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Best system for my budget

What are the best speakers and sub(s) for me with a $5000 budget. System will be in an untreated garage and 100% will be used for tv and movies. I can extend to $6000 if I can get Atmos speakers as well.

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I can't speak for the whole system but for the Atmos get RSL C34 they are phenomenal.
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I can't speak for the whole system but for the Atmos get RSL C34 they are phenomenal.
Also, no in wall or ceiling. I was looking at Klipsch RP-8060FA for 6 of the speakers with a RP-504C as the center. Horns are the best for movies and TV, correct?

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Also, no in wall or ceiling. I was looking at Klipsch RP-8060FA for 6 of the speakers with a RP-504C as the center. Horns are the best for movies and TV, correct?

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That is a false premise. Depending on the circumstances, horns can be the solution, but that is not always true.

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In an untreated garage? Not the most comfortable place to watch movies, but it's your space. Keep in mind "untreated" means the room won't tolerate really high SPL due to all of the reflections.

But here's one take on the "best" $5k surround system that maybe keeps some of those reflections to a minimum. I was about to recommend JTR, but since you are looking at surrounds, those will blow your budget. If you skip surrounds, give JTR a look. Probably better to spend some money on absorption, though.

Speakers: PSA Bookshelf System, best with 5xMT-110 unless you really need a horizontal center (MT-110C). Choose MT-110SR if you need easier wall mounting for surrounds, keeping in mind they reach -3dB at 80Hz whereas the bookshelves go down to 70Hz.
Subwoofer: PSA V1510
Atmos: RSL Outsider II (2 pair)

Total: $4924.94

You will need some stands and 14awg speaker wire.

Those height speakers won't keep up with the PSAs if you decide to push to reference levels, but that would be ungodly loud and probably lead to hearing loss anyway. But they are purported to be really good, and ready to mount. The current consensus seems to be that the Atmos speakers aren't really pushed hard and much more speaker would be overkill.

Now...I would suggest covering at least part of the wall behind you with absorption, and putting down a good rug between your seats and the speakers. That can make a big difference to the quality of your sound and comfort.
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In an untreated garage? Not the most comfortable place to watch movies, but it's your space. Keep in mind "untreated" means the room won't tolerate really high SPL due to all of the reflections.



But here's one take on the "best" $5k surround system that maybe keeps some of those reflections to a minimum. I was about to recommend JTR, but since you are looking at surrounds, those will blow your budget. If you skip surrounds, give JTR a look. Probably better to spend some money on absorption, though.



Speakers: PSA Bookshelf System, best with 5xMT-110 unless you really need a horizontal center (MT-110C). Choose MT-110SR if you need easier wall mounting for surrounds, keeping in mind they reach -3dB at 80Hz whereas the bookshelves go down to 70Hz.

Subwoofer: PSA V1510

Atmos: RSL Outsider II (2 pair)



Total: $4924.94



You will need some stands and 14awg speaker wire.



Those height speakers won't keep up with the PSAs if you decide to push to reference levels, but that would be ungodly loud and probably lead to hearing loss anyway. But they are purported to be really good, and ready to mount. The current consensus seems to be that the Atmos speakers aren't really pushed hard and much more speaker would be overkill.



Now...I would suggest covering at least part of the wall behind you with absorption, and putting down a good rug between your seats and the speakers. That can make a big difference to the quality of your sound and comfort.
I will take a look at your recommendations. Thank you for all the info.

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I would agree with some of the posts above.. Even the best speakers will sound terrible in an untreated garage. My advise would be start with a 5.1 system (or 5.1.2) and spend the $$ saved on sound treatments. Look at GIK Acoustics, ATS Acoustics or Real Traps.

Does your budget include cost of a receiver?

Spend the least amount of money on the Atmos speakers - since they only produce atmospheric sounds, it won’t be noticeable if they are a different brand. Plenty of options from Pioneer and Elac etc the 200-300 per pair range

HSU and Rythmik make good subwoofers in the 500-600 range, a 12” ported sub would work well. And would make it easy to add a second sub (for more even bass, and more volume) at a later date. Without room treatments, your bass will likely sound boomy and muddled - so larger/more subs will be wasted.


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Since it is a garage, how important are aesthetics? budget solution: 5 (or 7) x Monoprice 15" passive PA speakers -in for under 1k, + subs of your choice, still in way under budget.

check out Tekton designs: several theater sets from ~ 1/2 budget to over budget...

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Since it is a garage, how important are aesthetics? budget solution: 5 (or 7) x Monoprice 15" passive PA speakers -in for under 1k, + subs of your choice, still in way under budget.



check out Tekton designs: several theater sets from ~ 1/2 budget to over budget...
Aesthetics are a non factor. Would Tekton speakers be better than Klipsch?

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Aesthetics are a non factor. Would Tekton speakers be better than Klipsch?

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totally subjective. Just trying to point out some options for you to consider. but also very efficient. They seem to be well regarded. and you will have more options on finishing. Also more of a boutique shop.

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Since it is a garage, how important are aesthetics? budget solution: 5 (or 7) x Monoprice 15" passive PA speakers -in for under 1k, + subs of your choice, still in way under budget.

check out Tekton designs: several theater sets from ~ 1/2 budget to over budget...
I second the recommendation for inexpensive PA Speakers if there is no plan to treat the room as PA speakers are actually designed for that type of use. If there is a plan to treat the room, I would suggest putting money toward that first, and then ask again for a recommendation based on remaining budget. Also keep in mind that with an untreated Garage the SPL level outside the Garage may be very high and lead to complaints from the neighbors and could even result in a call the the Police by said neighbors...
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