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Cheap speakers (around 150 €\$) for minimal needs

Good morning everyone.
I think that my cheap requirements will make your ears bleed, but for now this is what I need.
I've just bought an Epson 3700 Projector for my photographic studio (attached image with the measures).
I wanted to know what pair of cheap speakers buy and, where to put them.
I thought I could buy a pair of 2.0 Edifier 1700 Bluetooth, so I can pair them with the Android TV dongle connected to the projector.
But I don't know where to put them. I wanted to show my clients my videos and photos with audio, but in the evening I wanted to see some movies and tv series.
Could you please help me? Thanks
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Good morning everyone.
I think that my cheap requirements will make your ears bleed, but for now this is what I need.
I've just bought an Epson 3700 Projector for my photographic studio (attached image with the measures).
I wanted to know what pair of cheap speakers buy and, where to put them.
I thought I could buy a pair of 2.0 Edifier 1700 Bluetooth, so I can pair them with the Android TV dongle connected to the projector.
But I don't know where to put them. I wanted to show my clients my videos and photos with audio, but in the evening I wanted to see some movies and tv series.
Could you please help me? Thanks
Best place for them would be beside the projector. Note: Those speakers are designed for desktop use and likely won't sound that great. You're better off going with some Dayton speakers and T-amp.
https://www.amazon.ca/Dayton-Audio-B...s%2C137&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.ca/DROK-Channel-A...%2C144&sr=8-14
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I just put in Edifier R1280DB in my Brother-in-law's house. They are quite impressive on bass and the volume level they will produce. Sound-wise, I really felt like the tweeter is lacking, but the 1700 has a 19mm tweeter instead of the 13mm in the 1280, so it might be quite a bit better. Turning the treble up all the way (something I hate, but needed on the 1280) and letting them break in for a while and they sound pretty damn good.

The downside on the Edifier (at least the 1280) is that you need that tiny chicklet remote to change inputs. There are no physical buttons to change sources, so if you lose the remote, then I don't see any way to switch inputs. It also only allows one bluetooth connection at a time, so if somebody is connected, then you don't even see the bluetooth device as connectable on other devices. You have to hit the bluetooth button on the remote and hold it, which will make it discoverable, though there is no change on the bluetooth light (it stays blue the whole time) to show you that it is available for connection. It is very poorly designed from a usability standpoint, but if you are using line in or only bluetooth from 1 device, you may not care.

The other impediment with Edifier is that there is no way to connect a subwoofer, so if you want to add one later, you cannot.

I also have the Dayton Air speakers linked above and I think they are in some ways a better speaker. If your plan is to run without a sub, I think the Edifiers might put out more bass than the Daytons, but if you plan (now or later) to add a sub, the Daytons might be a better choice. I agree with using a T-tamp. The Lepei 2020ti is a pretty ugly amp, but it really sounds great and is only $28. Most of the T-amps don't deliver their claimed wattage with the included power supply (3 amp 12 volt supply can only produce 36 watts in total). If you need more volume/power, you can add a higher amperage power supply and the amp will rock -> https://www.parts-express.com/lepai-...SABEgKeT_D_BwE
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At the top of the Photo there are two Rectangles one inside the other, can you explain what that is?

Next, WHERE ARE YOU? So, we can provide links that would be relevant to your location. Given that you partly quoted in € Euros, we assume somewhere in Europe. For Europe, I usually use Germany as the default.

Can you give a better more detailed explanation of How and Why the system will be used? You mentioned something about clients? How does that come into play? The Photo implies this is some type of Studio?

For us to truly help we need to understand the circumstance and the situation as well as you do, then we can reply in context.

What you need will depend on what you have. You have a Epson Projector, but what model? What Connections does it have? What is the source of your content - Computer, BlueRay, DVD, Network Streaming, Other? Knowing all the components in the system will help us determine what connects to what and how.

