Originally Posted by bear123
Everyone listens with their ears, but using the eyes to look at the correct measurements and specs is a very accurate way to determine if the speaker will sound good. ...... Again, everyone has their own standards.
Yep, to each his own. I rather use my ears to determine how it will sound rather than look at "correct" (or incorrect if that may be the case) measurements and specs... to try to ascertain how it will sound. If Klipsch is lying about things (something I don't agree with), then it's just as reasonable that everyone else is lying about something or another so, they're all guilty of not being accurate depending on who's measurement units we're using. (if we used the Klipsch method to measure brand "X", brand "X" might give different results, so now we can say brand "X" is misrepresenting??)
I like to be somewhat simpleton about it.... if I have a 3" full range driver (think transistor radio type), irrespective of its specs, I know it's not going to work for me.
(absurd example, I know)
Now, move to various speakers that weigh 100 pounds, all 2-3 way double digit sized woofer... maybe some horns in the mix, now we're in the ballpark.
What do the specs say? Don't know, don't care. What do my ears say?
By using my ears and not any specs, I can help adjust for any lies, misinformation or misrepresentation that might be offered by a marketing department. "ohhhhh, this speaker will obliterate every other speaker in its price/size range"
Hmmm.... if that's the case then why do these other 12 speakers I've heard seem to sound better than this one?
But the specs on this are "A,B & C".... yeah, don't care. Sounds like crap. Just because you SAY it has these specs, doesn't mean it does (as per your comments on Klipsch) however, turnabout is fair play.... and these other companies are going to be held to the same discerning ears.
I always get a bit intrigued on people's focus on the specs. Maybe they're too young to have experienced the days (of old) when you could walk into various stores and literally, here some of these things side by side. (admittedly, not in your listening room but they were at least in the SAME room for the audition)
Listening was first and specs (for those who might be technically minded) might come second.
As I reflect on those days... yeah, I can see where someone technically minded might want to go hear/listen to speaker "X" because of its specs.....but in the end, it still involved hearing them.
For those not technically minded (perhaps myself), they'd just go and pick out what they felt sounded the best to them and move on with life.
What really intrigues me are people who say "I want to buy "brand X" stereo unit....need some speakers, what speakers will sound best with this??"
Uh.... you're backwards, you should buy your speakers first
and then buy the appropriate electronics to power them.