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Possible to get 5.1 Speakers under $1000?

Hi all,
I am planning to spend a max of $1000 for Speakers - 2 Front, 1 center, 2 Rear & 1 Subwoofer.
Is it possible to get all these under $1000? If so, can you please recommend me the models?
BTW, mostly I will end up with a Receiver Yamaha RXV-585

Of course due to budget constraints, if I know impossible under $1000, I have no option other than postponing my decision to next year

Room details:
Viewing distance from 120" screen to couch is roughly 17 feet.

This area is in finished basement with 'NO' sound proofing done in dry wall

thanks in advance
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Yes it’s possible. I’ve never heard RSL speakers but supposedly very good for the money. Here’s their 5.1 system.

https://rslspeakers.com/products/cg3...heater-system/


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Yes it’s possible. I’ve never heard RSL speakers but supposedly very good for the money. Here’s their 5.1 system.

https://rslspeakers.com/products/cg3...heater-system/


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Not a rhetorical question: would you regard the CG3 based system as adequate for a 17' (5m +) listening distance?

The CG3 is a nice speaker, but it has only a 4" woofer. The Speedwoofer is supposed to be good, but I'm not sure that it would work well in a large space.
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RSL is a solid choice for that budget. Nice, all in one solution that gives you quality all around. Yeah, you could cobble together something else from multiple manufacturers, but it would only be different, not better.

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Hi all,
I am planning to spend a max of $1000 for Speakers - 2 Front, 1 center, 2 Rear & 1 Subwoofer.
Is it possible to get all these under $1000? If so, can you please recommend me the models?
BTW, mostly I will end up with a Receiver Yamaha RXV-585

Of course due to budget constraints, if I know impossible under $1000, I have no option other than postponing my decision to next year

Room details:
Viewing distance from 120" screen to couch is roughly 17 feet.

This area is in finished basement with 'NO' sound proofing done in dry wall

thanks in advance
You can get the Sony Core series. They sound very good to me.
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Another option is Emotiva.

4 x B1's for L/R and surrounds
https://emotiva.com/collections/loud...ts/airmotiv-b1

1 x C1 for center
https://emotiva.com/collections/loud...ts/airmotiv-c1

$707 for the 5. part. Now the .1 part is where you want the absolute best you can afford. The RSL speedwoofer is very good for the price. For more impact the Monoprice 10 THX can sometimes be had around 425.00 which is a very good deal. Keep an eye out on the Deals thread. Rythmik and HSU both great to but a bit north of $500 for those nice subs.

Deals thread.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/122-great-found-deals/

A pretty good sub is the Infinity R12 for $199.00 for a refurbished unit.
https://www.harmanaudio.com/infinity...SABEgI_tPD_BwE
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Not with your space. Either start with a solid 2.1 system or postpone it. You’ll end up upgrading multiple times (and spending much more money than you need to) as no system at this price range will be satisfactory in your space.

I’d start at $2500 for a space that big. You’ll need powerful speakers and even more powerful sub. All of which are not cheap.
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Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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Not with your space. Either start with a solid 2.1 system or postpone it. You’ll end up upgrading multiple times (and spending much more money than you need to) as no system at this price range will be satisfactory in your space.

I’d start at $2500 for a space that big. You’ll need powerful speakers and even more powerful sub. All of which are not cheap.
That is a big space and ya know I spaced when I posted

You are a perfect candidate for DIY speakers that will fill that space with sound and be affordable. Check these HT speakers out at DIYSoundGroup. 5 of those and then build your own sub. Plenty of advice over at the DIY forum here.

https://www.diysoundgroup.com/home-t...e-theater.html
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Of course due to budget constraints, if I know impossible under $1000, I have no option other than postponing my decision to next year
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Hi all,
I am planning to spend a max of $1000 for Speakers - 2 Front, 1 center, 2 Rear & 1 Subwoofer.
Is it possible to get all these under $1000? If so, can you please recommend me the models?
BTW, mostly I will end up with a Receiver Yamaha RXV-585

Of course due to budget constraints, if I know impossible under $1000, I have no option other than postponing my decision to next year

Room details:
Viewing distance from 120" screen to couch is roughly 17 feet.

