Originally Posted by pase22
For purely musical use, you don't need a sub that can play below 20hz. You need a sub that is accurate and isn't boomy. Of the course the obvious choice would be a Rhythmik L12 which are hard to beat for $500. Alternative options would be an RSL Speedwoofer or Elac sub 3010 which has the remote app for more fine tuning.
Yeah, hence why I am generally looking at sealed subs over ported ones as it is my understanding that those, on average, play faster/more accurate than ported. I do know that some ported can be as fast/accurate, but then you're getting into ones that are potentially 15" with properly-tuned ports (physically too big for my space). I also know that it doesn't have to be able to dig *that* deep - at most, my brain thinks mid to high 20Hz range is fine or maybe low 30Hz range will suit my needs. It's why I'm half-leaning towards the SVS SB-1000 or the B&W ASW610, and haven't crossed off the Monitor Audio Bronze W10.
The L12 is more than likely the smartest choice, I agree. I received a quote, and it would convert to just over $1000 CAD if I were to get the L12, but I would have to compromise on the amp. Since I am also trying to figure the amp out (whether to go with a cheap AVR or a higher-end integrated), it's a matter of where I make the compromise in that case.
I've poo-poo'd the RSL a few times already - that cheap, black, glossy plastic is a major no-go for me. The Elac 3010 is virtually the same sub as the S10EQ, which has been performing quite well to my ears, so I could consider that one.
My only concern (and it's actually a concern I have with the S10EQ) is whether the app that's used to operate the sub will be functional once iOS 13 onwards becomes available. As it stands right now, it doesn't - at least not the one that the S10EQ uses (I believe the others use an updated app). I don't have iOS 13 yet, but I have seen with my own eyes that the app doesn't work with that software update. Elac's support has been abysmal on that front, too. Plus, I'm *trying* to avoid getting any more black vinyl speakers (it's vain, I know, but I'm tired of it). If push comes to shove, I might compromise on my inner-WAF, and get something black.
(and as a note, a lot of this is me thinking out loud, and not necessarily shooting down any of your suggestions - apart from the RSL... believe it or not, I do actually carefully consider every suggestion even if I don't end up going with that option)