awesome Thanks, I appreciate the help Kinda new to this and not 100% sure on what to do?
Build a stage for subs to be under , put sub in back lol which speakers, which reciever so many options and such little time to plan lol
Are you trying to accomplish 5.2.2 or 5.2.4?

As to sub placement, here's SVS's take.

https://www.svsound.com/blogs/svs/75...ofer-placement

https://www.svsound.com/blogs/svs/75040195-why-go-dual

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Are you trying to accomplish 5.2.2 or 5.2.4?

As to sub placement, here's SVS's take.

https://www.svsound.com/blogs/svs/75...ofer-placement

https://www.svsound.com/blogs/svs/75040195-why-go-dual
5.1.2 well at least I thought not really sure I built columns on each side to house speakers but now I think it would be better to have the columns up front and then 2 speakers on each side and a 2 in back or ceiling I want a good system but not go deaf or have overkill.
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5.1.2 well at least I thought not really sure I built columns on each side to house speakers but now I think it would be better to have the columns up front and then 2 speakers on each side and a 2 in back or ceiling I want a good system but not go deaf or have overkill.
Denon 1500 is at a nice price.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVX...VR-X1500H.html

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I absolutely Love Denon I have a Denon receiver at this moment
I think you should just pick out my system......

Can you do that for me pick out my speakers, sub and I will just buy it and be happy with it!
It is way better to have an experienced individual tell you what you should go with then to attempt to guess what you think would sound good. Then buy the wrong stuff and send it back 30 times. I just want a Good Quality Decent sound theater room for movies, gaming, and Football.
I would like 2 speakers in front 4 on sides and 2 in ceiling probably just 1 sub woofer or 2 sub woofers.
I have Cerwin Vega huge box speakers at the moment the R series Awesome speakers but take up way too much room.
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I absolutely Love Denon I have a Denon receiver at this moment
I think you should just pick out my system......

Can you do that for me pick out my speakers, sub and I will just buy it and be happy with it!
It is way better to have an experienced individual tell you what you should go with then to attempt to guess what you think would sound good. Then buy the wrong stuff and send it back 30 times. I just want a Good Quality Decent sound theater room for movies, gaming, and Football.
I would like 2 speakers in front 4 on sides and 2 in ceiling probably just 1 sub woofer or 2 sub woofers.
I have Cerwin Vega huge box speakers at the moment the R series Awesome speakers but take up way too much room.
Ha ha ha.

So, no center speaker?

Budget?

Why not re use your current Denon or is it just 5.1?

You may have answered this already but where are you located?

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Ha ha ha.

So, no center speaker?

Budget?

Why not re use your current Denon or is it just 5.1?

You may have answered this already but where are you located?
yes center speaker as well,
4,000 well so we took a loan for home improvement, a patio for 6800 -15,000 leaves = 8,200
drywall and finish $4000 leaves 4,200 ( this is for entire basement)
electrical we are doing so 1300 for fixtures, leaves $2,900

plus 8,000 we had saved up so I would say 3,000 to 4,000 for theater sounds

but not really decided yet potentially 6,000 still have pool table , seating,
The Denon I have now is 5.1 dolby digital about 6 years old

The below diagram is what I was thinking. Let me know what your thoughts are.
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yes center speaker as well,
4,000 well so we took a loan for home improvement, a patio for 6800 -15,000 leaves = 8,200
drywall and finish $4000 leaves 4,200 ( this is for entire basement)
electrical we are doing so 1300 for fixtures, leaves $2,900

plus 8,000 we had saved up so I would say 3,000 to 4,000 for theater sounds

but not really decided yet potentially 6,000 still have pool table , seating,
The Denon I have now is 5.1 dolby digital about 6 years old

The below diagram is what I was thinking. Let me know what your thoughts are.
maybe for budget a 7.2 would be best ?
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maybe for budget a 7.2 would be best ?
Let's see what 5.1.4 comes to.

Denon 4400 from Amazon is $899

HSU VTF2 sub is $607

Four Polk Polk Audio RC60i from Crutchfield are $260

Five Chane A2.4s are $1245 + $125 shipping when they come back in stock "soon."

So that's $3136 for 5.1.4.

Add a second HSU if you think you need it and your total is $3743 for 5.2.4 with dynamic speakers, excellent subs and great EQ in the receiver that dials in dual subs.

If you want to step up to the RSL in ceilings your total moves up to $3983.

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Let's see what 5.1.4 comes to.

Denon 4400 from Amazon is $899

HSU VTF2 sub is $607

Four Polk Polk Audio RC60i from Crutchfield are $260

Five Chane A2.4s are $1245 + $125 shipping when they come back in stock "soon."

So that's $3136 for 5.1.4.

Add a second HSU if you think you need it and your total is $3743 for 5.2.4 with dynamic speakers, excellent subs and great EQ in the receiver that dials in dual subs.

If you want to step up to the RSL in ceilings your total moves up to $3983.
Perfect now what are rsl lol
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Perfect now what are rsl lol
Sorry, these:

https://rslspeakers.com/c34e-ceiling-speaker/

https://hometheaterreview.com/rsl-c3...aker-reviewed/

I must tell you I am recommending speakers I've never heard but they are one of the most "I bought these and I love them" speakers on AVS in their price range.