If this is business related and applies to work you have done for a client, likely want to present it in the best possible light. Which implies a better than average sound system if you are trying to sell something.

The area set aside for listening and viewing is about 2m (6.6ft) x 4.2m (13.8ft), which appears to be to one side of a larger room.

Even in that modest space, you don't want speakers that are too tiny. My instinct is to always go with 130mm (5.25 inch) woofers or bigger.

If you are considering Edifier, though above the stated budget, consider the Edifier R2000DB, which have two RCA analog input pairs, and Optical input with DAC plus Bluetooth capability. Also, the Edifier R2000DB have a Remote Control which is very handy. Though ... above your budget, but ver good speakers. There are many YouTube videos covering these speakers -

https://www.amazon.de/Edifier-R2000D...dp/B06WW8N6DY/

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speake...th-optical-rca

Here is a similarly priced alternative that has smaller Front Speakers and a Subwoofer -

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speake...kers-subwoofer

https://www.amazon.de/Edifier-S350DB...dp/B076HWZHW8/

Edifier does make quite a range of speakers which can be found here -

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speakers

Virtually all are available from AMAZON.

If the price absolutely has to come down, then the Edifier R1280DB comes pretty close -

https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-Studio...dp/B01NCTNZRC/

https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-Studio...dp/B00GBN50SC/

Very flexible with a lot of connection options - 2xAux/Line, Optical, and Coaxial plus Bluetooth and Remote Control.

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speake...shelf-speakers

But in terms of sound quality and best value, the more expensive R2000DB are the best choice.

Again, what you connect to where will depend on what connections you have available and where.

Most modern TVs have an Optical Digital Audio Out. That is most commonly how people get TV/Movie Sound to a Audio System of some type.

Most modern computers have HDMI (some with audio some not), USB, Analog, and Optical Audio Out capabilities.

Most BluRay/DVD have HDMI and Optical/Coaxial Out with a few that have Analog Out.

I'm curious why you bought a Projector rather than say a 55" TV? TVs are relatively cheap now with 42", 50", and 55" being very attractively priced and 60"/65" coming down substantially. No doubt a Projector will throw a pretty large image, but how large to your really need?

So, tell us the specific Model of the Projector so we can look it up and see the Connection Options?

Tell us what the source of content is?


That should get us started.

For €150/pr for active speakers or for an Amp and Speakers, while there are options, the options are pretty limited. Most good options I can think of start closer to €250.

Just a few thoughts.

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It looks like the Edifier 1700 doesn't have digital input. If your sound source has a digital output, you might gain some advantage by selecting an Edifier model that has an optical/coax digital input. If you are planning to drive it with the analog audio out of your projector, then it doesn't matter which Edifier and that is also fine as input to a T-amp.
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Good morning everyone.
I think that my cheap requirements will make your ears bleed, but for now this is what I need.
I've just bought an Epson 3700 Projector for my photographic studio (attached image with the measures).
I wanted to know what pair of cheap speakers buy and, where to put them.
I thought I could buy a pair of 2.0 Edifier 1700 Bluetooth, so I can pair them with the Android TV dongle connected to the projector.
But I don't know where to put them. I wanted to show my clients my videos and photos with audio, but in the evening I wanted to see some movies and tv series.
Could you please help me? Thanks
Best place for them would be beside the projector. Note: Those speakers are designed for desktop use and likely won't sound that great. You're better off going with some Dayton speakers and T-amp.
https://www.amazon.ca/Dayton-Audio-B...s%2C137&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.ca/DROK-Channel-A...%2C144&sr=8-14
Thanks for the answer. Sadly here in Italy I can't find the speakers you suggested me. Is there another good model?
When you say beside, according to the position of the sofa, where should I position them? Because the projector will be placed on a shelf, right above the sofa.
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Thanks for the answer. Sadly here in Italy I can't find the speakers you suggested me. Is there another good model?
When you say beside, according to the position of the sofa, where should I position them? Because the projector will be placed on a shelf, right above the sofa.
Normally you would place the speakers on each side of where the image is projected, rather than close to the projector itself. For movies, you really want the sound to come from a the same plane as the image. If you are playing a soundtrack to a slideshow, then that might be less important, but I still think having speakers on the image plane rather than so close to the couch would sound better.

