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Setting up home theater need help with speakers

Hey crew! So I'm setting up my theater. The room size will be 12x13 with 8 foot ceilings. I don't want to go to large with speakers and also don't want to be too small. My Fl FR and Sr SL speakers all have to be in wall. I was looking at these Polk in wall speakers which come in 5.25" 6.5" 8" and I'm not sure if either of these would be enough. I'm close to buying and this is the list I have. Please please make recommendations

4-Polk Audio RC85i 2-way In-wall Speaker 
1-BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing
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Hey crew! So I'm setting up my theater. The room size will be 12x13 with 8 foot ceilings. I don't want to go to large with speakers and also don't want to be too small. My Fl FR and Sr SL speakers all have to be in wall. I was looking at these Polk in wall speakers which come in 5.25" 6.5" 8" and I'm not sure if either of these would be enough. I'm close to buying and this is the list I have. Please please make recommendations

4-Polk Audio RC85i 2-way In-wall Speaker 
1-BIC America F12 12-Inch 475-Watt Front Firing
1-Polk Audio Signature Series S35 Center Channel 

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All that looks good other than the subwoofer.

I'd also recommend the RC55i or RC65i for that small a space as their smaller woofers will have better off axis performance which is something you want in an in wall speaker especially.

Are any of these subs within budget?

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Hey I reallyappreciate the reply so I found out those speakers wouldn't fit where I need them for FL and FR ak actually ordered the Audio 265-RT 3-Way in-Wall Speakers. I wouldn't want to spend too much on a sub at the moment. I do like action movies,gaming,and music. What is wrong with that particular sub?

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Hey I reallyappreciate the reply so I found out those speakers wouldn't fit where I need them for FL and FR ak actually ordered the Audio 265-RT 3-Way in-Wall Speakers. I wouldn't want to spend too much on a sub at the moment. I do like action movies,gaming,and music. What is wrong with that particular sub?

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Those are better in walls for sure.

Compared to the subs I listed it is a bit "one note" but some AVS member like BIC subs.

This would be a better alternative unless it is still too much at $299.


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If I can I keep sub cost around $300 I'd be happy. That's a nice sub I'll definitely consider that. You think the 8" Polk in wall speakers will be good for the surrounds or should I also get the 3 way ones that match front? I will be doing 7.1 for now just to get going eventually well be 9 1 atmis

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All the subs Geoff recommended would be better options than BIC sub. If budget is a major concern here are a couple of options from Boston Acoustic and Yamaha. In the case of the Yamaha sub, I would get 2 of them.

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I see some reliability issues with that sub

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Which sub?

I would stay away from 8" in walls in any room but especially a small room.

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If I can I keep sub cost around $300 I'd be happy. That's a nice sub I'll definitely consider that. You think the 8" Polk in wall speakers will be good for the surrounds or should I also get the 3 way ones that match front? I will be doing 7.1 for now just to get going eventually well be 9 1 atmis

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If you can go to $400 ($399), the RSL Speedwoofer would be much better than the Bic. I own a Bic F-12 and it's boomy and not very accurate. Could do ok for movies in a smaller room, but there are much better subs available.
https://rslspeakers.com/products/rsl-speedwoofer-10s/
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I would stay away from 8" in walls in any room but especially a small room.
The jbl

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Alright so the 6.5" in wall polks should be option than the 8s .... Should I go with the 5.25s?

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Now to decide on the jbl or speedwoofer 10s they both look solid. Ugh what to do

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Between those two the RSL every day of the week and twice on Sundays!
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you guys are killing me hahaha looks like I'm going to go with the rsl. Don't wanna buy something else and be unhappy with it, done that too many times

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you guys are killing me hahaha looks like I'm going to go with the rsl. Don't wanna buy something else and be unhappy with it, done that too many times

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That's exactly why we're trying to steer you away from the Bic.


If you can get the 6.5" speakers, I'd go with those. The 5.25's would be fine for surrounds though.