This area is in finished basement with 'NO' sound proofing done in dry wall
Assuming this is all TV/HT and you aren't trying to do +85db ear-splitting volumes all the time, $1K actually is doable:

3 x NHT SuperOne, $300 shipped from Amazon
2 x NHT SuperZeros, $100 shipped from Amazon
1 x Hsu VTF-2 sub, currently on sale - $580 shipped from hsuresearch.com
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Assuming this is all TV/HT and you aren't trying to do +85db ear-splitting volumes all the time, $1K actually is doable:

3 x NHT SuperOne, $300 shipped from Amazon
2 x NHT SuperZeros, $100 shipped from Amazon
1 x Hsu VTF-2 sub, currently on sale - $580 shipped from hsuresearch.com
NHT is a wise choice, not to mention if you wanted to play music through them at some point they are good for that also.

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For just a few dollars more, $1159. you can get a HSU 5.1 Hybrid1 System.
Highly efficient they do great with little power. Dr Hsu demos them at audio shows with low power receivers to prove it.

I highly doubt you'll touch it for the money.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hybrid1pkg.html


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That is a big space and ya know I spaced when I posted



You are a perfect candidate for DIY speakers that will fill that space with sound and be affordable. Check these HT speakers out at DIYSoundGroup. 5 of those and then build your own sub. Plenty of advice over at the DIY forum here.



https://www.diysoundgroup.com/home-t...e-theater.html

All I saw was 17’ viewing distance and I was like oh ho no!

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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For just a few dollars more, $1159. you can get a HSU 5.1 Hybrid1 System.
Highly efficient they do great with little power. Dr Hsu demos them at audio shows with low power receivers to prove it.

I highly doubt you'll touch it for the money.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hybrid1pkg.html


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Another recommendation that will give you a killer setup for slightly over $1k is to run active -- These speakers are bi-amplified with dynamics through the roof, they're highly accurate and transparent studio monitors with tons of clean output that you'd need for a room that large. Notice, I did not include a subwoofer because I believe you'd be better off saving money for something that will actually make a real difference in your room. I'd highly recommend going DIY if you can (for the most bang for your buck), if not save up for a subwoofer from JTR, Rhythmik, PSA, Seaton, DSS, etc.

I can tell you right now that it'd be extremely difficult to beat such a setup for the money... and I'd reckon this setup would put a lot more expensive 5 Ch. setups to shame as well. These speakers perform FAR above their price point. They replaced my B&W 805 D3s until I moved them to my desktop (And they outperformed them in every single way, I've never been so angry -- for spending so much on B&W Diamonds of course -- and happy -- for saving a ton of money while managing to discover such a speaker -- at the same time). I now use the 708Ps for my mains.

5 x JBL 308Ps (B-Stock from JBL w/ 5 Yr. Warranty @ $135/ea from ProAudioStar)

(For your surrounds, sure you can save even more money with the smaller 306Ps or 305Ps, but they're not too much less B-Stock or Used than the 308Ps and all matching speakers would be ideal anyway.)

Yamaha RX-A1050 ($500 from Accessories4Less -- Manufacturer Refurbished with 1 Yr. Warranty)
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Denon X3400H ($480 from Accessories4Less -- Manufacturer Refurbished with 1 Yr. Warranty)
(Both AVRs have preouts)
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For just a few dollars more, $1159. you can get a HSU 5.1 Hybrid1 System.
Highly efficient they do great with little power. Dr Hsu demos them at audio shows with low power receivers to prove it.

I highly doubt you'll touch it for the money.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hybrid1pkg.html


Add $213 for shipping.

Also, the VTF-1 Mk3 may not be enough sub for that space.

(I have Hsu CCB-8s for LCR, and four HB-1 Mk2s for my other 4 base speakers. My subs are two VTF-3 Mk5. I can't be accused of not liking Hsu products.)

A Hsu HB-1/HC-1 5.0 package ($799 + 157) plus a VTF-3 ($799 + 96) might be a good choice, but that's $1851.

There may be a $1k package that'd work in the OP's space, but I don't know what it is. This one would at least have a little more volume potential than the RSLs: https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...package/1.html
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[QUOTE=Newuser2018;58418592]Hi all,
I am planning to spend a max of $1000 for Speakers - 2 Front, 1 center, 2 Rear & 1 Subwoofer.
Is it possible to get all these under $1000? If so, can you please recommend me the models?
BTW, mostly I will end up with a Receiver Yamaha RXV-585

Of course due to budget constraints, if I know impossible under $1000, I have no option other than postponing my decision to next year

Room details:
Viewing distance from 120" screen to couch is roughly 17 feet.

