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Best bookshelf under $1500 for movies

Hello guys, i need help upgrading my system, i currently own 4 yamaha ns333/ yamaha ns-c444 centre/and yamaha sw700 sub.
Currently looking to upgrade my 3 front speakers , i keep hearing great things about KEF LS50.
I m more interested in movie watching than music listenning so speakers has ro be great for movies, what suggestions do u have if i have a budget around $2500 for all 3 front speakers, whats the best i can get for movie watching and videogames.

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If you have the space these PowerSoundAudio's excel at HT and gaming. Very efficient speakers so easy to drive with just about any AVR.

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If you're able, I would recommend splitting that budget between a front stage and a better sub. Something like a Chane front 3 and a Hsu VTF2 would fit into, or very near to, that amount and there are plenty of other otions as well like Emotiva, Elac, etc.
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If you're able, I would recommend splitting that budget between a front stage and a better sub. Something like a Chane front 3 and a Hsu VTF2 would fit into, or very near to, that amount and there are plenty of other otions as well like Emotiva, Elac, etc.
Good suggestion
Sub + New Fronts will bring new dynamic more than likely
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Grab some Polk LSIM 703 and a 704 center, you're not going to beat them for movies at their current prices. With the money saved, I would buy a couple of decent subs.
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a bunch of good advice , i think that the polk 703+704 and 2 subs will flat get it done .. and a mid level tower (like emotiva t2 +a sub) would be a secondary choice...

YAMAHA TSR 5790.. front l/r emotiva b1's and /or kef q100's ..BIC v1220.....Emotiva basx10.... ascend cbm 170 center.. polk t15 rears..samsung 55" j620d
bedroom .. YAMAHA r-xv 383... front l/r.. wharfedale 10.1s... ascend cbm 170 center ... Emotiva basx8... samsung ku6300 50 in
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Revel M16 .... buy 3 each and use 1 as a center channel .... they will show Yamaha the door
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Thanks for all the great advice.

I m able to strech my budget to get a better sub, i just didnt realise mine isnt all that good, where i live we dont have a lot of options for HT audio so sadly i have to order everything overseas.
We have a Clair Brothers dealer here and went and checked their Cx8 and Cx5 speakers but not sure those are good for movies and games.
Thanks a lot for helping me guys, i keep having this nagging feeling that my speakers are just ok and i m missing out a lot by not having an amazing set. So looking to upgrade to something noticebaly better.
Now since i m thinking of changing the SUB, i will pay up to $1000 for a good one, what is the best that this budget would get me.
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Revel M16 .... buy 3 each and use 1 as a center channel .... they will show Yamaha the door
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Mine are awesome fronts, EQd flat for music and with a touch of upper-mids and treble dialed in for movies.
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If you're able, I would recommend splitting that budget between a front stage and a better sub. Something like a Chane front 3 and a Hsu VTF2 would fit into, or very near to, that amount and there are plenty of other otions as well like Emotiva, Elac, etc.

This right here. Chane A2.4 LCR and HSU, or maybe the Rythmik F/L VX12. Also might see if you can get a deal on the A5.4 for L/R since the A5.5's are coming out soon, if you have room for towers.
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In Lebanon, you might do better with more geographically local sub manufacturers, such as XTZ or BK Electronics, if you can source them there. SVS is everywhere, but you pay for the privilege in any non-US purchase. If you go US for sourcing, you can't go wrong with Rythmik, HSU, or PSA. How big is the room (including all adjacent open areas) in cubic feet?

As far as speakers, how far away do you sit? What are you using to power them? Restrictions on size or placement? How about WAF, do they have to be pretty? What brands are available to you locally, if any?

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In Lebanon, you might do better with more local subs, such as the XTC or BT Electric, if you can source them there. SVS is everywhere, but you pay for the privilege in any non-US purchase. If you go US for sourcing, you can't go wrong with Rythmik, HSU, or PSA.

As far as speakers, how far away do you sit? What are you using to power them? Restrictions on size or placement? How about WAF, do they have to be pretty? What brands are available to you locally, if any?
I sit almost 13 feet away from the front speakers, my room is 14.5feet x 11.5feet, i use Yamaha Avantage rx2050 AV receiver with 2 pre-amps Norm 4.4 and connected to a miniDSP-88BM with dirac live.
I have no problem with WAF so doesnt have to be pretty, i m placing my speakers under a projector screen that is filling the whole wall, but i m a little flexible with placement, its my bedroom so of course furniture will be there.
Brands that i know of that are available are B&W , Clair Brothers, yamaha, bose might find more if i look around, but have no problem ordering overseas if i have a clue what will be a very big upgrade over what i have.

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Where did that "speakers great for movies/speakers good for music" division came from?
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At 14x11, you are probably right to go with a sealed design. A ported sub will get you more oomph in the lower frequencies, but in that small room (it's not open to any other spaces, right?) you may get boominess. Look at the Rythmik L12, plenty of output at 20Hz (without equalization), which would be the perfect sub for your situation, IMO.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/L12.html

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I have a much bigger space than you but I just bought Chane 1.5x2 and Chane 2.4 x1 for my LCR and a Hsu VT3-Mk5 for a sub for a 3.1 system that will be used for TV and movies. I'll be posting my impressions as soon as I get it all set up. But my total price was about $1500 for all three speakers and sub.

