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post #31 of 41 Old 08-12-2019, 12:50 PM
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Yeah that's probably a good idea. I'd like to upgrade to 7.1.4 in the future but I'm not opposed to 5.1.4 for now.




5.1.4 for now it is. The denon 4400 is 1600 and the denon 4500 is 1500. Any big differences between the two?


The SVS subs look good too. Hard to find good subs in canada and the shipping from USA makes them pretty expensive. I can get 2 svs pb1000 for $1279.
If you're not opposed to B-stock (refurbished) AVR, you can get the Denon X4500 for $1000. SVS and Paradigm X series subs are pretty much your best options in Canada.
https://gibbyselectronicsupermarket....eiver-b-stock/

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Checked a few shops and the defiance x15 is 1900 here. Instead I can get 2 svs pb-1000's for $1279.
No brainer then unless you do a lot of music; 2 Pb1000s would be superior for movie effects across a broader area.
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Leaning towards these for my front speakers for now. If the sound is similar to towers, it's definitely worth it for the cost savings.
Certainly worth trying first. I think Amazon.ca should have similarly liberal return policies as in the US, just in case.
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Checked a few shops and the defiance x15 is 1900 here. Instead I can get 2 svs pb-1000's for $1279.
See what it costs with Power Sound Audio (PSA). Look at the S1510 and V1510.

https://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/v1510
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If you're not opposed to B-stock (refurbished) AVR, you can get the Denon X4500 for $1000. SVS and Paradigm X series subs are pretty much your best options in Canada.
https://gibbyselectronicsupermarket....eiver-b-stock/

Ah looks like I'm too late. Out of stock.


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No brainer then unless you do a lot of music; 2 Pb1000s would be superior for movie effects across a broader area.

Well my usage is pretty split between movies, gaming, tv shows, and music. Is the pb1000 not good for music?
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Well my usage is pretty split between movies, gaming, tv shows, and music. Is the pb1000 not good for music?
Let's just say there are more articulate options out there.

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Let's just say there are more articulate options out there.
There are, but he's in Canada, where selection is sparse and pricing is nuts.

This might be a better sub for music, though:
https://www.amazon.ca/Klipsch-Refere...gateway&sr=8-2

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Well my usage is pretty split between movies, gaming, tv shows, and music. Is the pb1000 not good for music?
Brent Butterworth preferred the SB1000 and RSL Speedwoofer for music in that price category.

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There are, but he's in Canada, where selection is sparse and pricing is nuts.

This might be a better sub for music, though:
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Brent Butterworth preferred the SB1000 and RSL Speedwoofer for music in that price category.
Would the average person really notice the difference between the SVS and say the klipsch sub linked above or the Sb1000? I'm a big music listener (hip-hop) but I wouldn't consider myself a huge audiophile or anything like that.
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Would the average person really notice the difference between the SVS and say the klipsch sub linked above or the Sb1000? I'm a big music listener (hip-hop) but I wouldn't consider myself a huge audiophile or anything like that.
FWIW, I haven't heard the PB1000 myself, but have seen a few music lovers really rip them for their music performance. If your room is totally enclosed and of a moderate size (say, 12 x 15 feet) the SB1000 would be a better bet if music is your first priority, esp. if you have the option of nearfield placement if needed.
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Would the average person really notice the difference between the SVS and say the klipsch sub linked above or the Sb1000? I'm a big music listener (hip-hop) but I wouldn't consider myself a huge audiophile or anything like that.
For Hip Hop probably not.

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