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Question Budget H/T Speaker Mismatch

Hello y'all,

I'm planning to pick up a set of the Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers, but may not end up keeping all of them due to size and placement constraints. I know it is recommended to match your LCR, so ideally I would run the FS52s and C22 up front, but that might not be feasible in my home.

Unfortunately, the Pioneer C22 is way too large for my install.
What I'm wondering is if I keep the B22 for front L/R, what would be a good center channel to match?
I'm limited to 6-3/8" height, so I have a few budget options in mind.

Dayton Audio MK442 (this would allow me to use the MK402 as L/R if the Pioneer aren't a good match but I'm worried those may be a downgrade) $50
Micca MB42X-C (Similar to the Dayton above, could use the MB42X as L/R, but would I be better off keeping the B22?) $70
Sony Core (cannot use the Sony Core Bookshelves, they're too tall to fit in the cabinet, so I'm worried just having the Sony center might be different sound) Currently $120, so I'd wait for the price to drop like it did a few weeks ago

Considered the Dayton C452 but seems a bit rinky-dink compared to the Mk442. I could go super-budget and run B652-C452-B452, but I'd rather go a notch above that entry-level.
Polk T30 too tall to fit

Other option: just run 4x Pioneer B22 as a 4.1 setup??? Never tried this arrangement

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Down the line I plan to run the Dayton Audio B452 (maybe the AIR with AMT tweeter) as surrounds and the Monoprice SSW-8 to complete the minimal budget 5.1 setup. Use mostly TV/Movies with some music, but nothing like critical listening. I'm limited by budget and of these setups will be an upgrade from my current Vizio soundbar setup, so I'm not striving for perfection here.

Any thoughts/experience greatly appreciated..
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You didn't mention your top end budget. It you can swing a bit more the RSL line would fit your specs really nicely and sound great. Even just go with 3.1 for now and get surrounds later.

2 CG3's for L/R and 1 CG23 for the center.

https://rslspeakers.com/products/cg3-bookshelf-speaker
https://rslspeakers.com/products/new...center-channel

You could use the MK402's as surrounds and have a nice system.

What about subs? With any of the setups they are lacking low end and a sub would be needed.

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If budget is tight -- then go with the Dayton MK402X (the latest version) and the MK442 center
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Hello y'all,

I'm planning to pick up a set of the Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers, but may not end up keeping all of them due to size and placement constraints. I know it is recommended to match your LCR, so ideally I would run the FS52s and C22 up front, but that might not be feasible in my home.

Unfortunately, the Pioneer C22 is way too large for my install.
What I'm wondering is if I keep the B22 for front L/R, what would be a good center channel to match?
I'm limited to 6-3/8" height, so I have a few budget options in mind.

Dayton Audio MK442 (this would allow me to use the MK402 as L/R if the Pioneer aren't a good match but I'm worried those may be a downgrade) $50
Micca MB42X-C (Similar to the Dayton above, could use the MB42X as L/R, but would I be better off keeping the B22?) $70
Sony Core (cannot use the Sony Core Bookshelves, they're too tall to fit in the cabinet, so I'm worried just having the Sony center might be different sound) Currently $120, so I'd wait for the price to drop like it did a few weeks ago

Considered the Dayton C452 but seems a bit rinky-dink compared to the Mk442. I could go super-budget and run B652-C452-B452, but I'd rather go a notch above that entry-level.
Polk T30 too tall to fit

Other option: just run 4x Pioneer B22 as a 4.1 setup??? Never tried this arrangement

Other info:
Down the line I plan to run the Dayton Audio B452 (maybe the AIR with AMT tweeter) as surrounds and the Monoprice SSW-8 to complete the minimal budget 5.1 setup. Use mostly TV/Movies with some music, but nothing like critical listening. I'm limited by budget and of these setups will be an upgrade from my current Vizio soundbar setup, so I'm not striving for perfection here.

Any thoughts/experience greatly appreciated..
Spend more on a pair of quality bookshelf speakers and go fanthom center which will likely provide better dialogue clarity than the C22.

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You didn't mention your top end budget. It you can swing a bit more the RSL line would fit your specs really nicely and sound great. Even just go with 3.1 for now and get surrounds later.

2 CG3's for L/R and 1 CG23 for the center.

https://rslspeakers.com/products/cg3-bookshelf-speaker
https://rslspeakers.com/products/new...center-channel

You could use the MK402's as surrounds and have a nice system.

What about subs? With any of the setups they are lacking low end and a sub would be needed.
Good point - budget is in the neighborhood of $350. That said, these RSL do look nice and I've heard good things about them, but $470 for 3 speakers is too much. I'm going to see what I'll keep from the Pioneer set and sell the rest to buy replacements.

For sub I'm looking to replace the Pioneer one with a slim Monoprice 8" unit, so it will fit under the media cabinet. I live in an old apartment building with thin floors so I don't need/want anything to shake the walls or annoy the neighbors.
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A new very good speaker for cheap has appeared that some here have already and is winning praise. 2 of these and the RSL center might be something to think about.

I have the ones in black and just a test listen yesterday shows they are very good for the price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pack-6-5-...oAAOSwh0ldcRTR

https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5-Bookshe...53.m2749.l2649
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A new very good speaker for cheap has appeared that some here have already and is winning praise. 2 of these and the RSL center might be something to think about.

I have the ones in black and just a test listen yesterday shows they are very good for the price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pack-6-5-...oAAOSwh0ldcRTR

https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5-Bookshe...53.m2749.l2649
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Dang! Those look nice, and the cherry is close to the color of my cabinet, but they're just a smidge too tall...
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Dang! Those look nice, and the cherry is close to the color of my cabinet, but they're just a smidge too tall...
The Boston A25 would be a nice option -- buy one each and get the second one for 1/2 off. The size would fit.
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...ck-each/1.html

The Boston center is 6.32 inches high --- and has a raised tweeter which is good
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...r-black/1.html

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Check out the Jamo studio series, available at Amazon

2 x S 803 Bookshelf Speakers (front ported)
2 x S 801 Speakers for Surround Sound
1 x S 81 CEN Center Channel Speaker

269... leaves enough room in the budget for a sub and available in different finishes

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I appreciate all the tips, been very helpful.

I got the speakers home last night and haven't installed them yet, but I seem to be in luck.. The receiver I bought (used Yamaha RX-V575) came without the feet, so it's shorter than specs and I was able to put the Pioneer C22 above it inside my cabinet! I threw some felt pads underneath it for scratch protection and airflow.

I'm gonna try running the B22 and C22 as LCR and see how I like it, but I plan to get rid of the extra B22 because they're enormous looking as surrounds, and I'd rather have something with sealed cabinets since they're in a bookcase and don't have a lot of space behind them.

Sidebar: these Andrew Jones speakers are visually massive. I had familiarized myself with the measurements, but still had a double take when I saw them in person! Let's see if they sound as big as they look.
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Check out the Jamo studio series, available at Amazon

2 x S 803 Bookshelf Speakers (front ported)
2 x S 801 Speakers for Surround Sound
1 x S 81 CEN Center Channel Speaker

269... leaves enough room in the budget for a sub and available in different finishes
These look very sleek and modern, I will have to keep them in mind for the future.. The Pioneer I'm trying to hide away but these might be nice enough to leave out. I like that they have a sleek add-on for Atmos modules, too.
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