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2.0 System VS 2.1 sound bar

I am currently running a basic $200 Samsung 2.1 sound bar in my family room. I think the sub (wireless) is 5.25” and the bar has 4X 2” speakers. I am not looking to go crazy as I have a full 5.1.2 custom system in my basement but I was thinking of an upgrade.

I have access to a 2004 HK AVR335 Reciever I was thinking of pairing with mid sized 5.25” woofer, bookshelf speakers (KHL, NHT , B&W, Klipsch, JBL, etc) to replace the 2.1 sound bar.

What are peoples thoughts? Would this be much of an upgrade? I guess I would getting better imaging with the 2.0 system but would I lose low end, even though my 2.1 sound bar has a crappy subwoofer?

And no I don’t want to add a sub to the possible 2.0 system, placement very limited and no way for a clean wire run. The look is as important as the sound in this situation.
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The Sonos Beam is the best solution if you don't want the messy wires.

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I am currently running a basic $200 Samsung 2.1 sound bar in my family room. I think the sub (wireless) is 5.25” and the bar has 4X 2” speakers. I am not looking to go crazy as I have a full 5.1.2 custom system in my basement but I was thinking of an upgrade.

I have access to a 2004 HK AVR335 Reciever I was thinking of pairing with mid sized 5.25” woofer, bookshelf speakers (KHL, NHT , B&W, Klipsch, JBL, etc) to replace the 2.1 sound bar.

What are peoples thoughts? Would this be much of an upgrade? I guess I would getting better imaging with the 2.0 system but would I lose low end, even though my 2.1 sound bar has a crappy subwoofer?

And no I don’t want to add a sub to the possible 2.0 system, placement very limited and no way for a clean wire run. The look is as important as the sound in this situation.
I just went threw this with my bedroom setup. Had a polk sound bar that now been replaced with with NHT superzero. I used a Klipsch powergate amp. I will say they need a sub though compared to the sound bar that has a 8” witeless sub. I am looking at wireless options but hooked up my 8” monoprice and it sounded great just to test it out.
After testing out the seperates compared to my sound bar i dont think ill ever go back at a sound bar. Sound bars have so small of speakers i think.
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Look at the Vanatoo T0 for an active 2.0 (or 2.1) system for around 350. They put out a prodigious amount of bass for the size of speaker, and it has a sub out (I believe it even has a selectable crossover), if you want to connect a sub at a later time. I compared them against my main rig using the same source and receiver, and they held their own, which is amazing at a fraction of the size and cost.


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I am currently running a basic $200 Samsung 2.1 sound bar in my family room. I think the sub (wireless) is 5.25” and the bar has 4X 2” speakers. I am not looking to go crazy as I have a full 5.1.2 custom system in my basement but I was thinking of an upgrade.

I have access to a 2004 HK AVR335 Reciever I was thinking of pairing with mid sized 5.25” woofer, bookshelf speakers (KHL, NHT , B&W, Klipsch, JBL, etc) to replace the 2.1 sound bar.

What are peoples thoughts? Would this be much of an upgrade? I guess I would getting better imaging with the 2.0 system but would I lose low end, even though my 2.1 sound bar has a crappy subwoofer?

And no I don’t want to add a sub to the possible 2.0 system, placement very limited and no way for a clean wire run. The look is as important as the sound in this situation.
Speakers over a soundbar, hands down. Lots of good speaker options so knowing your sonic preferences would help narrow down the list. The RSL Speedwoofer 10s does have a wireless option.
https://rslspeakers.com/products/rsl...-10s-wireless/
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I am currently running a basic $200 Samsung 2.1 sound bar in my family room. I think the sub (wireless) is 5.25” and the bar has 4X 2” speakers. I am not looking to go crazy as I have a full 5.1.2 custom system in my basement but I was thinking of an upgrade.

I have access to a 2004 HK AVR335 Reciever I was thinking of pairing with mid sized 5.25” woofer, bookshelf speakers (KHL, NHT , B&W, Klipsch, JBL, etc) to replace the 2.1 sound bar.