This area is in finished basement with 'NO' sound proofing done in dry wall

thanks in advance[/QUOTE
Plenty of options at that price depending on how big of a sound you expect to get. Here's one more example of what is available at your price point. I've heard these at a demo and they were impressive for their size.
https://www.svsound.com/products/prime-satellite-5-1

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Considering the above comments, my advice: skip the surrounds for now. Fit the Front Left, Right, Center, and Sub into $1k, and buy surrounds later. You'll get a much better system that way. As the surrounds add much less sound to the system than the other speakers, they should be a lower priority.

These: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/209-a...-speakers.html

And this: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-15hmk2.html

I doubt this can be beaten at this level.

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Considering the above comments, my advice: skip the surrounds for now. Fit the Front Left, Right, Center, and Sub into $1k, and buy surrounds later. You'll get a much better system that way. As the surrounds add much less sound to the system than the other speakers, they should be a lower priority.

These: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/209-a...-speakers.html

And this: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-15hmk2.html

I doubt this can be beaten at this level.
The savings may not be huge, but Hsu also has a clearance center: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/clearance.html
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Another recommendation that will give you a killer setup for slightly over $1k is to run active -- These speakers are bi-amplified with dynamics through the roof, they're highly accurate and transparent studio monitors with tons of clean output that you'd need for a room that large. Notice, I did not include a subwoofer because I believe you'd be better off saving money for something that will actually make a real difference in your room. I'd highly recommend going DIY if you can (for the most bang for your buck), if not save up for a subwoofer from JTR, Rhythmik, PSA, Seaton, DSS, etc.

I can tell you right now that it'd be extremely difficult to beat such a setup for the money... and I'd reckon this setup would put a lot more expensive 5 Ch. setups to shame as well. These speakers perform FAR above their price point. They replaced my B&W 805 D3s until I moved them to my desktop (And they outperformed them in every single way, I've never been so angry -- for spending so much on B&W Diamonds of course -- and happy -- for saving a ton of money while managing to discover such a speaker -- at the same time). I now use the 708Ps for my mains.

5 x JBL 308Ps (B-Stock from JBL w/ 5 Yr. Warranty @ $135/ea from ProAudioStar)

(For your surrounds, sure you can save even more money with the smaller 306Ps or 305Ps, but they're not too much less B-Stock or Used than the 308Ps and all matching speakers would be ideal anyway.)

Yamaha RX-A1050 ($500 from Accessories4Less -- Manufacturer Refurbished with 1 Yr. Warranty)
OR
Denon X3400H ($480 from Accessories4Less -- Manufacturer Refurbished with 1 Yr. Warranty)
(Both AVRs have preouts)
I'd like to hear this set up!

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Considering the above comments, my advice: skip the surrounds for now. Fit the Front Left, Right, Center, and Sub into $1k, and buy surrounds later. You'll get a much better system that way. As the surrounds add much less sound to the system than the other speakers, they should be a lower priority.


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adding on to this sentiment... another worthy contender(s) at this price point is Ascend acoustics CBM 170 or CMT 340 or some combination thereof.

LCR puts you into the 500 - 700 range. leaves enough for a capable sub and stay in budget.

Considering the size of the room the 340's might be a better bet. with either speaker you can get by without a sub for awhile.

lastly, if the budget is the limiting factor, don't forget about going used.

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Thanks for all your posts & suggestions.
I forgot to add one important thing if it makes sense....
Currently I have Samsung HT-J5530 Model comprising of a Bluray player with connections to 2 Front speakers, 2 Rear speakers & 1 Passive Subwoofer. Their RMS watts is 1000 watts (of course later I realized this does not actually matter). So I bought the whole system for $400 from Best buy last year. This is what I could spend last year as my requirement was just to be able to watch movies in a big screen with a PJ Epson 2150 and honestly, i have never used any of the Hi-tech speakers/systems such as Yamaha, etc. but can tell you that Samsung system i have is just OK not so great of course look at the budget
So now, do you think spending max of $1000 can beat this Samsung (I expect much more obviously)? I am sure there are lot of Techies/Experts here who have been using professional audio systems for long time & can definitely do some comparison & give recommendations based on that.
If you believe spending $1000 does not beat Samsung too much, I might continue this way & try to spend $1500 next year

Hope what i ask makes sense....

Thanks a lot again for your valuable time
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So now, do you think spending max of $1000 can beat this Samsung (I expect much more obviously)?
Easily.

