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Logical upgrade from emotiva b1?

just curious as to everybody's thoughts ..after returning to the b1's from the ascend cbm 170's i decided that i want the sound sig of the emo but better detail and definition..just curious as to any input from b1 owners (and anybody really).. thanks for any thoughts...

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just curious as to everybody's thoughts ..after returning to the b1's from the ascend cbm 170's i decided that i want the sound sig of the emo but better detail and definition..just curious as to any input from b1 owners (and anybody really).. thanks for any thoughts...
What happened to the 170s? Why the switch back?

What price range are you looking at? What about the Chane's A1.5 ? A real treat would be Chane's A2.4
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What happened to the 170s? Why the switch back?

What price range are you looking at? What about the Chane's A1.5 ? A real treat would be Chane's A2.4
i was just messing around with the 170's , i use them as centers and like them..they are a bit too much for my room set up (for music) , they come off as forward..chane might be a good fit , but i'm looking a bit higher end ..that would be a more sideways move i think.. i was thinking sierra 1, nht c3 as a start..maybe ls 50 , if i can find a deal .. maybe dynaudio ...

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that's a decent starting point.. i just want to avoid anything resembling shouty..a bit bright doesn't phase me..

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they look a bit above my pay grade.. i'm pretty low rent.. let's keep it under a grand..

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they look a bit above my pay grade.. i'm pretty low rent.. let's keep it under a grand..
Chane A5.4?

If you want to stick to bookshelf speakers, Totem Rainmaker:

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I don’t know if you would consider this an upgrade but this is what I did: B1 to JBL Studio 530.

I’m enjoying the switch. YMMV
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I don’t know if you would consider this an upgrade but this is what I did: B1 to JBL Studio 530.

I’m enjoying the switch. YMMV
i kinda think that might be pretty good too .. i was even considering the kef q150's because i like the q100's so much..
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Chane A5.4?

If you want to stick to bookshelf speakers, Totem Rainmaker:

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no chane for me .. i consider them a sideways move.. and other factors i won't go into.. totem sounds like an idea .. and yes , books only right now.. thanks...edit.. just saw the totem measurements , looks too treble heavy for my taste.. i'm more into smooth , that rising treble from about 5k hz scares me a bit..
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Heh.

Klipsch RP600M’s.

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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Heh.

Klipsch RP600M’s.
lol .. your killin' me.. i actually thought about them.. then thought "horn loaded big book in a small room with refection issues"..... came to the conclusion that might be a bad combo

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lol .. your killin' me.. i actually thought about them.. then thought "horn loaded big book in a small room with refection issues"..... came to the conclusion that might be a bad combo

90° dispersion vs 180° on the Ascends.

I think they could be the one....

But we shall see what you end up with

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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90° dispersion vs 180° on the Ascends.

I think they could be the one....

But we shall see what you end up with
they are on discount right now , i'll look at some measurements

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i kinda think that might be pretty good too .. i was even considering the kef q150's because i like the q100's so much..
JBL 530 or KEF Q150 would be my thinking as well. Preference for the former if you prefer neutrality yet with detail.

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Klipsch RP600M’s.
That could also be an interesting choice.

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dispersion of 180° on the Ascends

Would that make them theoretically great height (on ceiling) speakers?
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no chane for me .. i consider them a sideways move.. and other factors i won't go into.. totem sounds like an idea .. and yes , books only right now.. thanks...edit.. just saw the totem measurements , looks too treble heavy for my taste.. i'm more into smooth , that rising treble from about 5k hz scares me a bit..
my gosh you're picky. I wanted a 9 girl , brunette, rich, drives a lambo, big boobs, fit, feeds me grapes every night, goes to liquor store to buy me beer and Tequila....

You know what I got?

6 who is broke, worked at a strip club, smokes like a chimney, cusses, no boobs, flat rear end, I have to rub her feet, and I have to drive to the liquor store to get MY own alcohol

See where I'm going here??

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Wait, I got it!

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Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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i was just messing around with the 170's , i use them as centers and like them..they are a bit too much for my room set up (for music) , they come off as forward..chane might be a good fit , but i'm looking a bit higher end ..that would be a more sideways move i think.. i was thinking sierra 1, nht c3 as a start..maybe ls 50 , if i can find a deal .. maybe dynaudio ...
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...ck-pair/1.html

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Would that make them theoretically great height (on ceiling) speakers?

I think any speaker mounted on the ceiling will be 100% better than a reflection speaker.

But yes wide dispersion makes for good Atmos effects
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Try Mackie MR624s.

I went from AirMotiv 5s and 6s to these and they are great.
no pre outs .. but i think you might have a good idea what i'm looking for .. that same amt (type)smoothness with a better midrange .. i was even thinking wd reva 2 , but my guess is they probably have that mid bass hump that makes me think "bloated".. maybe not though

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have you seen the measurements ? i haven't even looked yet..

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have you seen the measurements ? i haven't even looked yet..

Not worth the time

And I’m scared I’ll get an angry email saying that they measure perfectly fine or they will take them off their website otherwise!
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no chane for me .. i consider them a sideways move.. and other factors i won't go into.. totem sounds like an idea .. and yes , books only right now.. thanks...edit.. just saw the totem measurements , looks too treble heavy for my taste.. i'm more into smooth , that rising treble from about 5k hz scares me a bit..
Yeah, looks like a Polk FR curve. If you are using a receiver with some sort of room tuning/eq, both those humps would be easy to remove. It's difficult now to even find a speaker that does not have rising treble. Wharfedale? PSB? Ascend ... and Dynaudio, but your budget will be an issue there.


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And I’m scared I’ll get an angry email saying that they measure perfectly fine or they will take them off their website otherwise!
that review thread cracked me up, ya , i don't think i could do their speakers just on general principle .. they don't have any type of decent return policy either .. that scares me off by itself after seeing the review fiasco..i am thinking reva 2 maybe .. but the mid bass hump gets me thinking , no .. i could order some dyns .. the dealer is literally right down the street from me...
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that review thread cracked me up, ya , i don't think i could do their speakers just on general principle .. they don't have any type of decent return policy either .. that scares me off by itself after seeing the review fiasco..i am thinking reva 2 maybe .. but the mid bass hump gets me thinking .. no .. i could order some dyns .. the dealer is literally right down the street from me...

That Mariogonzalezzzzzz dude says he was offered free return shipping by Adorama on the 703’s which were (are?) on sale.

I’d start there, the listening window is very similar to the Ascends but the ring radiator tweeter should be a bit softer on the ears.

If anything I’d think they were warmer than bright.
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i might actually give those a go..good thing is , i am not in a hurry at all ,, i am just chillin and waiting for the right deal to smack me in the head...you think nht c1's would have enough spl capability (the room is about 12x14x8),, they are sealed ..

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