What are peoples thoughts? Would this be much of an upgrade? I guess I would getting better imaging with the 2.0 system but would I lose low end, even though my 2.1 sound bar has a crappy subwoofer?

And no I don’t want to add a sub to the possible 2.0 system, placement very limited and no way for a clean wire run. The look is as important as the sound in this situation.
Speakers over a soundbar, hands down. Lots of good speaker options so knowing your sonic preferences would help narrow down the list. The RSL Speedwoofer 10s does have a wireless option.
https://rslspeakers.com/products/rsl...-10s-wireless/
I was not looking to put a ton of money into them. I already have a pair of JBL Control Ones but they only have a 4” Tweeter so they are lacking on the low end. I want 5.25 front ported, or maybe 6.5” but the size of the speaker might get too big.

Local Craig’s list has a nice pair of Boston CR67s for $85 that look tempting.

Currently running PSB in my main home theater and a big pair of Boston’s in the garage.
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Not sure if there's better sound out there for the price, but it would be really hard to do with any profit left.

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I was not looking to put a ton of money into them. I already have a pair of JBL Control Ones but they only have a 4” Tweeter so they are lacking on the low end. I want 5.25 front ported, or maybe 6.5” but the size of the speaker might get too big.

Local Craig’s list has a nice pair of Boston CR67s for $85 that look tempting.

Currently running PSB in my main home theater and a big pair of Boston’s in the garage.
I'm sure you meant 4" woofer as the tweeter is for higher frequencies, not bass.

maybe look at NHT SuperOne 2.1 as they have a 6.5" woofer in a sealed cabinet. Less than 12" high so might meet your requirements.

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I was not looking to put a ton of money into them. I already have a pair of JBL Control Ones but they only have a 4” Tweeter so they are lacking on the low end. I want 5.25 front ported, or maybe 6.5” but the size of the speaker might get too big.

Local Craig’s list has a nice pair of Boston CR67s for $85 that look tempting.

Currently running PSB in my main home theater and a big pair of Boston’s in the garage.
I'm sure you meant 4" woofer as the tweeter is for higher frequencies, not bass.

maybe look at NHT SuperOne 2.1 as they have a 6.5" woofer in a sealed cabinet. Less than 12" high so might meet your requirements.
correct, 4” woofer and 3/4” tweeter.

With NHT being sealed would that limit bass response? But I do love some NHT come in white, the bookshelf they will be in is white.
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If you already have a pair of speakers and an avr, you could just look for a used 8-10” emotiv bassx, or rsl speedwoofer sub to pair with them. Both of those brands have a pretty good reputation for solid performance for their size, and buying used would reduce the cost as well.


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correct, 4” woofer and 3/4” tweeter.

With NHT being sealed would that limit bass response? But I do love some NHT come in white, the bookshelf they will be in is white.
I have a pair in my bedroom, which is pretty big at 2500 cubic feet or so. They have good response to around 60hz in my room and are usable for music without a sub. I use them with a sub though. In a smaller or small room and or closer to a wall you could easily get by without a sub.

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NO ONE, and I mean no one WANTS a Sound Bar. You may settle for one, circumstance might force you into one, but no one actually wants one.

A sound bar with TINY speakers, and a small subwoofer are not going to move more air or go deeper than common pair of good Bookshelf Speakers. Why settle for something that is trying to simulate Bookshelf Speakers when you can actually have Bookshelf Speakers, ...assuming circumstances don't forbid it.

I'm not sure I actually saw you mention a BUDGET? Can we clear that up now?

