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There is a simple answer to your question. Ask your wife!

Mahogany is timeless. Black ash is "modern". I would choose mahogany but that and cherry are my favorites and I am not a millennial with modern desires. Pick what matches the best which I assume is the ash. They are both beautiful and much better than the cheap standard gloss black that graces my theatre. There is no wrong decision here. Pl.. mlm
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There is a simple answer to your question. Ask your wife!

Mahogany is timeless. Black ash is "modern". I would choose mahogany but that and cherry are my favorites and I am not a millennial with modern desires. Pick what matches the best which I assume is the ash. They are both beautiful and much better than the cheap standard gloss black that graces my theatre. There is no wrong decision here. Pl.. mlm
Well I'm not married or dating and never will. But that is a topic for another forum entirely. "Technically" I'm considered a millennial but I don't often care much for modern styles. Perhaps that's why the mahogany is growing on me. However I'm also looking at some Tannoy speakers which are a "dark oak" finish. See links below. I've heard of that brand many times over the years so I've often been curious of how their speakers would sound.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details...equestSource=b - Bookshelf pair
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details...equestSource=b - Centre speaker

The seller said he could have the covers redone in black instead of the grey covers which comes with them.

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I'd personally just match the center to whatever you decide for the mains... if you can get a good enough deal on the towers, go with the matching center. If not, and you go with the bookshelves, go with your gut (whichever way that takes you).

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I'd personally just match the center to whatever you decide for the mains... if you can get a good enough deal on the towers, go with the matching center. If not, and you go with the bookshelves, go with your gut (whichever way that takes you).
Well it seems like I've gone a somewhat different way entirely. So I went to check out a bookshelf/centre set of Tannoy speakers at a sellers house. This is the seller here: https://www.kijiji.ca/o-profile/1015326101/1 He has many speakers and receivers and such for sale. Anyways he had a pair or Polk Audio T600 towers for sale in overall excellent shape. Best Buy (Canada) has them on sale for $199 each. I got the pair from this seller for $360. The only visual difference is that the ones at Best Buy have grey woofers and the ones I bought have blue woofers. However Best Buy has the Polk Monitor 60 Series II for $125 each. They look exactly like the T600 and seem to have the same specs. A pair of those would have been $282 with tax. That's about $80 less than I paid for the T600 from this seller. Now I don't know what I should do. The seller has the matching centre speaker as well which he's planning to bring over tomorrow. What should I do?

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Well it seems like I've gone a somewhat different way entirely. So I went to check out a bookshelf/centre set of Tannoy speakers at a sellers house. This is the seller here: https://www.kijiji.ca/o-profile/1015326101/1 He has many speakers and receivers and such for sale. Anyways he had a pair or Polk Audio T600 towers for sale in overall excellent shape. Best Buy (Canada) has them on sale for $199 each. I got the pair from this seller for $360. The only visual difference is that the ones at Best Buy have grey woofers and the ones I bought have blue woofers. However Best Buy has the Polk Monitor 60 Series II for $125 each. They look exactly like the T600 and seem to have the same specs. A pair of those would have been $282 with tax. That's about $80 less than I paid for the T600 from this seller. Now I don't know what I should do. The seller has the matching centre speaker as well which he's planning to bring over tomorrow. What should I do?
Now I feel bad. That seller's prices are WAY too high for what he sells. I would try and return them and let another...naive purchaser...buy them. I have bought from him before.

If you give us your budget, we can help you get better speakers for the money. I go through Ottawa Kijiji pretty much every day.
1. A pair of great floor standers: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
2. The bookshelf model: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
3. Possible LCR set: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
4. Current-model speakers at a good discount: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
5. If you wanted to go all-in: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-stereo-syste...ationFlag=true
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Now I feel bad. That seller's prices are WAY too high for what he sells. I would try and return them and let another...naive purchaser...buy them. I have bought from him before.

If you give us your budget, we can help you get better speakers for the money. I go through Ottawa Kijiji pretty much every day.
1. A pair of great floor standers: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
2. The bookshelf model: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
3. Possible LCR set: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
4. Current-model speakers at a good discount: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-speakers/ott...ationFlag=true
5. If you wanted to go all-in: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-stereo-syste...ationFlag=true
That Klipsch option is tempting but I'd only need the towers and centre. I doubt the seller would want to split up the set.

As for the Polk T600 I bought. No return option. I can only trade them to him for something else he has to offer. I asked him if he would match the price of the Monitor 60 Series II which seem to be identical to the T600 and he agreed. The Monitor 60 Series II are $282 with tax at Best Buy Canada. I paid him $360 for the T600. He said he would take the difference of $80 and put that towards the matching centre speaker (https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details...equestSource=b) which would bring the price of that to $72.50.

However there is the aforementioned Fluance XL7F towers which I re-inquired about. I offered him $350 (asking price is $450) and he said he'd do $400. Here is the ad link again: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details...equestSource=b So now I'm wondering what I should do. I still have both colour options for the Fluance centre speaker that matches those towers. My room is filling with speakers and I can't make a choice. LOL

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For me, colour is secondary to sound. I would pick the speakers that sound the best.
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For me, colour is secondary to sound. I would pick the speakers that sound the best.
I agree but I also want my room to look pleasing. Truth be told with that logic I could just as easily stay with what I have now. Upgrading is certainly not a need for me right now. But one thing I've often been curious to try is bi-amping my towers. My receiver has the option but would there be any real benefit? If I'm understanding bi-amping correctly it would send two channels of amplification to the speaker instead of one therefore doubling the power the speaker receives. Is that right?