If you are doing some highly separated audio, then you might get some very cool effects having the speakers so close to the sofa, but I think it wouldn't be as natural a sound for most typical scenarios.
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Thanks for the answer. Sadly here in Italy I can't find the speakers you suggested me. Is there another good model?
When you say beside, according to the position of the sofa, where should I position them? Because the projector will be placed on a shelf, right above the sofa.
Ideally you want the speakers in front you. Beside the projector screen at about ear level would be best.

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At the top of the Photo there are two Rectangles one inside the other, can you explain what that is?

Next, WHERE ARE YOU? So, we can provide links that would be relevant to your location. Given that you partly quoted in € Euros, we assume somewhere in Europe. For Europe, I usually use Germany as the default.

Can you give a better more detailed explanation of How and Why the system will be used? You mentioned something about clients? How does that come into play? The Photo implies this is some type of Studio?

For us to truly help we need to understand the circumstance and the situation as well as you do, then we can reply in context.

What you need will depend on what you have. You have a Epson Projector, but what model? What Connections does it have? What is the source of your content - Computer, BlueRay, DVD, Network Streaming, Other? Knowing all the components in the system will help us determine what connects to what and how.

If this is business related and applies to work you have done for a client, likely want to present it in the best possible light. Which implies a better than average sound system if you are trying to sell something.

The area set aside for listening and viewing is about 2m (6.6ft) x 4.2m (13.8ft), which appears to be to one side of a larger room.

Even in that modest space, you don't want speakers that are too tiny. My instinct is to always go with 130mm (5.25 inch) woofers or bigger.

If you are considering Edifier, though above the stated budget, consider the Edifier R2000DB, which have two RCA analog input pairs, and Optical input with DAC plus Bluetooth capability. Also, the Edifier R2000DB have a Remote Control which is very handy. Though ... above your budget, but ver good speakers. There are many YouTube videos covering these speakers -

https://www.amazon.de/Edifier-R2000D...dp/B06WW8N6DY/

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speake...th-optical-rca

Here is a similarly priced alternative that has smaller Front Speakers and a Subwoofer -

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speake...kers-subwoofer

https://www.amazon.de/Edifier-S350DB...dp/B076HWZHW8/

Edifier does make quite a range of speakers which can be found here -

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speakers

Virtually all are available from AMAZON.

If the price absolutely has to come down, then the Edifier R1280DB comes pretty close -

https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-Studio...dp/B01NCTNZRC/

https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-Studio...dp/B00GBN50SC/

Very flexible with a lot of connection options - 2xAux/Line, Optical, and Coaxial plus Bluetooth and Remote Control.

https://www.edifier.com/gb/en/speake...shelf-speakers

But in terms of sound quality and best value, the more expensive R2000DB are the best choice.

Again, what you connect to where will depend on what connections you have available and where.

Most modern TVs have an Optical Digital Audio Out. That is most commonly how people get TV/Movie Sound to a Audio System of some type.

Most modern computers have HDMI (some with audio some not), USB, Analog, and Optical Audio Out capabilities.

Most BluRay/DVD have HDMI and Optical/Coaxial Out with a few that have Analog Out.

I'm curious why you bought a Projector rather than say a 55" TV? TVs are relatively cheap now with 42", 50", and 55" being very attractively priced and 60"/65" coming down substantially. No doubt a Projector will throw a pretty large image, but how large to your really need?

So, tell us the specific Model of the Projector so we can look it up and see the Connection Options?

Tell us what the source of content is?


That should get us started.