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... Now since i m thinking of changing the SUB, i will pay up to $1000 for a good one, what is the best that this budget would get me.
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Two subs are better than one. Helps with getting uniform bass in the entire room without suck outs. You could start with a hsu research vtf-3 mk5 ($539 plus shipping) and add another later if needed. You may not depending on your room.
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Hello guys, i need help upgrading my system, i currently own 4 yamaha ns333/ yamaha ns-c444 centre/and yamaha sw700 sub.
Currently looking to upgrade my 3 front speakers , i keep hearing great things about KEF LS50.
I m more interested in movie watching than music listenning so speakers has ro be great for movies, what suggestions do u have if i have a budget around $2500 for all 3 front speakers, whats the best i can get for movie watching and videogames.

Thank you
I completely overlooked that you're in Lebanon. What brands/makers do you have readily available to you within your budget range?
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Hello guys, i need help upgrading my system, i currently own 4 yamaha ns333/ yamaha ns-c444 centre/and yamaha sw700 sub.
Currently looking to upgrade my 3 front speakers , i keep hearing great things about KEF LS50.
I m more interested in movie watching than music listenning so speakers has ro be great for movies, what suggestions do u have if i have a budget around $2500 for all 3 front speakers, whats the best i can get for movie watching and videogames.

Thank you
I completely overlooked that you're in Lebanon. What brands/makers do you have readily available to you within your budget range?
Honestly i dont have a problem shipping them from the states, that is what i do with all my equipememts, my issue is i cant hear them nor return them due to shipping cost so i have to grt the best i can. With that said we do have Clair brothers CX8 and CX5 but i couldnt find anything online about how good they are, although that company supposed to be one of the best in the audio business.

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At 14x11, you are probably right to go with a sealed design. A ported sub will get you more oomph in the lower frequencies, but in that small room (it's not open to any other spaces, right?) you may get boominess. Look at the Rythmik L12, plenty of output at 20Hz (without equalization), which would be the perfect sub for your situation, IMO.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/L12.html
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Honestly i dont have a problem shipping them from the states, that is what i do with all my equipememts, my issue is i cant hear them nor return them due to shipping cost so i have to grt the best i can.
13 foot listening distance, no WAF needs, shipping from US plus import/customs duties---if you want a completely safe choice I'd get 3 x Ascend 340SE.

These are dual woofer bookshelves so they will be taller than most bookshelves but the extra woofer gives you a lot more dynamics and they are very easy to drive with any receiver, and they are very neutral so they'd be a very safe choice.

For HT there is really no need to spend a penny more than that, in my opinion...in fact you might be perfectly happy with the single woofer version CBM-170SE for the L/R with the 340SE as the center.

KEF LS50 would be ridiculous overkill for this usage scenario.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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Honestly i dont have a problem shipping them from the states, that is what i do with all my equipememts, my issue is i cant hear them nor return them due to shipping cost so i have to grt the best i can.
13 foot listening distance, no WAF needs, shipping from US plus import/customs duties---if you want a completely safe choice I'd get 3 x Ascend 340SE.

These are dual woofer bookshelves so they will be taller than most bookshelves but the extra woofer gives you a lot more dynamics and they are very easy to drive with any receiver, and they are very neutral so they'd be a very safe choice.

For HT there is really no need to spend a penny more than that, in my opinion...in fact you might be perfectly happy with the single woofer version CBM-170SE for the L/R with the 340SE as the center.

KEF LS50 would be ridiculous overkill for this usage scenario.
Thank you a lot, so u think the LS50's are overkill for movies? Sorry i m no expert with audio speakers , would u think the Ascend 340SE is a very noticeable upgrade for my scenario , i really want to buy the absolute best i can in my price range.
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Thank you a lot, so u think the LS50's are overkill for movies? Sorry i m no expert with audio speakers , would u think the Ascend 340SE is a very noticeable upgrade for my scenario , i really want to buy the absolute best i can in my price range.
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Yes, the LS50 are nice for music listening, specifically midrange dominant stuff like jazz, though they do need a subwoofer. They have a nice sort of panache with voices, especially female voices, and manage to be super detailed while not irritatingly "bright"---but all these subtle nuances would be completely wasted/imperceptible when you're watching movies.

The Ascend 340SE might be overkill for your small room but you do sit 13 ft away so maybe better to be safe than sorry. You could probably do 3 x 170SE if you wanted to and be fine, in fact. Either way, subwoofers outside of the US tend to cost an arm and a leg so I'd make sure you have enough in your budget to get a decent one---if you can get a Monolith 10" or Hsu VTF-2 from the US that would be great though shipping those big heavy boxes will cost dearly.

Chane A2.4 and/or A1.5 are also worth considering.

I'd confidently buy either of them even if I had never heard them before. The Ascends do have 6.5" woofers vs 5.25" on the Chanes, if that matters to you---however user feedback on both companies's speakers has always been uniformly glowing.

