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Is this a worth center upgrade?

is moving from klipsch rp-500C to rp-504C a worth center upgrade ?
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is moving from klipsch rp-500C to rp-504C a worth center upgrade ?
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is moving from klipsch rp-500C to rp-504C a worth center upgrade ?
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No.

What is it about the 500C that you're not happy with?

It's entirely possible that you'd be better off going with a center speaker from a different brand altogether, which might cost less but actually perform better...if you're willing to disregard all the "timbre matching" BS.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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No.

What is it about the 500C that you're not happy with?

It's entirely possible that you'd be better off going with a center speaker from a different brand altogether, which might cost less but actually perform better...if you're willing to disregard all the "timbre matching" BS.
i am happy with 500c but i thought 504c would make me happier

i heard 504c will sound fuller and clearer

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i am happy with 500c but i thought 504c would make me happier

i heard 504c will sound fuller and clearer
Unlikely unless it's using a different tweeter which it isn't. The extra 2 woofers by Klipsch's own (often dubious) specs actually provide only 1db higher sensitivity and only 2Hz lower mid-bass extension.
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i am happy with 500c but i thought 504c would make me happier

i heard 504c will sound fuller and clearer
I don't know where you heard that? They'll pretty much perform about the same. Spending the money on a 2nd sub (if you don't already) would be far more beneficial.

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Unlikely unless it's using a different tweeter which it isn't. The extra 2 woofers by Klipsch's own (often dubious) specs actually provide only 1db higher sensitivity and only 2Hz lower mid-bass extension.
They are consistently dubious by about 6 db, so the relative numbers are reliable.
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i am happy with 500c but i thought 504c would make me happier

i heard 504c will sound fuller and clearer
you might want to think about not upgrading.. trying to fix "good" often gets frustrating and expensive..
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Unlikely unless it's using a different tweeter which it isn't. The extra 2 woofers by Klipsch's own (often dubious) specs actually provide only 1db higher sensitivity and only 2Hz lower mid-bass extension.


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I don't know where you heard that? They'll pretty much perform about the same. Spending the money on a 2nd sub (if you don't already) would be far more beneficial.





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The 504C is known as a "2.5-way speaker", in that the inside mid-woofers play different frequencies than the outside mid-woofers. Since they have different crossovers, this helps to diminish the "comb-filtering" - a Venetian blind effect where there are drop-outs the further you move off-axis - the 504C will provide a wider listening window ie: it will cover the full length of a room instead of the person in the middle. That, plus the added cost of more speaker drivers, a larger cabinet for the speaker (including more internal bracing, a more complex crossover board, etc) will make the cost higher.

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I have RP-280FA fronts, RP-150M surrounds, and RP-500C center. I always thought the RP-500C gets a little drowned out by the front, so I replaced it with the 600C. The 600C was actually worse than the 500C, so I returned it to my local frys electronics store and got the RP-504C.
I'm now very happy with my HT system. The 504C is louder (has more ooomph) and sounds better than both speakers mentioned earlier even when set to Large on my Yamaha receiver.
If you already have the 500C and are thinking of upgrading to 600C, don't do it, you will be disappointed. Skip the 600C and go for the 504C, otherwise, stick with 500C.
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Huh, didn't realize it's a 2.5 way. Maybe it would be worth it then. I'd buy it from someplace with a good return policy though, just in case.

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is moving from klipsch rp-500C to rp-504C a worth center upgrade ?
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What would really be good is if you could demo both at the same time or in home as someone has mentioned about a return policy if you don't think it was worth the upgrade.

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While I haven't A/B 504c verses the 500&600c, I can say the 504c is just excellent. I have paired with the 8000f and I am always impressed with movies and music. Even more so lately when I was finally brave enough to run without the grills. Kind of crazy how much more air and better sound field you get without the grills. It's like having new speakers all over again. Lol.
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