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Help with speakers system for Home Theatre

My Room for Home Theater is 23 long x 14 wide.
I recently added a soffet the wall with the Insulation is where the screen will be.
What Speakers do you suggest doing, doing In-Wall speakers in columns was looking at
Klipsch-R-5502
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Polk-Audio-RC85i-2-Way-Speakers
Thoughts?

Thanks for your assistance.
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Good news if YOU think it under delivers, free return shipping.

But I suspect you will be very pleased.

"I can fully endorse David Vaughn’s judgment last year that the Speedwoofer 10S is a cut-rate superstar. RSL’s 10-incher delivered unexpected slam down well below 35 Hz on soundtrack cues such as Apollo 13’s blast-off, which it delivered with impressive scale—especially given that my frame of reference is a hulking SVS PC-12 Ultra.

And on material even lower, such as a hi-res file of a Buxtehude pipe-organ chorale setting with a low G pedal tone at about 26 Hz, musically productive fundamental tone was perfectly audible.

One of my favorite subwoofer tests is Lou Reed’s classic “Walk on the Wild Side” played at reference-level-plus—with the front speakers disconnected. A prominently mixed string bass (the lower of the track’s two basses) slides obligingly back and forth between D and G (roughly 75 and 50 Hz), a range that will encompass the maximum output of nearly any subwoofer. Thus, port chuffing, peak/dipping, slapping, or cone breakup will be comparatively easy to hear. The Speedwoofer 10S displayed modest port noise—but only at levels beginning approximately 5 dB above THX reference, a result that earns very high marks in my book and makes the noise entirely inaudible in a fullsystem setting.

I had to work hard to stress it."


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My Room for Home Theater is 23 long x 14 wide.
I recently added a soffet the wall with the Insulation is where the screen will be.
What Speakers do you suggest doing, doing In-Wall speakers in columns was looking at
Klipsch-R-5502
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Polk-Audio-RC85i-2-Way-Speakers
Thoughts?

Thanks for your assistance.
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I would most definitely not buy any Klipsch R series as they are more hated than loved on AVS for being quite shrill so if you think you might buy them you need to listen to some R series cabinet speakers before pulling the trigger.

The Polks are not in that camp and are a good option but not when you can get Revel for a similar price with a better choice of a 6.5" woofer.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_265W26...63.html?tp=192

These would also be a better choice albeit at a slightly higher price point.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107265...RT.html?tp=192

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My Room for Home Theater is 23 long x 14 wide.

I recently added a soffet the wall with the Insulation is where the screen will be.

What Speakers do you suggest doing, doing In-Wall speakers in columns was looking at

Klipsch-R-5502

or



Polk-Audio-RC85i-2-Way-Speakers

Thoughts?



Thanks for your assistance.

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Looks like what I'm doing just bigger

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Ordered 6.5" in wall speakers fir surrounds and the taller 3 ways for front and pilk signature s35 center channel. Haven't ordered sub yet

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[QUOTE=gajCA;58053080]I would most definitely not buy any Klipsch R series as they are more hated than loved on AVS for being quite shrill so if you think you might buy them you need to listen to some R series cabinet speakers before pulling the trigger.


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Help with speakers system for Home Theatre

I have Cerwin Vega R series and wow does it rock but they are huge and bulky and weigh a ton
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Anyone have why experience or info on MartinLogan Dynamo 500 subwoofer? Pretty set on the rsl speedwoofer but if I b save a few bucks that be awesome

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Martin Logan makes good subs that are usually overpriced at full msrp but worth considering when discounted.

It has about 1/3 the power of the RSL though so would "run out of steam" earlier but good choice for smaller rooms with modest volume levels required.

3 years 120watts =13w15h16d= 29 lbs 10" [29hz] $250 MARTIN LOGAN DYNAMO 500, limited time offer

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I would most definitely not buy any Klipsch R series as they are more hated than loved on AVS for being quite shrill so if you think you might buy them you need to listen to some R series cabinet speakers before pulling the trigger.


Polk-Audio-265- ARE $140 on Amazon lol
$312 on Amazon today which is lower than Crutchfield but not $140.

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