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all pretty good , i get the feeling the 703 fits my ear the best...but the tweeter , being rumored to be bright makes me a wee bit nervous .. thanks btw edit : they all look very good the nht may be great to my ear as well .. i like that little upper mid/ treble dip...

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the 703 fits my ear the best.
And I thought I had big ears
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this is certainly possible...
i get the feeling that the off axis response the 170's have brings the aquarium glass(lots of it, near the left front.. 5 ft tank and 4 ft tank ) more into play than most other speakers.. i think if i had a "dead" room the 170's would be unbelievably great...

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all pretty good , i get the feeling the 703 fits my ear the best...but the tweeter , being rumored to be bright makes me a wee bit nervous .. thanks btw edit : they all look very good the nht may be great to my ear as well .. i like that little upper mid/ treble dip...
It's probably best to point them either straight ahead, or crossed a good distance in front of you. Basically, they are bright if you sit on-axis +/- 20 degrees.

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I'd say the Q100s are *way* more forward than the 170s. Although their mid-bass punch does make them more fun to listen to, in small doses.
Do you think the 170s would be too lively for a hard-floor, hard-wall room?

Maybe ok if it's nearfield on a desk?

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Do you think the 170s would be too lively for a hard-floor, hard-wall room? Maybe ok if it's nearfield on a desk?
I had the 170s in a room with ceramic tile floor and hard walls, and they were fine...just needed a sub to fill in the bottom end is all.

For nearfield I'd pick a warm speaker...giving up some treble dynamics/detail is worth never risking ear fatigue. Love my Wharfedales nearfield!

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Do you think the 170s would be too lively for a hard-floor, hard-wall room?

Maybe ok if it's nearfield on a desk?
they will be real nice in near field...

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I had the 170s in a room with ceramic tile floor and hard walls, and they were fine...just needed a sub to fill in the bottom end is all.

For nearfield I'd pick a warm speaker...giving up some treble dynamics/detail is worth never risking ear fatigue. Love my Wharfedales nearfield!
i couldn't argue your point here .. but i do think the 170's would be good nearfield for the fact they won't be forward at low volume..at least imo...

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I had the 170s in a room with ceramic tile floor and hard walls, and they were fine...just needed a sub to fill in the bottom end is all.

For nearfield I'd pick a warm speaker...giving up some treble dynamics/detail is worth never risking ear fatigue. Love my Wharfedales nearfield!
225s?

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225s?
10.1

The 22x series is reportedly a good bit more neutral, ditto for the current 11.x Diamonds

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i couldn't argue your point here .. but i do think the 170's would be good nearfield for the fact they won't be forward at low volume..at least imo...
Not sure, but the lack of more mid-bass extension might make them sound a little thin.

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im staying put.


i use a sub with the 530s and movies/music sound magnificent.

i bought 2 pairs of the 530s, 1 pair is unboxed. using a pair of AAMs on my desktop. also have another pair of AAMs unboxed.
i wouldnt sell either if my life depended on it.

i need to get away from this forum.
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im staying put.


i use a sub with the 530s and movies/music sound magnificent.

i bought 2 pairs of the 530s, 1 pair is unboxed. using a pair of AAMs on my desktop. also have another pair of AAMs unboxed.
i wouldnt sell either if my life depended on it.

i need to get away from this forum.
yep.. good call

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im staying put.
i use a sub with the 530s and movies/music sound magnificent.

i bought 2 pairs of the 530s, 1 pair is unboxed. using a pair of AAMs on my desktop. also have another pair of AAMs unboxed.
i wouldnt sell either if my life depended on it.

i need to get away from this forum.
Yes, take a break
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Not sure, but the lack of more mid-bass extension might make them sound a little thin.
i think they have enough for near field but that's just my opinion.. it all depends on the amount of mid bass you want..
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10.1

The 22x series is reportedly a good bit more neutral, ditto for the current 11.x Diamonds
And by that you mean, they don't roll off the top end as much? That is the impression I get.

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And by that you mean, they don't roll off the top end as much? That is the impression I get.
yes, and probably less of a mid-bass hump if I remember correctly.

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im staying put.


i use a sub with the 530s and movies/music sound magnificent.

i bought 2 pairs of the 530s, 1 pair is unboxed. using a pair of AAMs on my desktop. also have another pair of AAMs unboxed.
i wouldnt sell either if my life depended on it.

i need to get away from this forum.
How do the AAMs compare to the 530s? Is that something you posted in another thread?
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yes, and probably less of a mid-bass hump if I remember correctly.
I want to trial the PSB Alpha P5s against the Wharfedale Diamond 225s on my desk. With the Ascend 170s for reference.

