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Smallest 2.x speakers with the biggest sound

Hey everyone,

What are some of the smallest 2.x speakers with the biggest sound?

Cheers!
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So any small speaker from Bose will have some of the best soundstage? :O
Any particular model you would recommend? Like the 2.1 Companion 50?
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What are some of the smallest 2.x speakers with the biggest sound?

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Like, physically smallest? How small do you want them?
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silverline minuet or rsl cg3 series.
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Like, physically smallest? How small do you want them?
Max 25 cm height they need to fit under my monitors. I don't mind passive or active as long as give me the most soundstage with whatever setup at whatever budget.

I know limiting speakers by height is "meh" but it's my only option to get good positioning.
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silverline minuet or rsl cg3 series.
Wow! Both are spot on under 25cm! It's impressive how I couldn't find anything like that on my own. Google just gave me bookshelve speakers at 30cm+.

Both seem awesome, specially the minuet! ^^

Any amp you would recommend with the Silverline Minuet? I understand nothing of speakers I'm a complete noob!

Thanks!
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Max 25 cm height they need to fit under my monitors. I don't mind passive or active as long as give me the most soundstage with whatever setup at whatever budget.

I know limiting speakers by height is "meh" but it's my only option to get good positioning.
Then I agree with the other poster, the RSL CG3s are absolutely perfect for these. I love mine, and the sound fantastic with proper amplification and sound way bigger than their size.

24.13 cm tall BTW

https://rslspeakers.com/products/cg3-bookshelf-speaker/
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JBL 705p (or i) is 268 x 151 x 274 cm. Which is quite small.

It was measured in sound and recording magazine and they had impressive output for 2 way 5 incher.

When I looked for speakers (I ended up with 708i) I was looking for a few qualities in the speaker which would suite "small appartment room" environment well and I think 7 series is really good in that regard. I am not even sure there is anything like this on the market right now.

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Wow! Both are spot on under 25cm! It's impressive how I couldn't find anything like that on my own. Google just gave me bookshelve speakers at 30cm+.

Both seem awesome, specially the minuet! ^^

Any amp you would recommend with the Silverline Minuet? I understand nothing of speakers I'm a complete noob!

Thanks!
Minimum would be anything 50w per channel, but it is always nice to have the headroom of something a little more powerful closer to the 100w range.
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Minimum would be anything 50w per channel, but it is always nice to have the headroom of something a little more powerful closer to the 100w range.
It seems though that Silverline audio speakers are not available in Europe
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Klipsch R-14Ms might work. They're under 25cm in height.

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Im impressed with audioengine....I have the 6in tall a2+ but I use a sub also.

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Wow! Both are spot on under 25cm! It's impressive how I couldn't find anything like that on my own. Google just gave me bookshelve speakers at 30cm+.

Both seem awesome, specially the minuet! ^^

Any amp you would recommend with the Silverline Minuet? I understand nothing of speakers I'm a complete noob!

Thanks!
You might also want to consider two center channel speakers with raised tweeters assuming you have the width.

The Q Acoustic Concept center is available in Europe, (British Company that works with a German engineering team).
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Klipsch R-14Ms might work. They're under 25cm in height.
They seem pretty good. They go on the list!

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Im impressed with audioengine....I have the 6in tall a2+ but I use a sub also.
The height on those is awesome because then they could actually be just beneath my screens. How would those sound comparing to R-14Ms?

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You might also want to consider two center channel speakers with raised tweeters assuming you have the width.

The Q Acoustic Concept center is available in Europe, (British Company that works with a German engineering team).
Wouldn't something like that feel like all the audio is coming from "in front of me"? I am used to a Logitech X-530 system which sound fine... except when putting the sound low for ambient music... or high volume.

Thank you all for all the replies! Greatly appreciated!
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excuse my ocd sloppiness, but in my setup the center image and depth actually occur behind the screen somehow. I like em alot for my use.
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The Boenicke W5. Small, big sound, built in Europe, a tad pricey.

https://hifipig.com/boenicke-w5-se-loudspeakers/
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excuse my ocd sloppiness, but in my setup the center image and depth actually occur behind the screen somehow. I like em alot for my use.
You are forgiveth. And thank you for sharing in fact... you might have greatly help me to solv my problem by sharing your setup.

I wanted to upgrade my Logitech X-530 to something that would sound better and my challenge was "what are good small speakers and how to place them" because of a tripple screen setup... well I had not considered to put the speakers in front of the screens :O

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The Boenicke W5. Small, big sound, built in Europe, a tad pricey.
https://hifipig.com/boenicke-w5-se-loudspeakers/
They are beautiful. But they are a bit too big... in price :P I had no idea such small speakers could cost so much. Thanks for sharing though!
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NHT Superzero 2.1 is under 23cm in height. Not sure of their availability in Europe though

https://www.nhthifi.com/products/106...-monitor#specs
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NHT Superzero 2.1 is under 23cm in height. Not sure of their availability in Europe though

https://www.nhthifi.com/products/106...-monitor#specs
nht c1 as well..

