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Center Speaker Upgrade?

I’m considering redeeming a portion of my Sony Rewards points towards upgrading my center channel speaker for my home theater.

I currently have a Mitsubishi M-CTR6.

The Sony one I’m looking at is the SS-CS8.

They have compatible specifications so I’m not sure if it will be much of an upgrade at all.

Thoughts?
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KEF or DIY, that sony may be an upgrade considering the cores get a good review. My honest opinion though would be to buy something else sony if you have to use the rewards. A $75 center channel isnt going to be life changing lol.

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...Mitsubishi M-CTR6...Sony one I’m looking at is the SS-CS8. They have compatible specifications so I’m not sure if it will be much of an upgrade at all.
Let me say as a loudspeaker engineer that unfortunately speaker specifications are pretty much meaningless, especially for low priced products from giant companies. Even from very reputable companies you cannot compare ANY speaker specs to another company due to different methodology. Which makes it hard for consumers . Anyway, the Sony only has one 4" woofer which is too small, so forget that.

So yes use the Sony points for something else. Now, do you still want to upgrade the center? If so, what might your budget be, and what are your other system components? What do you listen to? (% movies, music, what types of music...)
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Have to agree with the others here... that won't be much of an upgrade
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I’m considering redeeming a portion of my Sony Rewards points towards upgrading my center channel speaker for my home theater.

I currently have a Mitsubishi M-CTR6.

The Sony one I’m looking at is the SS-CS8.

They have compatible specifications so I’m not sure if it will be much of an upgrade at all.

Thoughts?
No, it wouldn't be much of an upgrade at all...the Core center is widely reported to be the weak spot in the Core lineup (followed by the Core towers). If you absolutely have to use your SR points to buy Sony speakers you'd be better off buying a pair of the Core bookshelves and using one of them as a vertical center.

But personally I would spend your points on something else and get a really good center instead...the center does 70-90% of the HT/TV output so this is precisely where you DON'T want to cut corners esp. if HT/TV not music is your main usage.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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Buy these instead. Ridiculous sale price, good speaker (at moderate volumes):

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SSCS5-3-...SIN=B00O8YLMVA

You could even use one as your center (vertically).

It's a VIRTUAL channel unless stated otherwise.
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I’m considering redeeming a portion of my Sony Rewards points towards upgrading my center channel speaker for my home theater. I currently have a Mitsubishi M-CTR6. The Sony one I’m looking at is the SS-CS8. They have compatible specifications so I’m not sure if it will be much of an upgrade at all. Thoughts?

I don't know anything about that really old Mitsubishi speaker, but I doubt it's very good. The Sony Core speakers are currently 50% off, which is probably why you are looking at the CS8. I have all the Core speakers other than the Atmos modules and they are all excellent budget speakers and hard to beat at the sale price. The CS8 is a very capable center channel and I've used it for a while in my smallish living room on the middle floor of my house, which is open to other areas/rooms. I often sit at the table in our informal dining area, which is about 30' away, and have never had any problems with clarity or dialogue from the CS8, even at that distance. It is possible to use the CS5 bookshelf speaker as a center channel if you have the vertical space to do so. So I can't really say how either would compare to what you have now, but either Sony option would be a good and inexpensive option. Hope this helps.

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I don't know anything about that really old Mitsubishi speaker, but I doubt it's very good. The Sony Core speakers are
I use to own a Mitsubishi center, they are not really bad .... but one can do better

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I use to own a Mitsubishi center, they are not really bad .... but one can do better

Obviously, we don't know how his current center sounds.

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The Sony one I’m looking at is the SS-CS8.

They have compatible specifications so I’m not sure if it will be much of an upgrade at all.

Thoughts?
The Sony tweeter will be a little better ... other than reward points, is there any cash available for your budget ... but it will not hurt to test the Sony, since they have a return policy.

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Go JBL and be done with it.


https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-52...SIN=B00622SUHK


Later on, replace your other speakers with the JBL 5xx series lineup. This would be one terrific system for the money and one of which you'll be proud.

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Go JBL and be done with it.


https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-52...SIN=B00622SUHK


Later on, replace your other speakers with the JBL 5xx series lineup. This would be one terrific system for the money and one of which you'll be proud.

JBL 520c is a good center channel. I got that back in early June for $150, when I also bought the Studio 530 bookshelf speakers on sale for $300, which were supposedly on back-order until I believe June 20th. Never got the 530's on June 20th and when I called them I was told I would get them late September. Big difference in June 20th to late September.

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Let me say as a loudspeaker engineer that unfortunately speaker specifications are pretty much meaningless, especially for low priced products from giant companies. Even from very reputable companies you cannot compare ANY speaker specs to another company due to different methodology. Which makes it hard for consumers . Anyway, the Sony only has one 4" woofer which is too small, so forget that.

The CS8 has dual 4" woofers, not one. As a loudpeaker engineer you should recognize this speaker as fairly common MtM designed center channel.



I hate to recommend a center costing much more, since you were obviously looking to use reward points on the CS8 and didn't ask for other, more expensive options. However, I'll do it anyway, since that's kind of the AVS tradition. The Polk LSiM704c is currently on sale for 200 bones. The LSiM series is Polk's flagship line of speakers and I believe this is the lowest price ever on the 704c and a great deal on a great speaker . Here's the link. https://www.adorama.com/pkalsim704c....ce=rflaid62905
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That one will beat the Mitsubishi center

On a side note when Mitsubishi was selling those speakers, their receivers were made by Onkyo, but to this day some of us still do not know who made their speakers at that time. There was at least 7 parts to the crossover of the OP's center channel.

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For their price point, you can't get much better than BIC

http://www.bicamerica.com/showpage.p...pe=6&spkrID=41

The DV62CLR can be had for around $100

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bic-Ameri...peaker/9893705

I have the set and they sound great

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The CS8 has dual 4" woofers, not one. As a loudpeaker engineer you should recognize this speaker as fairly common MtM designed center channel.
Mmm...Sony's own site says "CENTER SPEAKER UNITS: WOOFER. 3.94 in cone type x 1" - their description made me think the second cone was a passive radiator. On the other hand looking more I found a picture with a port on the back, so I think Sony's page is wrong and you are correct, it is the acoustically not great but oh-so-common sideways MTM setup.

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...didn't ask for other, more expensive options. However, I'll do it anyway, since that's kind of the AVS tradition. The Polk LSiM704c is currently on sale for 200 bones.
OMG, that IS an insanely fabulous price. Geez, I might get one! And it avoids the MTM "Venetian blind" dispersion problems by having a small midrange under the tweeter. And larger woofers than the Sony. Thumbs up!
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