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Thank you a lot, so u think the LS50's are overkill for movies? Sorry i m no expert with audio speakers , would u think the Ascend 340SE is a very noticeable upgrade for my scenario , i really want to buy the absolute best i can in my price range.
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Yes, the LS50 are nice for music listening, specifically midrange dominant stuff like jazz, though they do need a subwoofer. They have a nice sort of panache with voices, especially female voices, and manage to be super detailed while not irritatingly "bright"---but all these subtle nuances would be completely wasted/imperceptible when you're watching movies.

The Ascend 340SE might be overkill for your small room but you do sit 13 ft away so maybe better to be safe than sorry. You could probably do 3 x 170SE if you wanted to and be fine, in fact. Either way, subwoofers outside of the US tend to cost an arm and a leg so I'd make sure you have enough in your budget to get a decent one---if you can get a Monolith 10" or Hsu VTF-2 from the US that would be great though shipping those big heavy boxes will cost dearly.

Chane A2.4 and/or A1.5 are also worth considering.

I'd confidently buy either of them even if I had never heard them before. The Ascends do have 6.5" woofers vs 5.25" on the Chanes, if that matters to you---however user feedback on both companies's speakers has always been uniformly glowing.
You are absolutely right since i always feel that from my listening position the speakers i have now are too far and i have to be closer to hear more details.
I think i narrowed it down to 3 Ascends 340SE or 2 PSA mt110 + 1 PSA m210c.
Which one do u think would be better ?

Edit: i see the ascend set is almost half the price of the PSA set ,that is huge difference so might lean towards the ascend more now.

Also is the yamaha sw700 sub that i have really that bad ?

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Grab some Polk LSIM 703 and a 704 center, you're not going to beat them for movies at their current prices. With the money saved, I would buy a couple of decent subs.
Would a 706c match the 703 bookshelves better compared to 704c? I'm just curious since I have 703s lying around.
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Would a 706c match the 703 bookshelves better compared to 704c? I'm just curious since I have 703s lying around.
The whole LSIM series has the identical tweeter/midwoofer array so they'll all match. The only difference are the woofer sizes, if you think you need the larger woofers and/or have the room for the 706 it is probably technically better but with subs I can't imagine many people approaching the limits of the 704c. I think 2 5.25" woofers will more than match a single 6.5" though so I would say the 704 matches with the 703 pretty well.
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You are absolutely right since i always feel that from my listening position the speakers i have now are too far and i have to be closer to hear more details.
I think i narrowed it down to 3 Ascends 340SE or 2 PSA mt110 + 1 PSA m210c.
Which one do u think would be better ?

Edit: i see the ascend set is almost half the price of the PSA set ,that is huge difference so might lean towards the ascend more now.

Also is the yamaha sw700 sub that i have really that bad ?
Well, you can always see how you like the Ascends with the Yamaha sub. I wasn't able to find any concrete technical detail about it on google, but at 46 pounds for a 12 inch woofer my guess is it would be better at music than movies...but if you're satisfied with it then why not, keep it. I have no idea how much it would cost to ship a 70lb sub from the US to Lebanon plus customs.

The PSA would also be overkill---they're designed for super loud listening esp. in big rooms. You'll find the Ascends more than ample.

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The whole LSIM series has the identical tweeter/midwoofer array so they'll all match. The only difference are the woofer sizes, if you think you need the larger woofers and/or have the room for the 706 it is probably technically better but with subs I can't imagine many people approaching the limits of the 704c. I think 2 5.25" woofers will more than match a single 6.5" though so I would say the 704 matches with the 703 pretty well.
Thanks, I was told the 706c is voiced darker than the 703 so I didn't pull the trigger when it was sold for 300+ a pop. Besides I don't need another spare center lol. I just keep them for spare parts like my idle Dennis' BMR center. Probably a bad idea to mention it, as you are not a fan of Raal tweets :-)
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You are absolutely right since i always feel that from my listening position the speakers i have now are too far and i have to be closer to hear more details.
I think i narrowed it down to 3 Ascends 340SE or 2 PSA mt110 + 1 PSA m210c.
Which one do u think would be better ?

Edit: i see the ascend set is almost half the price of the PSA set ,that is huge difference so might lean towards the ascend more now.

Also is the yamaha sw700 sub that i have really that bad ?
Well, you can always see how you like the Ascends with the Yamaha sub. I wasn't able to find any concrete technical detail about it on google, but at 46 pounds for a 12 inch woofer my guess is it would be better at music than movies...but if you're satisfied with it then why not, keep it. I have no idea how much it would cost to ship a 70lb sub from the US to Lebanon plus customs.

The PSA would also be overkill---they're designed for super loud listening esp. in big rooms. You'll find the Ascends more than ample.
70lb would cost me $530 shipping, and probably another $200 customs lol.

So i m guessing ill start with the speakers and if i can find localy a good SUB ill go for it.
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70lb would cost me $530 shipping, and probably another $200 customs lol.

So i m guessing ill start with the speakers and if i can find localy a good SUB ill go for it.
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