Originally Posted by Ofri Avizov
We are renovating a private house that have high ceiling and I need some assistance regard the location of the speakers so we can hear music in all the space of the room (living room and kitchen).
We will use the speakers mainly for music, but also for home cinema.
Illustration of the space:
- To the left and the right of the TV will be installed in-wall speakers Klipsch PRO-160RPW
- Above the TV (due to technical constraints) the Center speaker Klipsch RP-640D ON-WALL
- In the right corner of the room a subwoofer that has not yet decided which model
- Satellite speakers on the gallery floor (marked with red circles) 2 Cabasse EOLE 3 ball-shaped speakers
- Sony DN1080 AV receiver
1. Because the space is very large and the main use is music and we also want to hear in the kitchen area, we are debating whether to add two more Satellite speakers, such as the speakers hanging on the gallery floor (Cabasse Eole 3) towards to the kitchen. Do you think this is recommended? worth doing so?
2. If we want to add those 2 speakers, how do we support this in terms of the AV receiver? We wanted to use Zone 2 for the garden speaker and I also saw that the receiver does not support hearing from HDMI port in Zone 2. So how we can also use the additional speakers when we want to hear music in all the space (or only in the kitchen)? Maybe a speaker selector can help?
Any other comments/suggestions regard the speakers and the locations will be appreciated!
Hard to cut your post down when re-posting.
I would also consider Stereo. That space does not lend itself well to Surrounds. Though not impossible.
It is easy for people to look around their room and picture speakers every where, but the kicker is, how do you get wires to those speakers? The Front/Center are easy enough, but how do you wire the Surround speakers? Though the Ceiling? Through the Floors? Other?
On the right side wall, is that a Fireplace
in the center?
What is the long black bar under what I assume is a Fireplace?
Is the part of the breast cut off on the right similar to or identical to the part on the left?
What is the construction? That is are you sure you can cut into it and install In-Wall Speakers?
Also is it possible to shift all the furniture about 3 feet or so to the Left? (relative to the photo)
Everything seem cozy for the fireplace, but a bit close for a sound system.
Of the Klipsch
I would be more inclined toward the 8" Version -
Though the 6.5" version would be workable -
Next where will the TV or projection be? Above what I assume is a fireplace? And as long as it has come up, will it be a TV or a Projector?
65" TV are pretty cheap today, and 70" to 75" are pretty reasonable too.
Some can be $5,000 or $6,000, but remember just a few years ago they were $25,000.
Given how high your (what I assume is a)
Fireplace, there are what are called Down-and-Out TV Mounts.
Push them up high out of the way when not in use or when in Casual use, and pull it down in front of the fireplace for more serious watching.
Because the fireplace, the bane of all audio,
makes placing a Center a bit awkward, do consider stereo.
If the room, relative to the Fireplace, if it is symmetrical, and there is room on each side of the fireplace, my preference would be a floorstanding speaker on each side. It is actually relatively easy to get WHITE
speakers now, so they could blend in pretty much seamlessly.
Just a random illustration of a White Speaker -
Not a recommendation, though they are very good speakers, just an illustration.
Again, I worry about the construction of the Fireplace area and whether it will actually allow you to add In-Wall Speakers. If the whole thing is brick or stone, then you are in trouble. But if it is a woodframe space surrounding the fireplace insert, then adding speakers shouldn't be a problem.
If music is your primary concern, then I would think seriously about STEREO. Many of us, myself included, watch TV and Movies in Stereo with fine effect. I'm completely satisfied. You can still get great weight and impact from a Stereo. Though those of us who have Stereo still recognize the advantages of Surround Sound, it is about setting priorities, and in your case, getting the full Surround Sound System installed and WIRED.
In my case, despite watching more TV/Movies, my priority is music, so I have a Music system, meaning a Stereo. Though my system is somewhat unusual in that I have Two Amps and Two Pair of Speaker for movies (NO SUBS), I manage some pretty intense movie, I felt bass impact so intense it ruffled my hair.
Again, admittedly I have something of an odd-ball system, but it is fantastic for movie and for music -
Sorry about the Photo quality. And I didn't plan this system this way, these parts just accumulated over time.
Assuming the Kitchen and Dining (or breakfast area)
are in the back right corner, I don't think you are going to have a problem hearing the system there. Generally speaking, the more space you have to fill the larger the speakers need to be. If you want to add additional speaker in the kitchen that is up to you. Rather, I would add a main system with Network Streaming
, then add a smaller Network Streaming unit it the kitchen. These can act together or separately. That is you can broadcast to both the main system and the kitchen system, or the kitchen system can be independent of the main system.
To some extent we need to know the Budget
for the Audio Portion of this project. In addition, some general sense of your plans for the Video portion of the project. You are also going to have to consider where the Audio Equipment is going to be placed relative to your Speakers. That's going to influence where the wires are run, and the type and placement of the connections to be used.
That should do for a start, though I have much more to say. But this should get you started thinking about the possibilities.
Can you find something in all that that is helpful?