For €150/pr for active speakers or for an Amp and Speakers, while there are options, the options are pretty limited. Most good options I can think of start closer to €250.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bluewizard
As I said, the model will be an Epson 3700 (TW6700). And yes, it will be placed in my photographic studio. As you can see in the picture attached, me (or my clients) will be seated in the sofa at the bottom of the arrow. The projector will be placed above the sofa.
During the day, the projector will loop my videos and photos with an audio background, while during the evening I wanted to see movies and TV series.
As you can clearly see in the picture, the screen is 2 meters large.
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As I said, the model will be an Epson 3700 (TW6700). And yes, it will be placed in my photographic studio. As you can see in the picture attached, me (or my clients) will be seated in the sofa at the bottom of the arrow. The projector will be placed above the sofa.
During the day, the projector will loop my videos and photos with an audio background, while during the evening I wanted to see movies and TV series.
As you can clearly see in the picture, the screen is 2 meters large.
There is no Photo, there is a floorplan, if that's what you mean.

Is this the studio where the photos are taken? Or is this more of a front office lounge area?

What is the Source? Are you streaming the video using a computer, and is it on the computer or are you accessing it over the Network? Have you burn the presentation to DVD or USB Thumb Drive? These details matter. We can't tell how to connect until we know what is connecting to what.

So, the understanding is that these are promotional photos and videos to entice potential client by showing them your previous work. And the Video aspect, is that typical wedding videos, or do you do other commercial video work?

Again, we need to now what is connecting to what in order to understand how to connect them.

If you have multiple computers in the office, then it would be best to have a computer dedicated to this Video Display. If the computer is one that is being used for video and photo editing, the cable run from that computer to the Projector and Screen can be quite long. And the video will have to be on a different screen than the Work that is being done.

From what I'm finding the Epson 3700 has 2xHDMI in, USB, VGA, and Analog Audio Out. You would have to run VGA or HDMI from the Computer (assuming it is a computer) to the Projector, then run an Analog Cable from the Audio Out to the Active Speakers. Analog Signals like this in theory, can run as far as 100ft, though I don't think I would go that far.

https://www.projectorcentral.com/epson-3700-review.htm

https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/...5612400_bd.jpg

Best guess you would need to run the RCA/3.5mm Cable about 30ft (best guess, maybe as long as 35ft), assuming you use good cables, that's not going to be a problem.

Can you tell me about the ceilings in the space? Are they suspended ceiling with individual tiles? If so, it is very easy to run the cable above the ceiling and drop it down on the far side.

The same can be done if there is accessible Cellar/Basement. Drill a small hole in the floor, run the audio cable through, then across the room under the floor, and back up through a hole on the other side.

The same could be done in the Attic, assuming that is a possible option.

As an example, here is a 50ft Headphone Extension cable, run this from the Projector to the speakers, then at the far end, adapt the Female Stereo 3.5mm to 2xRCA to plug into the speaker.

https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Gea...dp/B00WAOPVOO/

Here is a 35ft version -

https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Gea...dp/B00UYCICSQ/

Here is a 15ft 3.5mm to RCA cable from the same source -

https://www.amazon.com/GearIT-Premiu...dp/B00V4429TQ/

Amazon will have similar cables from multiple sources.

Steve/bluewizard

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I would look at monoprice... see if you can get these: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=35124 and a lepei amp / or similar small class D amp.

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It looks like the Epson 3700 does not have optical out, so you could feed either the Edifiers you mentioned or a Lepei t-amp with a headphone to RCA cable from the projector.

I think the Edifier 1700's would sound very good and be a simple solution. Depending on your videos, a subwoofer can add a lot of drama to clients (and your video watching). If you think you might add a sub, pick an Edifier model with a preamp/sub output or go with a t-amp and passive speakers.

