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Question Reverb...............

Bought my condo with existing surround sound speakers in each of the 4 corners of the room.

Bought a Sony soundbar.

Had a tech guy come and hook everything up.

QUESTION-PROBLEM: When the soundbar and the surround sound speakers are running simultaneously....there is a reverb/echo/delay.

Tech guy insists the reverb is unavoidable.

Unavoidable doesn't sound right to me.

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PureAcoustics speakers in the 4 corners of the room mounted at the top of the wall


Do everyone agree that a delay/reverb is unavoidable?

Many thanks for any thoughts.
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Not sure why you would want the sound bar and the wall speakers playing the same sounds.

I suspect you have the signal going from the receiver to both the speakers and the soundbar. The soundbar then does it’s own processing- which add some delay, before the sound comes out - resulting in the echo.

You effectively have two processors (soundbar and receiver) processing the signal - hence the timing mismatch. You can try adding a delay in the receiver, however I would personally, get rid of the soundbar and replace them with speakers if possible, or live with the built in speakers if aesthetics wouldn’t allow it


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Not sure why you would want the sound bar and the wall speakers playing the same sounds.

I suspect you have the signal going from the receiver to both the speakers and the soundbar. The soundbar then does it’s own processing- which add some delay, before the sound comes out - resulting in the echo.

You effectively have two processors (soundbar and receiver) processing the signal - hence the timing mismatch. You can try adding a delay in the receiver, however I would personally, get rid of the soundbar and replace them with speakers if possible, or live with the built in speakers if aesthetics wouldn’t allow it


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agreed. use one or the other. probably best to use the receiver, so all you will need is a center channel.

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Tech guy insists the reverb is unavoidable.

Unavoidable doesn't sound right to me.

Do everyone agree that a delay/reverb is unavoidable?

Many thanks for any thoughts.
You chose to compromise by trying to combine a powered soundbar setup with a passive speaker setup so I completely agree with the tech guy that compromised sound is the inevitable result.

To "cure" this, return the $1500 soundbar and get passive front speakers for you receiver or disconnect the four corner speakers and don't use the Denon at all.

As your receiver is 5.1, you will just have to buy a center channel and sub and use the rear corner speakers as your surrounds and your front corner speakers as the front left and right which is another compromise as the front left and right ideally should be at ear height when seated but that would still sound a lot better than what you have now IMHO.

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As everyone else already mentioned, you can't have both and expect good sound. A pair of bookshelf speakers, center and good sub will cost significantly less than the soundbar and will sound significantly better. Use the rear speakers as either height or surround. Front in-walls can be used as height channels as well.

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You have the perfect scenario for a three channel PASSIVE soundbar. Lots of good options out there from Golden Ear, Revel, KEF, Def Tech, PSB, Paradigm, Triad, Martin Logan, Monitor Audio ... to name just a few. Mixing two processors into the system was a mistake, so return the active soundbar and get back to echoless sound!

It's a VIRTUAL channel unless stated otherwise.

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