While there are many choices, for a compact systems with decent sound at a reasonable price -

Edifier R2000DB, 2xAux, 1xOptical, Bluetooth, Remote Control, 5", 55hz - US$250/pr -

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R2000...dp/B016PAWJYS/

https://www.edifier.com/us/en/speake...th-optical-rca

If you want to take it to the next Level, the the Edifier S2000Pro -

Edifier S2000Pro, Aux, Optical, Coaxial, Bluetooth, Remote, 5.25", 48hz - $399/pr -


https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S2000...dp/B0725GZQFZ/

https://www.edifier.com/us/en/speake...tudio-monitors

DEMO - S2000Pro -



He might have these videos disabled for embedded viewing, so here is the abbreviated link -

youtube.com/watch?v=jB1MXGj91Hs

If you want to take it to the Top -

Edifier S3000Pro, Aux, Optical, Coaxial, USB-PD, Bluetooth, Remote, 6.5", 38hz - $799/pr -

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S3000...dp/B07L6RXHQ6/

https://www.edifier.com/us/en/speakers/s3000pro

S3000Pro Demo -


youtube.com/watch?v=XoC9sj2YBxc

Here is another choice for a very compact system -

Yamaha WXC-50 Network Streamer/Pre-Amp, Optical, Aux, Network, Sub-Out, Bluetooth - $350/ea -


https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022WXC...=Yamaha_WXC-50

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audi...-50/index.html

To this you can add the Active Speakers of your choice - JBL, Mackie, KRK, Adam, etc.... These are going to run from about $300/pr up to about $500/pr depending on the size of speaker you want -

JBL 305 MKII (5.25") - $149 EACH -

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...studio-monitor

JBL 306 MKII (6.5") - $119 EACH ( on sale, limited time) -

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...studio-monitor

Complete system with Network Streaming, roughly $650.

Of course, you will likely need Stands for the Speakers, but that ranges from $50/pr to $150/pr depending on how nice you want them to look -

https://www.amazon.com/ZENY-Monitor-...dp/B0154G1AQM/

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S2000...dp/B07814L8GQ/

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S3000...dp/B07LCW2YX9/

And of course, dozens of others to choose from.


Get a Sound Bar if you must ...but only ...if you MUST.

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^ if the op doesn't need an "all in one" option with Bluetooth, Z Reviews preferred the sound from the Swans M300. Costs less, too.

He also preferred the sound of the Mackie MR524/624 over the JBL 305, as do I.

Just for some good, active options.

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^ if the op doesn't need an "all in one" option with Bluetooth, Z Reviews preferred the sound from the Swans M300. Costs less, too.

He also preferred the sound of the Mackie MR524/624 over the JBL 305, as do I.

Just for some good, active options.
Those are all valid options, but my posts are already epic length, so I simply illustrate the point and let the user work out the details. I too like the Mackies, though I don't remember hearing the JBL. The Swan Speakers are also very good, but I can't list every speakers.



https://www.amazon.com/Swans-Speaker...dp/B0010LH2VS/

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...studio-monitor

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Mackie/...dio-Monitor.gc



There are lots of choice, some more readily available than others.

Given that I can find the Mackie M624, I have to wonder if they are about to refresh the M-Series.

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I used the wrong link above, here is the Link to the SWAN M300 Speakers -



Adding a Demo of the SWAN M300 just for reference -



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given that i can find the mackie m624, i have to wonder if they are about to refresh the m-series.
https://smile.amazon.com/Mackie-MR62...dp/B073WMVJBR/

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The NHT SuperOnes, already mentioned, would be good. Also for less $$, the just released Micca RB42 might fit your needs. They appear to be sold out for several more weeks, however. There are at least three recent reviews on youtube of them. Good looking little guys as well.
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The NHT SuperOnes, already mentioned, would be good. Also for less $$, the just released Micca RB42 might fit your needs. They appear to be sold out for several more weeks, however. There are at least three recent reviews on youtube of them. Good looking little guys as well.
If you want the Micca RB42, the Q Acoustics 3020i are basically the same form factor, only a bit "more".

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NO ONE, and I mean no one WANTS a Sound Bar. You may settle for one, circumstance might force you into one, but no one actually wants one.

A sound bar with TINY speakers, and a small subwoofer are not going to move more air or go deeper than common pair of good Bookshelf Speakers. Why settle for something that is trying to simulate Bookshelf Speakers when you can actually have Bookshelf Speakers, ...assuming circumstances don't forbid it.