I know you didn't mention a sub, but when I see video presentations in business settings, the sub adds a lot of drama and intensity to the presentation. It doesn't need to be a large sub, just something small to fill out the lower bass the 4" ish woofers in the speakers you end up with can't put out.
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There is no Photo, there is a floorplan, if that's what you mean.

Is this the studio where the photos are taken? Or is this more of a front office lounge area?

What is the Source? Are you streaming the video using a computer, and is it on the computer or are you accessing it over the Network? Have you burn the presentation to DVD or USB Thumb Drive? These details matter. We can't tell how to connect until we know what is connecting to what.

So, the understanding is that these are promotional photos and videos to entice potential client by showing them your previous work. And the Video aspect, is that typical wedding videos, or do you do other commercial video work?

Again, we need to now what is connecting to what in order to understand how to connect them.

If you have multiple computers in the office, then it would be best to have a computer dedicated to this Video Display. If the computer is one that is being used for video and photo editing, the cable run from that computer to the Projector and Screen can be quite long. And the video will have to be on a different screen than the Work that is being done.

From what I'm finding the Epson 3700 has 2xHDMI in, USB, VGA, and Analog Audio Out. You would have to run VGA or HDMI from the Computer (assuming it is a computer) to the Projector, then run an Analog Cable from the Audio Out to the Active Speakers. Analog Signals like this in theory, can run as far as 100ft, though I don't think I would go that far.

https://www.projectorcentral.com/epson-3700-review.htm

https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/...5612400_bd.jpg

Best guess you would need to run the RCA/3.5mm Cable about 30ft (best guess, maybe as long as 35ft), assuming you use good cables, that's not going to be a problem.

Can you tell me about the ceilings in the space? Are they suspended ceiling with individual tiles? If so, it is very easy to run the cable above the ceiling and drop it down on the far side.

The same can be done if there is accessible Cellar/Basement. Drill a small hole in the floor, run the audio cable through, then across the room under the floor, and back up through a hole on the other side.

The same could be done in the Attic, assuming that is a possible option.

As an example, here is a 50ft Headphone Extension cable, run this from the Projector to the speakers, then at the far end, adapt the Female Stereo 3.5mm to 2xRCA to plug into the speaker.

https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Gea...dp/B00WAOPVOO/

Here is a 35ft version -

https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Gea...dp/B00UYCICSQ/

Here is a 15ft 3.5mm to RCA cable from the same source -

https://www.amazon.com/GearIT-Premiu...dp/B00V4429TQ/

Amazon will have similar cables from multiple sources.

Steve/bluewizard
Thanks for the esaustive post and answers. Sorry for yesterday, but I was with my phone, and couldn't answer everybody's questions.
A user PJP said, the Epson 3700 only has a 3.5 mm audio out, no optical, for this I mentioned the Edifier 1700 BT (currently in my desktop I have the 1600, very satisfied).
There is one big problem. These 1700 doesn't have a predisposition for a floor or wall mount, so I don't know how to put them high enough to reach me and my clients ears. So if you could suggest me another pair of bluetooth/corded speakers, or how can I the 1700s it would be great.
Maybe I could buy a more tall speaker (I don't know how they are called. Bookshelf maybe?) and place them at the sides of the backdrop? Like these...60W things?



Now for the questions:
What is the Source? I'll try to connect a Steam Link to the projector, that will clone via wireless my desktop from the pc, or maybe an Android TV box like the Nvidia Shield or the Xiaomi Mi Box or something like that.

The use of the projector, during the day when I receive my clients will be a loop of videos, according to the need of my clients. E.g. a couple that is going to get married come to my office, so the videos that loop will be my portfolio of wedding videos. Same for a client that need a commercial video or photos etc. They will sit on the sofa in the first picture, facing the photographic backdrop at around 13 feet from it.
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Thanks for the esaustive post and answers. Sorry for yesterday, but I was with my phone, and couldn't answer everybody's questions.

A user PJP said, the Epson 3700 only has a 3.5 mm audio out, no optical, for this I mentioned the Edifier 1700 BT (currently in my desktop I have the 1600, very satisfied).