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Yes, the C1 would be a good choice also, bigger sound than the SuperZero. Amazon has great pricing on them too.. in USA and UK
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Hey everyone,

Thank you for all the replies. After a few hours of research and looking into what other people have attempted I've come to realize there is no pretty solution.

The only more approachable choice is the A2+ in front of the computer screens but even there they will be cluttering in probably to close to my face.

I wanted to maintain as much as possible the surround sound I currently get with the crappy Logitech X-530, which is not even really surround as I have the BL, FL, Center and FR speakers all in front of me, the BL and Center at desk level, the FL and FR mounted on the wall, and the BR is actually on the wall to my right about 40 cm away. I use my soundcard's 7.1 virtual shifter to adjust volume distribution so I get a more "central feel". I like to feel "immersed" in the sound of whatever I am listening to rather than "facing" it. So my setup is in a corner and here's all I've found (for future people that may wonder into this thread):

Here are all the "meh" options:

1. Floor Stands - PROs: no desk clutter, no wall holes, easy to position. CONs: with a tripple monitor setup the angle becomes to wide; requires space on both sides of the desk.
2. Wall Mounts - PROs: no desk clutter. CONs: with an adjustable standing desk you stop gettting good sound when you change the desk height.
3. Speakers Behind the screens - CONs. Really. Just CONs.
4. Small seakers beneath or in front of the screens - PROs: closest to the recommended triangle. CONs: desk clutter, too close to face, probably not enough soundstage
5. Drop to 2 screens - PROs: that would do it. CONs: can't. I use three screens for work.
6. Soundbar + Sub - PROs: at this point I don't seem to have much choice. CONs: you tell me.

Or... horizontal speakers? Could that be done? I saw a Youtuber with this and I'm thinking... does that work? I thought standing speakers were designed to be... standing.


So I'm getting to the conclusion that for my requirements any stereo setup is going to suffer too much in terms of position. When I said 25 cm I think I was being optimistic... it's more like 20cm and maybe still stretching.

So having that said... any thoughts on surround soundbars for PC as well as room acoustics?

Let me know what you think, and again I really appreciate all the feedback and suggestions it has helped me and hopefully will help others.

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If you're wanting that immersive feel, you won't get it with only two speakers in front of you. Why not get 5 good quality small speakers with a small sub and do true 5.1 multi channel sound.

These would fit, have good reviews, are flexible in mounting options and are available in Europe...

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_091DFB...lax-Black.html

Or the whole 5.1 package if you want to stay with the same brand...

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_091DF5...5-1-Black.html
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Or... horizontal speakers? Could that be done?
It has been done, it can be done and as long as they have raised tweeters they retain the same good horizontal dispersion without lobing that "normal" speakers do.

Looking at your photo it is is the obvious solution.

Another option but, oddly, it seems hard to find the Focal Domes individually unlike the more expensive Focal Dome Flax.

https://www.amazon.de/Focal-Dôme-5-1...+%28schwarz%29

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Call me crazy but I am going to launch myself into a DIY project, as I've been inspired by this

I'm thinking of creating diy panel speakers and place them around the walls in the living room and basically try different materials and positions until I am satisfied. Maybe I will never be satisfied... but this sounds like some fun tinkering. I just have the feeling that what is out there just doesn't really fit my current space for what I want.

I know I could of course try to rethink the position of my desktop setup but I want instead to see if I can bend the sound to fit my needs so to speak.

I thank you all so much for all your input! It's so awesome to have the opportunity to dive into an enthuasiastic community collective knowledge and become better informed about how things work and what offers are out there. So big big thanks
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Biggest sound as in output wise or dispersion/soundstage wise?
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Call me crazy but I am going to launch myself into a DIY project, as I've been inspired by this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKIye4RZ-5k

I'm thinking of creating diy panel speakers and place them around the walls in the living room and basically try different materials and positions until I am satisfied. Maybe I will never be satisfied... but this sounds like some fun tinkering. I just have the feeling that what is out there just doesn't really fit my current space for what I want.

I know I could of course try to rethink the position of my desktop setup but I want instead to see if I can bend the sound to fit my needs so to speak.

I thank you all so much for all your input! It's so awesome to have the opportunity to dive into an enthuasiastic community collective knowledge and become better informed about how things work and what offers are out there. So big big thanks
this sounds like a waste of time, and I know a lot about time wasting.

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this sounds like a waste of time, and I know a lot about time wasting.
Why so?
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Energy RC-Mini speakers are a little under 17 cm tall. You can usually find used one's in good condition for cheap (~$150 or less). I've never heard of or witnessed a smaller speaker with bigger sound. They cross-over well around 100-120Hz. They are well-built, heavy for the size, and have a nice wood veneer.

Don't buy Bose. Bose doesn't excel at anything except ripping off ignorant consumers with their predatory advertising. Friends don't let friends buy Bose. And I probably wouldn't waste my time on random DYI projects on YouTube - you can, of course, but it's not going to be the best solution unless you're putting together some pre-assembled speaker kits. Even then I'd be surprised if you could assemble one that is competitive in terms of size.
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How about these:
http://noaudiophile.com/IK_Multimedia_iLoudMM/

These seem pretty readily available as well, and powered so no worry about amplification.
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