I'm not sure I actually saw you mention a BUDGET? Can we clear that up now?

While there are many choices, for a compact systems with decent sound at a reasonable price -

Edifier R2000DB, 2xAux, 1xOptical, Bluetooth, Remote Control, 5", 55hz - US$250/pr -

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R2000...dp/B016PAWJYS/

https://www.edifier.com/us/en/speake...th-optical-rca

If you want to take it to the next Level, the the Edifier S2000Pro -

Edifier S2000Pro, Aux, Optical, Coaxial, Bluetooth, Remote, 5.25", 48hz - $399/pr -


https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S2000...dp/B0725GZQFZ/

https://www.edifier.com/us/en/speake...tudio-monitors

DEMO - S2000Pro -



If you want to take it to the Top -

Edifier S3000Pro, Aux, Optical, Coaxial, USB-PD, Bluetooth, Remote, 6.5", 38hz - $799/pr -

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S3000...dp/B07L6RXHQ6/

https://www.edifier.com/us/en/speakers/s3000pro

S3000Pro Demo -


Here is another choice for a very compact system -

Yamaha WXC-50 Network Streamer/Pre-Amp, Optical, Aux, Network, Sub-Out, Bluetooth - $350/ea -


https://www.crutchfield.com/p_022WXC...=Yamaha_WXC-50

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audi...-50/index.html

To this you can add the Active Speakers of your choice - JBL, Mackie, KRK, Adam, etc.... These are going to run from about $300/pr up to about $500/pr depending on the size of speaker you want -

JBL 305 MKII (5.25") - $149 EACH -

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...studio-monitor

JBL 306 MKII (6.5") - $119 EACH ( on sale, limited time) -

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...studio-monitor

Complete system with Network Streaming, roughly $650.

Of course, you will likely need Stands for the Speakers, but that ranges from $50/pr to $150/pr depending on how nice you want them to look -

https://www.amazon.com/ZENY-Monitor-...dp/B0154G1AQM/

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S2000...dp/B07814L8GQ/

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-S3000...dp/B07LCW2YX9/

And of course, dozens of others to choose from.


Get a Sound Bar if you must ...but only ...if you MUST.

In my opinion ...

Steve/bluewizard
I am looking to spend $200-$300 or so. I am putting them into a bookshelf, 10” deep. So need a speaker less than 10” deep and I would avoid something rear ported.

Someone recommended Wharfedale - Diamond 10.2 for about $225 for the pair.

My goal is not HUGE home theater sound. As I said I have a very solid 5.1.2 system in the basement. But I want to improve over my basic 2.1 Samsung sound bar. Clear dialogue and solid imaging are two of my main goals. Everything else would be a bonus.

I want to avoid powered monitors as running cables from L to R and to the source could be tough. I plane to use a Harmon Kaesong AVR 335 to power them. I will use optical out from my TV to the reciever.

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I don't know of any speaker that will sound good in a bookshelf.

Cup your hands over your mouth, or stand at the mouth of a cave and try talking to someone.

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I don't know of any speaker that will sound good in a bookshelf.

Cup your hands over your mouth, or stand at the mouth of a cave and try talking to someone.
As long as they are not rear ported and the woofers / tweeters are set at the edge of the bookshelf there should be minimal loss.

Otherwise if you really think a bookshelf would kill it then I could go Sonos Beam... but even on a shelf I think separate speakers would sound better.
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I searched Amazon-USA, SweetWater, ZZound, Guitar Center, nothing came up at any of those locations. But they all had 524 and 824, but no 624 Mackie. Odd but that's what I found.

Thanks for the link.

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I am looking to spend $200-$300 or so. I am putting them into a bookshelf, 10” deep. So need a speaker less than 10” deep and I would avoid something rear ported.