Reason being, they are the nicest looking passive desk speakers at $350. They both have a nice walnut veneer. The Ascends are just plain black, but the measurements are killer and I think it would be a good reference of what "flat" is. I'm not sure if this will happen, but I'd like to do it.
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I want to trial the PSB Alpha P5s against the Wharfedale Diamond 225s on my desk. With the Ascend 170s for reference.

Reason being, they are the nicest looking passive desk speakers at $350. They both have a nice walnut veneer. The Ascends are just plain black, but the measurements are killer and I think it would be a good reference of what "flat" is. I'm not sure if this will happen, but I'd like to do it.
you should.. the 170's are eye openers for clarity and clean detail at the price.. you might not like them , but you will admire them i think...

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you should.. the 170's are eye openers for clarity and clean detail at the price.. you might not like them , but you will admire them i think...
I don't believe Tharbamar has reviewed the Ascends, but he has compared the new Wharfedales to the PSBs and he thought the PSBs are more balanced.

Pretty much everyone seems to love the sound of the JBL 530s. Just seems like a loveable, non-controversial sound. But quick, to the Batcave...
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I don't believe Tharbamar has reviewed the Ascends, but he has compared the new Wharfedales to the PSBs and he thought the PSBs are more balanced.

Pretty much everyone seems to love the sound of the JBL 530s. Just seems like a loveable, non-controversial sound. But quick, to the Batcave...
i'm pissed i didn't jump on the sale.. i think i would like them(530's).......those 170's really are fun..i kinda think they sound forward because of all the reflective surfaces (fish tanks) close to the left speaker, just glass everywhere, any speaker that's the least bit aggressive sounds brutal ...

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I want to trial the PSB Alpha P5s against the Wharfedale Diamond 225s on my desk. With the Ascend 170s for reference.

Reason being, they are the nicest looking passive desk speakers at $350. They both have a nice walnut veneer. The Ascends are just plain black, but the measurements are killer and I think it would be a good reference of what "flat" is. I'm not sure if this will happen, but I'd like to do it.
The p5 appears to be a pretty decent speaker. It would be an interesting comparison.
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How do the AAMs compare to the 530s? Is that something you posted in another thread?
im really not the right person to ask. i dont do a/b testing and sit for hours comparing speakers. i dont do spl meter, read graphs and all the technical stuff.

but
the aams definitely have more bass. perfect for a desktop if you dont want to use a sub.
i like the treble on the jbls more (i personally like a brighter sound), though i up the treble with the aams a bit. its hard to decide

i had klipsch rp160s and i loved those, i like the aams better. the highs and lows just sound more even, together, mellower. again, perfect for desktop use. no fatigue after hours of listening at all. i couldnt do that with the rp160s (couple hours was fine). i havent tried the 530s for desktop.

of all speakers ive owned though. the aams are the best bang for buck at $230 shipped, or the jbl 530s at $300 shipped.
cant decide on that one.

the aams have more hours on them than any other speaker ive owned and i think that says something. $230 shipped, geez man the kit itself is like $180 and unassembled.
i received these assembled and with upgraded crossover, shipped from the other side of the country.

one thing i have noticed about the 530s that is pretty awesome. not sure what audiophiles call it, dispersion maybe? soundstage?

but

no matter where you are in front of the speakers, in direct mode, if you stand to the left or the right, ,anywhere, the sound always seems like its right in front of you.
didnt get that so much before
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im really not the right person to ask. i dont do a/b testing and sit for hours comparing speakers. i dont do spl meter, read graphs and all the technical stuff.

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the aams definitely have more bass. perfect for a desktop if you dont want to use a sub.
i like the treble on the jbls more (i personally like a brighter sound), though i up the treble with the aams a bit. its hard to decide

i had klipsch rp160s and i loved those, i like the aams better. the highs and lows just sound more even, together, mellower. again, perfect for desktop use. no fatigue after hours of listening at all. i couldnt do that with the rp160s (couple hours was fine). i havent tried the 530s for desktop.

of all speakers ive owned though. the aams are the best bang for buck at $230 shipped, or the jbl 530s at $300 shipped.
cant decide on that one.

the aams have more hours on them than any other speaker ive owned and i think that says something. $230 shipped, geez man the kit itself is like $180 and unassembled.
i received these assembled and with upgraded crossover, shipped from the other side of the country.

one thing i have noticed about the 530s that is pretty awesome. not sure what audiophiles call it, dispersion maybe? soundstage?

but

no matter where you are in front of the speakers, in direct mode, if you stand to the left or the right, ,anywhere, the sound always seems like its right in front of you.
didnt get that so much before
Thanks for sharing. I believe it is soundstage, but not being the true audiophile either, I can't say. Those jbls really have had an almost cult-like following, and I've always been interested. Had I not been overloaded with speakers already, I might have jumped on that $300 sale. Luckily for my wallet, they sold out quickly, so I didn't have time to change my mind.