There is one big problem. These 1700 doesn't have a predisposition for a floor or wall mount, so I don't know how to put them high enough to reach me and my clients ears. So if you could suggest me another pair of bluetooth/corded speakers, or how can I the 1700s it would be great.
OK, it is becoming more clear now.

I would speculate that these are your two low cost options.

Edifier R1700DB - €130/pr -


https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-R1700B...dp/B00MXY21LW/

Edifier R1280DB - €128/pr -

https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-Studio...dp/B01NCTNZRC/

https://www.amazon.de/Edifier-R1280D...dp/B01NCTGH9M/

The Edifier R1280DB has Analog (RCA), Optical, and Coaxial Inputs, which may not be important now, but it could be in the future.

Based on your current needs, the Edifier R1700BT has 2xAnalog Input (PC, Aux) and Bluetooth. That would server you for now.

Both should also have Bluetooth and a Remote Control.

I would be more inclined to recommend the Edifier R2000DB, but that is considerably over budget.

Since both of the have Bluetooth Capability, it would be possible to get a Bluetooth Transmitter for the Projector and pair that with the Speakers, and that would connect the Audio wirelessly. That might cost a bit more than Cable, which could be run along the ceiling beams, but Bluetooth would be a wireless connection.

There is a pretty wide range of Bluetooth Transmitters available, just pick one that best fits your budget.

https://www.amazon.de/s?k=bluetooth+...f=nb_sb_noss_2

Avantree is a pretty good company and have been making Bluetooth Products for quite a while now -

https://www.amazon.de/Avantree-Bluet...dp/B077MXFJGQ/

Though there are certainly many others.

STANDS
- while these are not the prettiest Stand, they are the cheapest and most heavy duty. These are Studio Monitor Stands, and they can be found in most Musician Supply stores -

https://www.amazon.de/lautsprecher-H...dp/B07KP6339G/

https://www.amazon.de/Novopro-sms80r...dp/B07C8Q84CT/

https://www.amazon.de/2-h%C3%B6henve...dp/B01GOK0BU8/

From the Links above, the Studio Monitor Stands are height adjustable, with a working range between 800mm and 1300mm for the first Display4Top Stand listed. They are all adjustable to varying degrees. Remember, most Musician Supply Stores will have similar Stands.

Of course there are nicer looking Speaker Stands, but they tend to cost more money, though not always.

https://www.amazon.de/minify-Exklusi...dp/B00IOP1T3U/

https://www.amazon.de/minify-Exklusi...dp/B00JLEMH2U/

https://www.amazon.de/minify-Exklusi...dp/B00IOP1V1A/

https://www.amazon.de/STILISTA-Lauts...dp/B01278KO5I/

https://www.amazon.de/STILISTA-Lauts...dp/B01278KKY8/

https://www.amazon.de/Pro-Ject-Lauts...dp/B00CFGYZEO/

Most Hi-Fi Speaker Stands tend to be between 600mm and 800mm tall (24" to 32"). Though some can go as high as 900mm (36"), though they are a bit less common. For home use, probably 600mm and 700mm are the most common.

Quote:
Maybe I could buy a more tall speaker (I don't know how they are called. Bookshelf maybe?) and place them at the sides of the backdrop? Like these...60W things?
This link isn't working, at least, not for me.


Quote:
Now for the questions:
What is the Source? I'll try to connect a Steam Link to the projector, that will clone via wireless my desktop from the pc, or maybe an Android TV box like the Nvidia Shield or the Xiaomi Mi Box or something like that.
Perhaps I don't understand this STEAM device, but I don't see how it solves your problem? Likely you could just put all your files on a USB Thumb Drive, and plug that into the projector. To make it easier, you could plug a USB extension cable into the Projector USB, and run it down the wall to a more easily accessible location.