Someone recommended Wharfedale - Diamond 10.2 for about $225 for the pair.
So Passive Speakers. The Diamond 10.2 are good speakers, 6.5" and reasonably deep. Monitor Audio Bronze 1 or 2 also worth checking out. With that budget, you would do best with discontinued but still available speakers, for example, next up for the Diamond 10 is the Diamond 100 which were short lived, soon replaced by the Diamond 200, and now by the Diamond 11. All that said, the Diamond 10.2 are still good speakers, and at pretty nice discounts.

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.... I want to improve over my basic 2.1 Samsung sound bar. Clear dialogue and solid imaging are two of my main goals. Everything else would be a bonus.
So, $200/pr to $300/pr? There is only so much you can do with that kind of money. You expectations have to be consistent with your budget.

The Klipsch RP150 (5.25) and RP160 (6.5") (not current models but still available) can be found at very nice discounts and very close to your budget.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-15...dp/B00RXHEH8Y/

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-16...dp/B00RNZ6COS/

These are exceptionally clear and present speakers for a modest price, and while not right on, very close to your budget.

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I want to avoid powered monitors as running cables from L to R and to the source could be tough. I plan to use a Harmon Kaesong AVR 335 to power them. I will use optical out from my TV to the receiver.
If you have an AV Receiver, why use Optical form the TV? Why not use HDMI and just tell the AVR that you have a 2.1 system, and let it adjust accordingly. Though nothing wrong with using the Optical between TV and Amp. But if you have HDMI, that is probably the best option.

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I am looking to spend $200-$300 or so. I am putting them into a bookshelf, 10” deep. So need a speaker less than 10” deep and I would avoid something rear ported.

Someone recommended Wharfedale - Diamond 10.2 for about $225 for the pair.
So Passive Speakers. The Diamond 10.2 are good speakers, 6.5" and reasonably deep. Monitor Audio Bronze 1 or 2 also worth checking out. With that budget, you would do best with discontinued but still available speakers, for example, next up for the Diamond 10 is the Diamond 100 which were short lived, soon replaced by the Diamond 200, and now by the Diamond 11. All that said, the Diamond 10.2 are still good speakers, and at pretty nice discounts.

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.... I want to improve over my basic 2.1 Samsung sound bar. Clear dialogue and solid imaging are two of my main goals. Everything else would be a bonus.
So, $200/pr to $300/pr? There is only so much you can do with that kind of money. You expectations have to be consistent with your budget.

The Klipsch RP150 (5.25) and RP160 (6.5") (not current models but still available) can be found at very nice discounts and very close to your budget.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-15...dp/B00RXHEH8Y/

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-16...dp/B00RNZ6COS/

These are exceptionally clear and present speakers for a modest price, and while not right on, very close to your budget.

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I want to avoid powered monitors as running cables from L to R and to the source could be tough. I plan to use a Harmon Kaesong AVR 335 to power them. I will use optical out from my TV to the receiver.
If you have an AV Receiver, why use Optical form the TV? Why not use HDMI and just tell the AVR that you have a 2.1 system, and let it adjust accordingly. Though nothing wrong with using the Optical between TV and Amp. But if you have HDMI, that is probably the best option.

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The reciever I am using is an HK AVR335, 2004 no HDMI, but great amps. I could spend up to $400. But again my main question is a sound bar, Sonos Beam, vs amp and bookshelf speakers less than $400. I am good with used or clearance.

It sounds like bookshelves seem the way to go.
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I am looking to spend $200-$300 or so. I am putting them into a bookshelf, 10” deep. So need a speaker less than 10” deep and I would avoid something rear ported.

Someone recommended Wharfedale - Diamond 10.2 for about $225 for the pair.
So Passive Speakers. The Diamond 10.2 are good speakers, 6.5" and reasonably deep. Monitor Audio Bronze 1 or 2 also worth checking out. With that budget, you would do best with discontinued but still available speakers, for example, next up for the Diamond 10 is the Diamond 100 which were short lived, soon replaced by the Diamond 200, and now by the Diamond 11. All that said, the Diamond 10.2 are still good speakers, and at pretty nice discounts.