Saying that though, yesterday I decided to go ahead and grab a pair of AAMs that was listed on craigslist (I just couldn't resist!), so I am currently getting a nice dose of how good they are. They do not seem to really shine in any one particular area like some speakers do, but they do everything well, and don't seem to have any real drawbacks. Looks like I may have found a winner in my 2.0 office setup, although it is a little early. I do really like them though.
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I guess I'll chime in since I've owned a lot of the speakers already mentioned in this thread: the Q100's, 225's, 170SE's, AAM's, 10.1s, and the 10.2's.

For me, the Q100's and 170SE's are too bright and forward. The Q100 have more bass so they are better balanced to my ears. With a sub, I'd pick the 170SE.

The 10.1 and 10.2 don't have much top-end extension at all, but have very smooth mids and nice mid-bass and upper-bass kick. The 10.2's go a little deeper and have less forward mids, so they are probably more neutral but still don't have much treble extension. They both are 100% fatigue-free, though, and are dirt cheap with incredible looks for the price.

The 225's and AAM's share many similarities. However, the AAM's just do everything a little bit better. Deeper, punchier bass, more treble extension, and smoother mids. The AAM's are ever-so-slightly too laid-back in the mids for some genres, however, and I never really liked them as much for movies/TV and heavier music. Since the AAM's are now gone outside of the used market, I'd go for the 225's for something new-in-box with a similar sound. If a bargain can be had for some used AAM's, just grab 'em while you can.

I would also recommend the 200-series over the 11.x series since I've heard very few positive things about the 11-series and the measurements don't look too great. Conversely, the 200-series has great measurements and scores of good reviews. I prefer the 225 to either the 10.1 or 10.2, overall. I did not care for the 220 much at all (too thin, lack of bass.)

All that said, for $350, brand new, I'd pick another speaker altogether: Elac Uni-Fi B5.

I like it better than all the above aside from maybe the AAM's. Bass is as deep as the Q100 and AAM. Treble is just as extended but never rises. The mids are sweet and detailed but never bright or harsh and work perfect for both movies/TV and music. They do the whole "point-source" imaging thing as well as the Q100. I think they are often overlooked and should garner more attention than they do since they were originally released. They have also fixed the "green-tint" issue of the initial run.

Just some food for thought.
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I guess I'll chime in since I've owned a lot of the speakers already mentioned in this thread: the Q100's, 225's, 170SE's, AAM's, 10.1s, and the 10.2's.

For me, the Q100's and 170SE's are too bright and forward. The Q100 have more bass so they are better balanced to my ears. With a sub, I'd pick the 170SE.

The 10.1 and 10.2 don't have much top-end extension at all, but have very smooth mids and nice mid-bass and upper-bass kick. The 10.2's go a little deeper and have less forward mids, so they are probably more neutral but still don't have much treble extension. They both are 100% fatigue-free, though, and are dirt cheap with incredible looks for the price.

The 225's and AAM's share many similarities. However, the AAM's just do everything a little bit better. Deeper, punchier bass, more treble extension, and smoother mids. The AAM's are ever-so-slightly too laid-back in the mids for some genres, however, and I never really liked them as much for movies/TV and heavier music. Since the AAM's are now gone outside of the used market, I'd go for the 225's for something new-in-box with a similar sound. If a bargain can be had for some used AAM's, just grab 'em while you can.

I would also recommend the 200-series over the 11.x series since I've heard very few positive things about the 11-series and the measurements don't look too great. Conversely, the 200-series has great measurements and scores of good reviews. I prefer the 225 to either the 10.1 or 10.2, overall. I did not care for the 220 much at all (too thin, lack of bass.)

All that said, for $350, brand new, I'd pick another speaker altogether: Elac Uni-Fi B5.

I like it better than all the above aside from maybe the AAM's. Bass is as deep as the Q100 and AAM. Treble is just as extended but never rises. The mids are sweet and detailed but never bright or harsh and work perfect for both movies/TV and music. They do the whole "point-source" imaging thing as well as the Q100. I think they are often overlooked and should garner more attention than they do since they were originally released. They have also fixed the "green-tint" issue of the initial run.

Just some food for thought.
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All that said, for $350, brand new, I'd pick another speaker altogether: Elac Uni-Fi B5.
I've been curious about this speaker for a long time, but was scared off by all the reports of people saying that they need a heft amp to really sound good. Has that been your experience?
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