I've never used the USB feature on most TV/Projectors, but from what I can tell it simply Auto-Plays the content in a loop. That does not give you much control, but you might be able to use the Projector Remote to skip through content to get to a specific piece. Again, I've not used this feature.

Alternately, probably the best would be a Laptop that has HDMI Out connected to the Projector. Again, run a cable down from the Projector to a convenient location for the Laptop. I think the projector has VGA video, but that cable is going to be harder to find and more bulk.

Quote:
The use of the projector, during the day when I receive my clients will be a loop of videos, according to the need of my clients. E.g. a couple that is going to get married come to my office, so the videos that loop will be my portfolio of wedding videos. Same for a client that need a commercial video or photos etc. They will sit on the sofa in the first picture, facing the photographic backdrop at around 13 feet from it.
Perhaps other can help you with the aspect of getting video from the Computer to the Projector. My actual experience in this is limited, but perhaps others have done this. I know there is a way to sync a Phone and your TV, if both have the necessary features. But that is the key - if both have the necessary features.

The solutions you suggested transmit the Video Signal wirelessly, that means the Projector would have to have or be adapted to receiver wireless signals. Again, I'm not going to be much help in this area.

It is going to be interesting to see what you come up with for this aspect - video from Computer to Projector.

Within reason, the other aspects seem to be solved, just a matter of making a decision. But the Video to Projector seems unclear, at least to me, at this point.

Let's see what others have to say on this aspect.

Steve/bluewizard

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Thanks for the esaustive post and answers. Sorry for yesterday, but I was with my phone, and couldn't answer everybody's questions.

A user PJP said, the Epson 3700 only has a 3.5 mm audio out, no optical, for this I mentioned the Edifier 1700 BT (currently in my desktop I have the 1600, very satisfied).

There is one big problem. These 1700 doesn't have a predisposition for a floor or wall mount, so I don't know how to put them high enough to reach me and my clients ears. So if you could suggest me another pair of bluetooth/corded speakers, or how can I the 1700s it would be great.
OK, it is becoming more clear now.

I would speculate that these are your two low cost options.

Edifier R1700DB - €130/pr -


https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-R1700B...dp/B00MXY21LW/

Edifier R1280DB - €128/pr -

https://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-Studio...dp/B01NCTNZRC/

https://www.amazon.de/Edifier-R1280D...dp/B01NCTGH9M/

The Edifier R1280DB has Analog (RCA), Optical, and Coaxial Inputs, which may not be important now, but it could be in the future.

Based on your current needs, the Edifier R1700BT has 2xAnalog Input (PC, Aux) and Bluetooth. That would server you for now.

Both should also have Bluetooth and a Remote Control.

I would be more inclined to recommend the Edifier R2000DB, but that is considerably over budget.

Since both of the have Bluetooth Capability, it would be possible to get a Bluetooth Transmitter for the Projector and pair that with the Speakers, and that would connect the Audio wirelessly. That might cost a bit more than Cable, which could be run along the ceiling beams, but Bluetooth would be a wireless connection.

There is a pretty wide range of Bluetooth Transmitters available, just pick one that best fits your budget.

https://www.amazon.de/s?k=bluetooth+...f=nb_sb_noss_2

Avantree is a pretty good company and have been making Bluetooth Products for quite a while now -

https://www.amazon.de/Avantree-Bluet...dp/B077MXFJGQ/

Though there are certainly many others.

STANDS
- while these are not the prettiest Stand, they are the cheapest and most heavy duty. These are Studio Monitor Stands, and they can be found in most Musician Supply stores -

https://www.amazon.de/lautsprecher-H...dp/B07KP6339G/

https://www.amazon.de/Novopro-sms80r...dp/B07C8Q84CT/

https://www.amazon.de/2-h%C3%B6henve...dp/B01GOK0BU8/

From the Links above, the Studio Monitor Stands are height adjustable, with a working range between 800mm and 1300mm for the first Display4Top Stand listed. They are all adjustable to varying degrees. Remember, most Musician Supply Stores will have similar Stands.