I have heard the smaller HSU VTF1 sub and it was very well made and sounded very very good and the VTF2 is better still and is another AVS "I bought this and I love it" product in your price range.

Denon with Audyssey XT32 is a no brainer and one member did 5.1.4 Atmos with Polk level in ceilings and then switched to the RSLs but wondered if any "improvement" in the Atmos sound was his imagination as the cheaper speakers worked very well for the minimal demands of Atmos effects, (in his opinion).

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Sorry, these:

https://rslspeakers.com/c34e-ceiling-speaker/

https://hometheaterreview.com/rsl-c3...aker-reviewed/

I must tell you I am recommending speakers I've never heard but they are one of the most "I bought these and I love them" speakers on AVS in their price range.

I have heard the smaller HSU VTF1 sub and it was very well made and sounded very very good and the VTF2 is better still and is another AVS "I bought this and I love it" product in your price range.

Denon with Audyssey XT32 is a no brainer and one member did 5.1.4 Atmos with Polk level in ceilings and then switched to the RSLs but wondered if any "improvement" in the Atmos sound was his imagination as the cheaper speakers worked very well for the minimal demands of Atmos effects, (in his opinion).
this is my sub I am using right now

https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect...getName=sp_atf


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Sorry, these:

https://rslspeakers.com/c34e-ceiling-speaker/

https://hometheaterreview.com/rsl-c3...aker-reviewed/

I must tell you I am recommending speakers I've never heard but they are one of the most "I bought these and I love them" speakers on AVS in their price range.

I have heard the smaller HSU VTF1 sub and it was very well made and sounded very very good and the VTF2 is better still and is another AVS "I bought this and I love it" product in your price range.

Denon with Audyssey XT32 is a no brainer and one member did 5.1.4 Atmos with Polk level in ceilings and then switched to the RSLs but wondered if any "improvement" in the Atmos sound was his imagination as the cheaper speakers worked very well for the minimal demands of Atmos effects, (in his opinion).
here is the receiver I guess it is a 7.1

Denon AVR790 7.1-Channel Multi-Zone Home Theater Receiver with 1080p HDMI Connectivity

I t worked so far but this is not the same setup I used before this is a dedicated theater room
Oh by the way I'm in Iowa.


https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR790-...r=8-3-fkmrnull
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Sorry, these:

https://rslspeakers.com/c34e-ceiling-speaker/

https://hometheaterreview.com/rsl-c3...aker-reviewed/

I must tell you I am recommending speakers I've never heard but they are one of the most "I bought these and I love them" speakers on AVS in their price range.

I have heard the smaller HSU VTF1 sub and it was very well made and sounded very very good and the VTF2 is better still and is another AVS "I bought this and I love it" product in your price range.

Denon with Audyssey XT32 is a no brainer and one member did 5.1.4 Atmos with Polk level in ceilings and then switched to the RSLs but wondered if any "improvement" in the Atmos sound was his imagination as the cheaper speakers worked very well for the minimal demands of Atmos effects, (in his opinion).
Here is the Crappy little projector I was using for watching movies and games.

LOL so bad got 1 star on Amazon


https://www.amazon.com/Acer-MR-JL811.../dp/B015JVG59E
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Dude Is this website Legit?


www.accessories4less.com

A 110watt x 7.2 Marantz receiver 799.99?
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A 110watt x 7.2 Marantz receiver 799.99?


I’ve personally bought from ACC4LESS a half dozen times or more and have zero complaints and completely happy with the products I’ve purchased from them.
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this is my sub I am using right now

https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect...getName=sp_atf


not bad
That's a decent little music sub.

Sadly there are no local makers of high value speakers or subs near Iowa.

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A 110watt x 7.2 Marantz receiver 799.99?
Most of their receivers are factory refurbished which can mean anything from a unit checked and reboxed or repaired and reboxed and many AVS members have bought receivers from them with no complaints.

I bought a factory refurb sub from them when I wanted a second identical one in my secondary room and while the box was a bit beat up the sub looks and works every bit as well as the identical new one I have.

The only thing to caution about them is their very restrictive return policies where you pay full boat on shipping both ways plus a restocking fee so when it comes to speakers I'd only buy a speaker from them I had heard and liked as returns can cost as much as a pair of inexpensive speakers.

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Here is the Crappy little projector I was using for watching movies and games.

LOL so bad got 1 star on Amazon


https://www.amazon.com/Acer-MR-JL811.../dp/B015JVG59E
Another LCR speaker to consider is this well priced RBH speaker.

https://rbhsound.com/r515.php

https://www.audioholics.com/bookshel...eviews/rbh-r-5

Another setup worth considering are Ascend 170s in the corners with a 340 center.

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages.../spkrlist.html

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Another LCR speaker to consider is this well priced RBH speaker.

https://rbhsound.com/r515.php

https://www.audioholics.com/bookshel...eviews/rbh-r-5

Another setup worth considering are Ascend 170s in the corners with a 340 center.

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages.../spkrlist.html
What is everyones thoughts on MICA's or INWALLTECH? or the Polk Audio

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Va...ronics&sr=1-17
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