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I agree but I also want my room to look pleasing.
There are enough options out there to get both the sound and look you want. I haven't been able to track what you have currently/are considering/or have bought from all the comments, but speakers are a large enough element in the room that it's worth getting something that looks good when that is important to you.

Fluance has 5-speaker sets in wood veneer for $459 (with free shipping, free returns) for the 5-speaker set based on bookshelves (https://www.fluance.com/xl-series-5-...-system-xl50mc) and for $749 with free shipping and free returns for the tower-based set (https://www.fluance.com/xlhtb-high-p...theater-system). Seems like you would be better off buying a full set of matched speakers than intermixing various speakers and brands (both from an asthetic and audio perspective).

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But one thing I've often been curious to try is bi-amping my towers. My receiver has the option but would there be any real benefit? If I'm understanding bi-amping correctly it would send two channels of amplification to the speaker instead of one therefore doubling the power the speaker receives. Is that right?
Unless you are cranking it to the power limits of your AVR, I can't imagine any real-world benefits of bi-amping.
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There are enough options out there to get both the sound and look you want. I haven't been able to track what you have currently/are considering/or have bought from all the comments, but speakers are a large enough element in the room that it's worth getting something that looks good when that is important to you.

Fluance has 5-speaker sets in wood veneer for $459 (with free shipping, free returns) for the 5-speaker set based on bookshelves (https://www.fluance.com/xl-series-5-...-system-xl50mc) and for $749 with free shipping and free returns for the tower-based set (https://www.fluance.com/xlhtb-high-p...theater-system). Seems like you would be better off buying a full set of matched speakers than intermixing various speakers and brands (both from an asthetic and audio perspective).



Unless you are cranking it to the power limits of your AVR, I can't imagine any real-world benefits of bi-amping.
Keep in mind that I'm in Canada so things are more expensive here. The first set you linked is $610 + 13% tax. The second set is $1,005 +13% tax. Someone locally is selling the towers for $400 and I already have the matching centre. At 45" tall those are fairly big towers. With that in mind I'm tempted to just go with the bookshelf option instead. I can stick with what I have now but it's currently a mixed set of tower and centre from two different series of speakers from Fluance. See picture below. For a while now off and on I've been looking at the ELAC brand and I'm wondering and I'm curious what pairing of bookshelf and centre would be good from them. I've also looked at Dynaudio but perhaps a brand like that is out of reach price wise.

So bi-amping wouldn't improve anything like detail and clarity or imaging?

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Passive bi-amping does nothing except use up good speaker wire and amp channels that can be used for Atmos/zone 2.
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Passive bi-amping does nothing except use up good speaker wire and amp channels that can be used for Atmos/zone 2.
Well my receiver is only 5.1 so I can’t do Atmos anyways. Not that I care for it even if I could. Right now I’m just looking for a really good 3.1 (or 3.2 down the road) setup.
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Keep in mind that I'm in Canada so things are more expensive here. The first set you linked is $610 + 13% tax. The second set is $1,005 +13% tax. Someone locally is selling the towers for $400 and I already have the matching centre. At 45" tall those are fairly big towers. With that in mind I'm tempted to just go with the bookshelf option instead. I can stick with what I have now but it's currently a mixed set of tower and centre from two different series of speakers from Fluance. See picture below. For a while now off and on I've been looking at the ELAC brand and I'm wondering and I'm curious what pairing of bookshelf and centre would be good from them. I've also looked at Dynaudio but perhaps a brand like that is out of reach price wise.

So bi-amping wouldn't improve anything like detail and clarity or imaging?
From a sound perspective, I wouldn't lose any sleep at all about running two different series of speakers within the same brand (Fluance in your case). If you use Crutchfield's "SpeakerCompare" tool, you will hear there are are massive differences in sound qualities across different brands and remarkable consistency within different models of the same brand. The latter is not surprising because they share a lot of the same drivers within a given brand. The difference across brands is pretty stunning in my opinion.

From a sound quality perspective, do you have any reason to replace your existing black mains? I would keep those (again from purely a sound quality perspective) unless the models you are looking at are significantly better.

You have black Fluance towers and want wood. There is probably somebody out there who has wood and would rather have black. Maybe post an ad looking to trade, it make take a little while, but you will probably find somebody who wants to trade.
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From a sound perspective, I wouldn't lose any sleep at all about running two different series of speakers within the same brand (Fluance in your case). If you use Crutchfield's "SpeakerCompare" tool, you will hear there are are massive differences in sound qualities across different brands and remarkable consistency within different models of the same brand. The latter is not surprising because they share a lot of the same drivers within a given brand. The difference across brands is pretty stunning in my opinion.

From a sound quality perspective, do you have any reason to replace your existing black mains? I would keep those (again from purely a sound quality perspective) unless the models you are looking at are significantly better.

You have black Fluance towers and want wood. There is probably somebody out there who has wood and would rather have black. Maybe post an ad looking to trade, it make take a little while, but you will probably find somebody who wants to trade.
I don't even mind that my towers are black. But it would be nice if the drivers were of a different contrasting colour. But yes a nice wood finish would be great. Something like the Dynaudio pictured below. As for sound quality I think what I have sounds good. I'm no audiophile so I probably wouldn't be able to notice a difference of sound from speakers of higher price than what I have.
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