Of course there are nicer looking Speaker Stands, but they tend to cost more money, though not always.

https://www.amazon.de/minify-Exklusi...dp/B00IOP1T3U/

https://www.amazon.de/minify-Exklusi...dp/B00JLEMH2U/

https://www.amazon.de/minify-Exklusi...dp/B00IOP1V1A/

https://www.amazon.de/STILISTA-Lauts...dp/B01278KO5I/

https://www.amazon.de/STILISTA-Lauts...dp/B01278KKY8/

https://www.amazon.de/Pro-Ject-Lauts...dp/B00CFGYZEO/

Most Hi-Fi Speaker Stands tend to be between 600mm and 800mm tall (24" to 32"). Though some can go as high as 900mm (36"), though they are a bit less common. For home use, probably 600mm and 700mm are the most common.

Quote:
Maybe I could buy a more tall speaker (I don't know how they are called. Bookshelf maybe?) and place them at the sides of the backdrop? Like these...60W things?
This link isn't working, at least, not for me.


Quote:
Now for the questions:
What is the Source? I'll try to connect a Steam Link to the projector, that will clone via wireless my desktop from the pc, or maybe an Android TV box like the Nvidia Shield or the Xiaomi Mi Box or something like that.
Perhaps I don't understand this STEAM device, but I don't see how it solves your problem? Likely you could just put all your files on a USB Thumb Drive, and plug that into the projector. To make it easier, you could plug a USB extension cable into the Projector USB, and run it down the wall to a more easily accessible location.

I've never used the USB feature on most TV/Projectors, but from what I can tell it simply Auto-Plays the content in a loop. That does not give you much control, but you might be able to use the Projector Remote to skip through content to get to a specific piece. Again, I've not used this feature.

Alternately, probably the best would be a Laptop that has HDMI Out connected to the Projector. Again, run a cable down from the Projector to a convenient location for the Laptop. I think the projector has VGA video, but that cable is going to be harder to find and more bulk.

Quote:
The use of the projector, during the day when I receive my clients will be a loop of videos, according to the need of my clients. E.g. a couple that is going to get married come to my office, so the videos that loop will be my portfolio of wedding videos. Same for a client that need a commercial video or photos etc. They will sit on the sofa in the first picture, facing the photographic backdrop at around 13 feet from it.
Perhaps other can help you with the aspect of getting video from the Computer to the Projector. My actual experience in this is limited, but perhaps others have done this. I know there is a way to sync a Phone and your TV, if both have the necessary features. But that is the key - if both have the necessary features.

The solutions you suggested transmit the Video Signal wirelessly, that means the Projector would have to have or be adapted to receiver wireless signals. Again, I'm not going to be much help in this area.

It is going to be interesting to see what you come up with for this aspect - video from Computer to Projector.

Within reason, the other aspects seem to be solved, just a matter of making a decision. But the Video to Projector seems unclear, at least to me, at this point.

Let's see what others have to say on this aspect.

Steve/bluewizard
The link was corrupted. Here is what I wanted to send:
https://www.amazon.it/Energy-Sistem-.../dp/B00STGS5CW

I'll study you post better, thank you so much.
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The link was corrupted. Here is what I wanted to send:
https://www.amazon.it/Energy-Sistem-.../dp/B00STGS5CW

I'll study you post better, thank you so much.
Stick with the Tried and Try, not the cheap and obscure. The linked speaker might work. ...or... it might not.

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These are slightly over budget, would need something to drive them and eventually, a sub. No idea how much they run in Italy but they are $169 here in the states.

It's a VIRTUAL channel unless stated otherwise.

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You could use a pair of these 9" x 9" shelves as a simple way to support the Edifiers ->https://www.amazon.com/WELLAND-9-25-...ateway&sr=8-13

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