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.... I want to improve over my basic 2.1 Samsung sound bar. Clear dialogue and solid imaging are two of my main goals. Everything else would be a bonus.
So, $200/pr to $300/pr? There is only so much you can do with that kind of money. You expectations have to be consistent with your budget.

The Klipsch RP150 (5.25) and RP160 (6.5") (not current models but still available) can be found at very nice discounts and very close to your budget.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-15...dp/B00RXHEH8Y/

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-16...dp/B00RNZ6COS/

These are exceptionally clear and present speakers for a modest price, and while not right on, very close to your budget.

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I want to avoid powered monitors as running cables from L to R and to the source could be tough. I plan to use a Harmon Kaesong AVR 335 to power them. I will use optical out from my TV to the receiver.
If you have an AV Receiver, why use Optical form the TV? Why not use HDMI and just tell the AVR that you have a 2.1 system, and let it adjust accordingly. Though nothing wrong with using the Optical between TV and Amp. But if you have HDMI, that is probably the best option.

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I am using a HK AVR335 amp, 2004 no HDMI, but great clean power. I could go up to $400 budget wise and I am never afraid of used, clearance, B-stock etc.

But what I am gathering is that $200-$400 worth of bookshelf speakers and my amp, 2.0 system, will sound better than a $400 sound bar like the Sonos Beam or Klipsch 2.1 sound bar. Or am I getting the wrong impression?
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But what I am gathering is that $200-$400 worth of bookshelf speakers and my amp, 2.0 system, will sound better than a $400 sound bar like the Sonos Beam or Klipsch 2.1 sound bar. Or am I getting the wrong impression?
I would say that is an accurate assessment. There are $400 bookshelf speakers that will slay any sound bar.

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But what I am gathering is that $200-$400 worth of bookshelf speakers and my amp, 2.0 system, will sound better than a $400 sound bar like the Sonos Beam or Klipsch 2.1 sound bar. Or am I getting the wrong impression?
Of course it is a matter of opinion, but I repeat what I said previously -

NO ONE, and I mean no one WANTS a Sound Bar. You may settle for one, circumstance might force you into one, but no one actually wants one.

A sound bar with TINY speakers, and a small subwoofer are not going to move more air or go deeper than common pair of good Bookshelf Speakers.

Again, just an opinion.

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I am using a HK AVR335 amp, 2004 no HDMI, but great clean power. I could go up to $400 budget wise and I am never afraid of used, clearance, B-stock etc. ...
If they will fit your space, check out those Klipsch RP-Series. Nice discounts on very clear and present speakers. There are many YouTube Videos on the RP150 / RP160 / RP500 / RP600. Stereophile Magazine recently reviewed the Klipsch RP600 (6.5") and there conclusion was - Super-Highly Recommended.

Z Reviews on YouTube as reviewed the older RP-150 (5.25") and I believe the Newer RP-600.





Also nice to seem them in a normal environment so you get a better idea of their size. And if course, there are many other videos.

Here is the standard price on the current models, which is very close to the Older models -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RP5...00M-Ebony.html

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RP6...00M-Ebony.html

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I am using a HK AVR335 amp, 2004 no HDMI, but great clean power. I could go up to $400 budget wise and I am never afraid of used, clearance, B-stock etc. ...
If they will fit your space, check out those Klipsch RP-Series. Nice discounts on very clear and present speakers. There are many YouTube Videos on the RP150 / RP160 / RP500 / RP600. Stereophile Magazine recently reviewed the Klipsch RP600 (6.5") and there conclusion was - Super-Highly Recommended.

Z Reviews on YouTube as reviewed the older RP-150 (5.25") and I believe the Newer RP-600.





Also nice to seem them in a normal environment so you get a better idea of their size. And if course, there are many other videos.

Here is the standard price on the current models, which is very close to the Older models -

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RP5...00M-Ebony.html

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_714RP6...00M-Ebony.html

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I will have to check them out, had a solid Klipsch 5.1 system back in the day, KSF 10.5s I think. Had great imaging and played loud.
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