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Have you thought about used? You could get a lot more bang for the buck. The $400 you paid for the Samsung is OK, especially if you're happy with it, but going used will provide more opportunities for better sound.
For example, a few months ago I purchased a B&W 6.1 system which included 3 VM1s for the front, 3 LM1s for the rear and a powered B&W sub, all for $200. The system retailed for around $1300. The system sounds amazing. It was very articulate, powerful, and robust connected to Emotiva separates.
I've also put together systems with Klipsch Synergy speakers. Two pairs of Klipsch B2s for front mains and surround and a KV3 center. For a sub I used both a Klipsch SW-8 (small) and SVS SB-2000. The B2s image so well they can fool you into thinking a center is playing when it's not. Every so often I put Kg4s in place of the B2 mains. Very nice sounding.
I also have a Scandyna Minipod/Cinepod system. These were originally made by B&W using Nautilus design features. I paid a little more for these because they were popular longer so didn't discount as much. The Minipods were $100/ea and the Cinepod $150. These surprised me by sounding better tonally overall than the B&W or Klipsch systems. They sounded a little warmer and fuller. Since you're content to keep your current system until next year, look into used. You'll be surprised what you can get.
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Thanks a lot again for your valuable time
Compared to what you had this will blow it into the weeds; and yes I think the RSL Speedwoofer will be fine for you large room.

In my secondary room I use two puny 50watt 8" Yamaha subs for music and 3.2 movies and they definitely will play loud. The RSL sub will be much much better than what I have and my secondary room is larger than your room.

Buy this $899 3.1 system from RSL, (no financial risks if you hate the system as they offer free return shipping).

https://rslspeakers.com/products/cg2...heater-system/

Buy this pair of Polks at Best Buy for $100 for the rears and you'll be good to go.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/polk-au...?skuId=8828012

Sadly your existing speakers seem to use proprietary cables which preclude the use of any of them for rear surround use.

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Hi all,
I am planning to spend a max of $1000 for Speakers - 2 Front, 1 center, 2 Rear & 1 Subwoofer.
Is it possible to get all these under $1000? If so, can you please recommend me the models?
BTW, mostly I will end up with a Receiver Yamaha RXV-585

Of course due to budget constraints, if I know impossible under $1000, I have no option other than postponing my decision to next year

Room details:
Viewing distance from 120" screen to couch is roughly 17 feet.

This area is in finished basement with 'NO' sound proofing done in dry wall

thanks in advance
It is ridiculously easy to get everything under a $1000 budget in the US. I wish things cost the same in Canada as they do in the US, I would have a much nicer set up if that were the case.

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Same $1000, except they wanted 3.1 System:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...l#post58345496

My post in that Thread, modified into 5.1 Systems:

FYI: All 6-ohm with High-Tech Air Motion Transducer (AMT) Tweeter: Dayton Audio T-652-AIR (2x6.5-in Woofer) Towers for $282/pair, plus matching Dayton Audio C452-AIR MTM Center (2x4.5-in "Woofers") for $36, plus Dayton Audio B-652-AIR (1x5.35-in Woofer) Bookshelf Surrounds for $92/pair, leaving $590 for your choice of Sub-Woofer:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...eeter--300-654

OR: All 6-ohm with High-Tech Air Motion Transducer (AMT) Tweeter: Dayton Audio B-652-AIR (1x5.35-in Woofer) Bookshelfs for $92/pair, plus matching Dayton Audio C452-AIR MTM Center (2x4.5-in "Woofers") for $36, plus another Dayton Audio B-652-AIR (1x5.35-in Woofer) Bookshelf Surrounds for $92/pair, leaving $780 for your choice of Sub-Woofer:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...-pair--300-651
https://www.parts-express.com/restoc...am--88-300-651 [Open Box Special]
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...eeter--300-454

Info re AMT Tweeter, an evolutionary improvement over Planar Magnetic and Ribbon Tweeters from which it was derived:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Motion_Transformer
https://www.audioholics.com/tower-sp...dio-air-series [Audioholics Review of D-A AMT "AIR" Series]
https://www.cnet.com/reviews/dayton-...652-air-review [CNET Review of D-A T652-AIR Tower]
https://www.stereophile.com/content/...eaker-b652-air [Stereophile Review of D-A B651-AIR Bookshelf]
http://noaudiophile.com/Dayton_B652_Air [Review & Mod to D-A B652-AIR Bookshelf]

There are more than a few GOOD Sub-Woofers (i.e. 12+ inch and 300+ RMS Watts) that fit your price range for one S-W...and possibly TWO S-W's to fill in Nulls in Room Response and 3-dB higher Sound Levels:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christe.../#5d1124a1ec29
https://www.themasterswitch.com/best...est-subwoofers
https://www.lifewire.com/best-home-s...to-buy-4066815

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